Much more dangerous to be a bus driver than work in the NHS?

Indeed many if not most bus drivers have been furloughed, so for those still driving the risk is amplified.

Is it more dangerous to deep fry chips or to engage in saturation diving ?

Saturation diving of course

Obviously important to pay attention when cooking anything

Apr 13, 2020 -- 12:36PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:

Saturation diving of course

I agree. However ......

Chip pan fires cause one fifth of all accidental dwelling fires attended by the fire and rescue service in the UK each year. Nearly 20 people are killed or injured every day in accidental fires that start in their kitchen, the most common of these caused by deep fat frying.

Source : https://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/chip-pans/

A summary of the PSA report states: “The analysis shows that there have been relatively few personal injuries associated with saturation diving in the last 25 years.

“And in 2016, there were no reports of incidents involving personal injuries.”

Source : The Petroleum Safety Authority

Sure, but there are a multiple of several million more chips cooked than saturation dives.  I'm working on the basis of one saturation dive to one batch of chips.  Falling down the stairs is the most common accidental form of death I believe, but that is not what the topic is about.

More annual injuries from chip pan fires than from saturation diving.

The largest single factor in the lower number of injuries from saturation diving are the preventative measures that are applied as part of the saturation diving process.

The point I am rather obtusely making is that there are greater preventative measures in place within the NHS than on buses.

Clearly a ward populated with COVID-19 infected patients is a more dangerous environment than a double decker bus containing a random collection of members of the general population.

Apr 13, 2020 -- 12:45PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:

Sure, but there are a multiple of several million more chips cooked than saturation dives.

Plenty of people honouring our brave health workers, who do a tremendous job may I add, and I'm not disputing their job is a lot more stressful.  No one cares about bus drivers though.  It's a question of perception.  If you ask 100 people who is taking the most risks, I reckon 99 would say the NHS staff.  I think the reality though is that bus drivers are.

I'm not disputing the ward is far more dangerous given the same level of protection, but in the actual real world given the actual level of protection.

We are in full agreement in regards to your general point, bus drivers are being subjected to avoidable risks, their employers being far too slow to put even the most basic preventive measures in place.

Employers negligence costs lives ...

Part of the reason I went off on the tangent that I did is down to timing, I have been engaged on another thread on a similar safety topic.
I've used that thread to brush up on my rusty knowledge of health and safety issues.

Its encouraging that a minute % of nhs workers are dying.

Mmm, perhaps you may wish to review the wording of that sentence.

hmm, no. it's fine

Well, I'm certainly not encouraged that NHS workers are dying, regardless of the numbers.

ok

would,nt they have died anyway,
evidence
autopsy
how many bus drivers died last march/april.

no point making any comment on deaths on this forum if you don't have answers to the above

London transport was left running far too long , How many left London carrying the Virus ??

https://www.jmw.co.uk/services-for-you/personal-injury/blog/uks-top-10-most-dangerous-industries-work

Farming is the most dangerous.

3% working population in NHS...roughly 1000 Kungflu deaths working age...30 nhs staff deaths as of yesterday.
Pretty much exactly what you would expect if they worked in the NHS or not.
Staggering really...all you can put it down to is that the staff are obviously very vigilent, well trained and are strictly following procedure. Makes you wonder if they are being infected outside of their workplace when their guard is down slightly.

Probably from the bus drivers on their way home

How many bus drivers taken ill and died soon after in the same period in previous years prior to Covid-19? Are these 20 latest deaths merely a coincident?

20 died of covid fella...0 died in previous years...don't really know what your suggesting...that somehow these drivers would have died anyway covid/no covid ??

Merseyrail member of staff has died from covid19 - worked at the ticket office in Crosby Liverpool.

What age were the drivers? What PPE did they have?