WHY ARE YOU SO THICK IN THE UK

I think the decline started when the Irish started coming over about 200 years ago.

Na you was intelligent then ....victorian england !  Industrial revolution, owned the seas ?

The irish should have worn masks at the Cheltenham meeting

I fecking did and every count pi55ed thenselves laughing

how difficult would it be to give the population of a small city masks for a week and see do the rates of infection drop.
but nobody is interested in this idea.

They are thick,especially the under 25's.

Apr 2, 2020 -- 10:40PM, brassneck wrote:

how difficult would it be to give the population of a small city masks for a week and see do the rates of infection drop.but nobody is interested in this idea.

Should be mandatory for the Ugly Munters IMHO.

I have a mask I am wearing Till I get tested , I could not Give a flying what the WHO advice is ...........

They are probably advising people not to wear them because there are not enough .. to make much difference

There is Evidence Distancing will not work any way 2 meters not being enough ..

czech republic made masks mandatory a while ago and it seems to have helped.

research from mit suggesting 8 metres may be the correct distance to be apart.

or play a football match and give one team of supporters masks and none for the second team of supporters.no problem getting volunteers ,and then check the health of the supporters one week later

They done all t hat in bergamoh

A week.later everyone was dead

Cos they where doing hug a kitchen sink
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It was Florence where people were encouraged to hug Chinese, it must have improved things for em or else there'd be a similar thread to this about how thick the Italians are.

Give it time Saddo

if ive got this right handjob hancocks latest wheeze to let the world no he,s superman who a virus cant kill,is this
the likes of him and doris who broke their own social ldistance rules sat next to each other in meetings,front bench sat on nadines knee,bragged about shaking everyone,s hand in a hospital,carried on going to work when suffering symptons,others carrying on going to pubs,holding parties ,going to the seaside,infecting ,themselves and others and undoubtly some unwittingly causing the deaths of other,s, are going to be rewarded with a yellow rubber band saying their immune a superhero
meanwhile those who obeyed every rule,used common sense stayed away from pubs,seaside their parents,their grandkids, give up work,lost jobs,lost livelehoods, etc and avoided getting the virus are going to have to stay in lockdown,whilst the covidiots such as hancock,doris and cummings are free to do as they please
the moment this happens is the second my lockdown finishes rubber band or no rubber band, as usual cant believe not one journo has pointed this out to handjob, and the police think their busy now

My brother in law is about to join the police,hes not the laziest man in the world...but he would definitely make the final,used to work in my old business selling skiwear and north face clobber b4 all the scallies bought it from jd sports.He worked with his partner my step daughter who was a brilliant manaager..anyway i put some top quality cctv in that i coud monitor between races as we had lost a couple of £500 jackets..never got to the bottom of that although my wife who worked in retail helped out for a few weeks and told me James did **** all ,all day everyday,

It says something about how the world has sleepwalked into this mess when there is no consensus on whether a face mask is effective in stopping the spread of a virus. Why should that be subject to any doubt? Viruses are not new. When you can get a hit on any subject you can think of on Google, surely someone somewhere has studied that question before.

684 deaths today,again over 4,000 cases i wonder what the real figures are..

Most people intelligent enough to know they won't get the 'real figures' from any country on Earth.

Really,i reckon France and Italy are being brutally honest...

why are they so thick in italy and spain?

Sweden doesn't have social distancing at all !

sweeden ,germany, herd immunity no herd immunity in the end makes no difference between 66% [uk] and 80% of those going on to ventilators are dying, other than a countries age demographics most countries will end up with similar figures

My theory is that they knew they
Never had enough facemasks
So out came the who with
The encyclopaedia of studys
....and there was one for them
Face masks dont do any goods
When in doubt find a study
Preferably done by a bunch of
Long haired students for a few hours off dossing

Test figures will start to increase steadliy , 684 not good, but when we hit 500 I thought the increase would be extremely progressive ??

We may well still see a thousand figure in the next few days ..

UK coronavirus death toll passes China

Sun delighted to spread more Panic, a Zero can be added to the China figures ....

Extreme lockdown in France but then they tell us that tens of thousands have been fined for breaking the rules. How stupid are they? I still don't think that more than 60% of adults could mark off 2 metres with any accuracy. Every time you see people queueing on TV they are much closer than that. I am still sticking to 10 metres distance on the rare occasions that I encounter a human being.

The rules that are laid down are a compromise between the strict enforcement that scientists would recommend and the practicality of getting food and exercise. The idea of everyone over 70 sitting at home waiting for a food delivery was quickly abandoned and then the idea that the supermarkets could provide more home delivery was shown to be equally impossible. Almost every bank, transport company, government, NHS or local authority phone line is permanently jammed or even unmanned so any of the advice to call such and such number is pointless.

People dying today probably caught it 10 days ago. That’s the problem. Early next week the lockdown will surely be extended till end of April.

I can't believe the number of people from UK on this forum who seem to think that this is like flu.
The death rate is not the issue, it never is in a pandemic. The rate of spread and overwhelming of hospitals is the issue, as it is in every pandemic. Like talking to a brick wall trying to explain this to some of them.

This virus spreads like wildfire compared to flu and the longer it spreads the bigger the difference between the two in terms of the number of people infected, ie it spreads to more people and it grown exponentially. Flu doesn't overwhelm hospitals. This will, even with a lockdown in place and many temporary hospitals being built. Why do you think the Tories of all people are scrambling round throwing up new hospitals in 10 days FFS? The Tories! Hospitals!!

Comparing death rates is like comparing two banks. One pays 5% interest a year and the other pays 5% interest a month. But the interest rate is 5% at both so there's no difference

In terms of facemasks... ask yourself why all healthcare professionals wear them. It they were useless why would they bother?

best thing is a full hazmat suit with a full face visor I would have thought

The panic of the fcuk up has set in,i think they gave up severl days maybe a week ago realizing the catastrophe they have caused,everything os collateral damage now,thus no rushing of testing of even NHS staff or PPE ventliators..
We have four doctirs and two nurses dead aready completely unnecesarry and you cam gurantee these figures are going to go up with the huge figures coming out..Local authorities sending letters out to people with illnesses disabilites sggesting NDR  wtf is going on,thankfully people are telling them to stick it and making it piblic..Who couldv'e possily suggest they did that i wonder,classic dom..

THESE tory killers need sorting out - and the tory lot running spain and italy too

....and now another 684 deaths reported!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?

Yes, you sit on your hands for even a week after cases start appearing with this and you are fúcked.

The US and UK are saying the Chinese are lying about their numbers now, because they know how much they've fúcked up and are already looking to shift blame. I don't trust the Chinese numbers but ask yourself whether a country that locks down immediately, has much better and much more equipment, much more testing, experience with SARS and even welds the doors of people's houses shut to keep them inside is going to have it anything near as bad as countries who sit on their hands.

Yes, Italy and Spain and others have fúcked up royally as well. The UK could be even worse than those two but even if they are not it's no excuse. It will be the 2008 excuse again - it was a worldwide problem and everyone else was affected too, nothing we could have done about it

You would almost hope the Chinese numbers are half accurate because if they aren't then it's going to get a lot worse.

lurka, I don't know anyone but the WHO and the BBC who believe the Chinese figures. Following WHO guidelines on anything related to these numbers must carry great risks, not to be trusted imo.

I don't trust the Chinese, but their approach is the same as the other Asian countries who all seem to have a lid on it compared to Europe and US and have a totally different approach. That's why I don't see how their figures are well worse than those other Asian countries. I think that is more indicative than anything else. Although with the amount of people in China it could get worse there than other Asian countries.

Yes the WHO have blood on their hands. They should have advised to close travel from China and Italy and baffling to me why they didn't.

The China figures were fine until everyone else started catching up...

so why are we allowing planes full of potential carriers into the country unchecked daily? yet we are confined to our homes?

Apr 3, 2020 -- 5:08PM, nineteen points wrote:

so why are we allowing planes full of potential carriers into the country unchecked daily? yet we are confined to our homes?

Ask Boris

maybe laura might ask him?

Education, education, education


Whatever happened to that blair geyser ?

Turns out boris was told to keep away from people..... You even voted for the thick ****

careful irish.there are some who have buried their heads in the sand and dont want to hear that

nanny state, having a monarchy, party politics, all makes people weak and want to pass the buck. nobody in the Uk wants to take responsibility. it's always someone else's fault

Revolution now!!!
Easter Monday uprising!!

Yes i noticed that with trump, masta, not his fault its china, not his fault its w h o ....love to see a self suicide by one of them because they fecked up , like they do in japan ....

We let in to many Irish and Somaliland immigrants and it has dropped Iq levels ,is the correct answer.

It is too many Flush,that is the correct answer.

Ouch flush, I never thought in my wildest dreams I would be 'lumped in' with Somalians, I thought 'we' had at the very least contributed something to this great country since building Canals in mid 1700s that drove the  Industrial Revolution to railways, etc, etc.

irishone, no point in asking you to stop posting shyyte as it appears to be your raison d'être.

Boris is risen again,HALLELUJAH!

None intended foxy.

Flush Gordon?

Cardschool days.

Anyway a great and well deserved response for the NHS 8.00 clap fair play.

Blighty suffers on both these points!

Irish guy calling Brits thick, lol.  They do irony in Ireland then

he has a point if you look at the buffoons leading us

whats thick is the complete lack of advice re strengthening our immune systems.

Normally this would include, fresh air, exercise and eating healthily. Reduce stress, be calm and enjoy life. Stress weakens the immune system.

What have they done? Kept people locked up under house arrest telling us we’ll kill or be killed if we read a book on the beach.

Major mostak

Major mistakes being made , all reflected in the figures, deaths likely to peak above spain and italy , why ? No facemasks, no ppe, w h o ?, China ? the irony of boris ststing he sho ok hands with covid workers, boasting you had world class scientists and n h s .... Waflob

I dont know snything about u k politics but feck me you must have been thick to vote him.in

Apr 10, 2020 -- 5:23PM, irishone wrote:

Major mistakes being made , all reflected in the figures, deaths likely to peak above spain and italy , why ? No facemasks, no ppe, w h o ?, China ? the irony of boris ststing he sho ok hands with covid workers, boasting you had world class scientists and n h s .... Waflob

We had more time than Italy & Spain to act too, it has been a catastrophic failure....and Boris being at deaths door has accidentally created a great diversion to keep the heat off.  That will dissipate in net 10 days.

Hancock was asked in question time in todays briefing,isn't it time the Goverment was more honest as in lockdown length,the woman cited Irelands new 5th of May lockdown date. A fair question answered by Hancock waffling on about Boris in hospital,half the briefing taken up with that,agree a definite ploy.

To be fair , if boris is bad leo is a disaster, i live in rural ireland and there aint a lot of social distancing going on, neighbour drove 40 miles to day via a motorway to visit ailing mother, not one road block, no gards about at all.... This is meant to be a two kilometre lockdown.... Absolute idiocy to not be able to police it

it's actually quite an idiotic idea or rule, that somebody without corona is not allowed to drive alone in car to visit his sick mum, perform social distancing when there, drive home alone back to his home.

What coroanvirus risk in the above actions is there ? ZERO

The reason for the 2km hasn't been fully explained correctly, it's **** all to do with the scenario you described.

if the car breaks down halfway how many would be involved then? you can walk the 2km.just saying like.

Its been a bit tighter today according to neighbours. Going back to the original point, how can the u k be the highest number of deaths in europe ?

Whats behind that ? Cheltenham ? Parks opening, mass gatherings, not enough ppi ....... There are things here that dont add up ...but of you cant add up ......you get fecked

buffoons going to hospitals, shaking hands with everyone then going to work and shaking hands with everyone then going home?

irishone, when Britain sneezes we catch a cold...

What's behind it is encouraging the spread in the early stages. It spreads like wildfire and doesn't need encouragement. Also lack of testing generally and virtually no testing while they encouraged the spread. Sit on your hands for a week or two and you are in a bad way. Sit on your hands and encourage the spread for a week or two and you are fúcked.

But that said, the time to judge the UK's approach will be when things get back to normal. By definition they were always going to have more deaths taking that route. There is a long way to go and countries who locked down earlier might have to stay locked down for much longer than the UK if more of the UK population are immune. Asian countries are experiencing second waves when they try to reopen.

Apr 10, 2020 -- 8:46PM, irishone wrote:

To be fair , if boris is bad leo is a disaster, i live in rural ireland and there aint a lot of social distancing going on, neighbour drove 40 miles to day via a motorway to visit ailing mother, not one road block, no gards about at all.... This is meant to be a two kilometre lockdown.... Absolute idiocy to not be able to police it

the 2km restriction is for exercise only. If his mother is ailing he is allowed to visit her for essential stuff like bringing her shopping or medicine. Plenty of places a lot more than 2km from eg a chemist or a supermarket but you are allowed to shop for food, medicine etc.

There is no way Leo is as bad as Boris. Not even close.

How on earth could it be mainly due to Cheltenham? The hotspots now are the same as they were in early March, London, Birmingham and the south east of Wales.

Some of you city folk seem to have no conception of rural life. Little or no mobile phone reception in many villages, very slow internet (although I am lucky on that), no mains gas or sewerage, no street lights, nearest chemist or GP surgery 6 miles, supermarket 7 miles, railway station 20 miles and that is in Somerset. I can well imagine it is much further in parts of Ireland bearing in mind that they have only 10% of the population of England in a similar land area. On the plus side most have big gardens, a very quiet lane past their houses, low pollution etc.

Sorry the 2km is not just for exercise, it originally was but then they introduced further restrictions. But you are still allowed travel beyond 2km for food or medicine or to provide care to a family member. And if his mother is over 70 or her illness makes her immuno-compromised then she is cocooned and is not allowed to leave the house for any reason, including shopping.

The point below about policing is a good one. The countries with the tightest restrictions have the lowest level of compliance while UK has one of the highest. The Government has admitted that it is amazed at the way the British public have reacted with 90% compliance-quite different from many similar countries that are around 80.

I agree Cheltenham gets undue stick but it was idiotic to let it and all other sporting events at the time go ahead. Even getting on a plane was idiotic. Planes have to be super-spread environments with people close together, using the same toilets and recirculated air in the cabin.

I agree entirely that plane and ship travel was not stopped when it should have been but trains including the tube in London and buses were worse. Several things could have been done differently but the issue was not just about minimising the virus, it was also about being seen to be fair. The vast majority of car journeys between homes were and are quite safe but were they fair to those without the opportunity?

So it comes to pass
U K top of the european deaths for covid 19 lockdown
Boris shakes hands all round at the covid labs
....and gets it
People wont wear facemasks
....and dont want to social distance
Yet you have world class scientists
....and a world class N H S
Finally included non hospital deaths in the figures
WTF ever happened to the UK ?

I always thought the UK education system was one of the best in the world .

It has failed its people.

Not a left or right issue.

You either have decent education or you get fecked , and right now the u k is totally fecked.

irish - when u all come out of dens I don't think your immune systems will be in good shape when socialising again.  Constant lock down is not helping the future health of those stuck inside. I feel there will be many issues due to this approach.

Interesting point Kristin, I think in rural sparsely populated areas people will be generally ok, because as it is they can get out in the fresh air, but densely populated areas are breeding grounds.

Apr 29, 2020 -- 11:00PM, irishone wrote:

So it comes to passU K top of the european deaths for covid 19 lockdownBoris shakes hands all round at the covid labs....and gets itPeople wont wear facemasks....and dont want to social distanceYet you have world class scientists....and a world class N H SFinally included non hospital deaths in the figuresWTF ever happened to the UK ?I always thought the UK education system was one of the best in the world .It has failed its people.Not a left or right issue.You either have decent education or you get fecked , and right now the u k is totally fecked.

The govt want people to get infected and thus the mask information is muddled with mis and dis information

Also they are obsessed with the NHS having enough masks
If they suddenly made them mandatory, people with deep pockets would hijack the supply and sell them to the highest bidders

I think also it's a macho thing, a bit like Mike Pence not wearing a mask in the hospital
He said he wanted to look people in the eye and for them to be able to hear his voice
To wear a mask in the west is to show weakness

I went for a long walk on the common yesterday and was surprised at how hard it was to maintain 2m distance even if you stepped off the path and let people pass (although often with an appreciative "thank you", which is always appreciated). It's annoying when you see groups of young people hanging about together as if everything is normal, but the thing that worried me most was people jogging, no doubt leaving a long trail of forcefully exhaled droplets behind them, running straight past me before I even had time to move out of the way or choose a different path.

I reckon people have got it wrong though - flattening the curve is the SOLE aim - the spread of this virus is pretty much inevitable until they come up with either a vaccine or a way to suppress the cytokine storm that leaves "developed" immune systems open to secondary bacterial pneumonia  infections (which I assume is what is meant by "CoViD-"related" deaths), so really all anyone can do is delay how long before they themselves catch it in the hope that herd immunity is reached first. Your own behaviour might affect the outcome in your individual case but the overall numbers will be the same everywhere at "n" deaths per million of population. And once the kids go back to school it's probably game over for everyone except hermits. People with any kind of susceptible pre-existing medical condition are going to have to completely isolate for maybe a year plus to have any chance of avoiding the ultimate gamble.

Not really sure what to make of the mask discussion. Maybe a mask will reduce infected droplets being exhaled, yet that could be off-set by the false confidence of others feeling they are safer. On the other hand if droplets and aerosols come onto your face your mouth and nose might be covered and, so long as you take the mask off carefully when you get home and use a fresh one each outing, it might be marginally safer, but no-one has been widely advocating wearing eye-protection in the street even though this is also a highly viable route of infection. The security guard at my local supermarket wears the full kit, comprising a full-face visor and nose-mouth cover with breather-filter, cos (almost unbelievably) I've seen him having to face people giving him verbal abuse at very close range, but the rest of the staff are using nothing much better then elasticated kitchen roll, if anything at all. Social distancing in the aisles is made almost impossible by the way most customers behave towards each other let alone the poor "invisible" employees who have to stack the shelves.

I guess the only people having the last laugh are those obsessive US "preppers" living in their back-garden bunkers stocked with a year's supply of baked beans, beef jerky and bog roll, lending credence to the phrase "When the sh!t goes downnnnn......you better be ready when the sh!t goes down".

I see that the population density argument now trending.

It is plainly obvious that you will get more infections and more deaths where there are more people.

Using this as an excuse is an insult.

Britain was too slow and under prepared .....FACT

Why ?

....Because you werent clever enough !

fcuk off you bog eyed mick

Thar ye go .......

The question needs answered - if NO vaccine then this Virus will still be about.  You cannot keep locking people up for months upon months.  This is going to cause more issues when they do eventually come out of their hibernation.

Over half of the Covid 19 deaths in Scotland are within care homes.  The more younger healthier Scots people currently hibernating need to be released from their homes to start mixing again.  Immunity will only be achieved through this.  The longer people are not mixing then we will be open to all sorts of virus's and diseases in the future.

I always thought the paddies were the fick ones

I still think the trick might be treatment rather than vaccine. Get that and you make it much less dangerous and more treatable. Do that and you can get your blessed herd immunity and the virus will simply burn itself out.

A nd you moaned about chinas figures
Cant believe u k figures now

Major problem now

You have got to use common sense ......