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15 Apr 20
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1. They are lead by someone who was accused of failing to record cholera epidemics in his home country.
2. They did not advise against stopping planes out of China.
3. Late calling it a pandemic.
4. Late saying it could go human to human.
5. Their second largest funder (10%) is a private foundation.
6. Taiwan not allowed in.
Anyone oppose Trump's move and, if so, why?
2. They did not advise against stopping planes out of China.
3. Late calling it a pandemic.
4. Late saying it could go human to human.
5. Their second largest funder (10%) is a private foundation.
6. Taiwan not allowed in.
Anyone oppose Trump's move and, if so, why?
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And how does neutering the WHO at the height of a pandemic help getting the world back to normal?
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I doubt they would pull funds immediately dave?
If I paid a lot of money for something which nearly burned my house down I would not buy it again. |
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he has suspending funding, if that means something other than suspending funding, I am happy to be corrected.
I repeat, how does it help getting back to normal? |
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When you see who pays in per head of population
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Trump reckons there is a chink in the W.H.O'S armour. He may well be proved correct.
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Sorry, I don't do news lately, I wasn't aware. Still, if they have conspired with the Chinese and damaged the health of the world's populations they are not fit for purpose and need replacing quite quickly.
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Does the WHO save lives? YES!
Will defunding WHO cost Lives? YES! Does WHO need reforming? YES! |
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^^Could you please link to the evidence that "they have conspired with the Chinese and damaged the health of the world's populations"
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and what will he do with the chinese,halt the trade deal ? i think both need looking
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Another example of grievance politics. The lies from China will eventually emerge but the lies from Trump, downplaying the seriousness of the pandemic, the preparedness of the testing, the lack of supply of PPE and ventilators and the lack of a national response plan are staggering in comparison.
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I don't have any dave. I'm tempted to believe that the country who bankroll the corrupt outfit do have some, and we will eventually see what occurred when the WHO invstigated Wuhan.
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I don't know if the WHO are to blame for the pandemic or whether they colluded with China in any way. What I do know is that this is an election year in the USA, Trump is under huge pressure as he is behind in the polls and he is happy to blame anyone apart from himself for the apparent lack of action when the pandemic was on it's way.
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^^the WHO investigators were being blocked from China when trump tweeted this
China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi! 9:18 PM · Jan 24, 2020 Perhaps you are looking in the wrong place for conspirators. |
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Why do WHO block Taiwan from being a member?
Taiwan were asking questions in late December and WHO was still saying no evidence Covid could go human to human in mid-Jan? If WHO had come out of advised stopping all travel out of China early this could have been contained. Also it is very strange that Gates is involved in their funding. |
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the who dont block taiwan from being members, the members decide who is allowed to join and that means that both the usa and the uk are prepared to go along with china's refusal to let taiwan join.
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Bill Gates
@BillGates · 3h Halting funding for the World Health Organization during a world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds. Their work is slowing the spread of COVID-19 and if that work is stopped no other organization can replace them. The world needs @WHO now more than ever. |
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No sure about their continued praise for China's handling of it.
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The world should fund it then, expecting the US to do so while plssing on their shoes seems unrealistic.
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they have made many c0ck ups and need to be reformed or defunded and something else put in their place but it is just politics from trump, shifting the blame to an organisation whose advice he continues to ignore. the who recommend the standard practice in an epidemic to test, isolate and trace something that south korea, taiwan, hong kong and singapore all did yet something the usa and uk didnt do and continue not to do.
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If he hadn't challenged them there would be no reform. Now there will be investigations, whatever happens in the US elections.
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Surely there would have been investigations anyway? Withdrawing funding at this stage isn't going to help anyone.
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@InsiderTrader • April 15, 2020 9:29 AM BS
I believe that you have to be a member of the UN to be a member of the WHO. Taiwan aren't a member of the UN They said there was no evidence because they had none. "Taiwan were asking questions in late December" - what questions and what was the WHO meant to do? InsiderTrader • April 15, 2020 9:36 AM BST No sure about their continued praise for China's handling of it. Their handling of it internally is infinitely better than trump's and also see my 9.22 post It is becoming clearer day by day that trump's dysfunctional administration is the sole author of his country's misfortune and his desperate attempts to shift the blame equally obvious. |
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Dave you are in danger of reversing the debate here.
Lets not talk about Trump's failures or Boris' failures or Macron's failures. Non of them are the subject of funding cutting. I am interested in is the assertion that WHO messed up fair? |
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trader did the uk government mess up?
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politicspunter. The fact that the African WHO boss installed a murderous dictator as a Goodwill Ambassador tells me all I need to know about this gravy train. Where was the international outrage about that? I was actually unaware of it until recently.
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Well, if it was such a corrupt organisation, why have other countries not withheld funding before now?
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dave, did their infinitely better handling not involve nailing apartment doors closed to keep people in? I gather they also build walls on mountain roads to contain flu ridden villagers now and again. Not sure how this would go down in the West.
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pp, because most of em pay little or bugger all.
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Get rid of NATO and UN too
Anybody in support of any of these organisations should be lobotomised |
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https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/03/25/2003733321
Virus Outbreak: Taiwan warned WHO, China on virus last year Taiwan warned the WHO and China about possible human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus at the end of last year, but the global health body did not make it public, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said yesterday. Department of International Organizations Director-General Bob Chen (陳龍錦) made the remark at a news briefing in Taipei, when asked about statements made by US Department of State spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus. “Dec. 31— that’s the same day Taiwan first tried to warn WHO of human-human transmission. Chinese authorities meanwhile silenced doctors and refused to admit human-human transmission until Jan. 20, with catastrophic consequences,” Ortagus wrote on Twitter yesterday. |
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https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/taiwan-warned-who-ignored-and-covid-19-became-pandemic-120040601496_1.html
The coronavirus, which originated in China, could have been stopped from turning into a pandemic if the World Health Organisation paid heed to Taiwan's early warnings regarding the human to human transmission of the virus. However, the WHO chose to ignore the warnings by Taiwan at China's behest and now the whole world is paying the price of it. Emerging from China's infamous wet market, the virus has so far infected at least 1.216 million people around the world. The global death toll from the deadly virus stands at 65,652. New York-based writer Wilfred Chan wrote for The Nation that despite early warnings from Taiwanese officials, the organization kept the island cut off from its global information networks. Now, it may be the rest of the world that's paying the price. Scientists from Taiwan informed the WHO as early as December 31 about the human to human transmission of the Chinese Virus from Wuhan but not only did WHO suppress this information, it continued peddling the lie that it doesn't spread from human to human, Chan stated in the article. |
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that is bad trader but what difference would it have made to uk government policy if the who has made the correct call? i would suggest absolutely none. on 23/1 the who held a press conference where they said it was transmitting person to person, was more contagious than the flu and far deadlier. on 24/1 following a cobra meeting the medical director of public health england said it was likely to come to the uk. matt hancock said the risk to the uk public remained low. so the day after the who got the right message our secretary of state for health got it wrong.
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^^What did you expect the WHO to do as their inspectors were being blocked from China and trump was tweeting "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency."?
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We won't get fooled again.
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I think if we had had full information from the start it would have helped.
My thoughts are we have learnt a lot more from what happened in Italy than China or WHO over this. The fact that it was Italy ICU stay length numbers rather than China ones from one or two months before that caused a change in government policy tells its own story. |
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flushgordon1 15 Apr 20 09:33
We won't get fooled again.  indeed not. |
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of course we will get fooled again,it just comes down to money,china has a massive economy and countries didnt want to lose the trade and the usa/china trade deal hadnt been signed long,so money was put before the health of the people
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