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Doesn't quite fit in with the narrative.....

... usual media cr@p is how wonderful and tolerant these places are

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By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Mar 20 17:45
You can understand backpackers away for a month or more, but anyone that went on a 2 week holiday as such hard to have much sympathy.
By:
geoff m
When: 29 Mar 20 17:51
agree lapsy
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Mar 20 17:55
I'd not have her back when UK is in a lockdown. Where is India in the calendar of Covid-19? I do not want any imported Covid-19 cases; a 2nd wave will probably kill more already infected.
By:
mafeking
When: 29 Mar 20 18:53
indeed it was obvious 3 weeks ago that this was getting serious in Europe. anyone in a distant location should have been making immediate plans to return then
By:
hulk23
When: 29 Mar 20 19:14
keeping the borders open so a few can be repatriated could cost thousands of lives, we have to draw the line somewhere & unfortunately that will mean some may have to become resourceful.  that's just the way it is unfortunately.  they could always head for sweden, who seem to be carrying on regardless ..
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Mar 20 19:30
This may sound callous, but I believe anyone intending to travel abroad within the last 3 weeks for whatever reason including a family funeral/wedding should have been aborted given the seriousness and speed of the spread of Covid-19. Or anyone still abroad then should have been returning to the UK or made effort to return to the UK asap.

Tough, but that's how it should be. The risks far outweigh the benefits.
By:
hulk23
When: 29 Mar 20 19:46
it does sound a little bit callous saying they should have been aborted Plain
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Mar 20 19:47
I disagree.

None of our people should be left behind to fend for themselves.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Mar 20 19:49
Sorry but, if in the midst of all this, she arranged a trip to India then she can sort out her own return. Daft bat. Should be forced to foot the bill for her travel and also for a place to quarantine once she lands.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 29 Mar 20 19:53
do they not quarantine when land ?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Mar 20 19:56
If the policy is 14 day enforced quarantine for anyone landing from India or New York or whatever then of course that should apply.

But the idea we just leave British citizens to fend for themselves because we disagree with their choices is abhorrent.
By:
casemoney
When: 29 Mar 20 19:56
Many others over there ??
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 29 Mar 20 20:04
We arsed up our response weeks ago. But I'm dumbfounded that we didn't demand people return to the country weeks ago or help them repatriate weeks ago if they so wished. That boat has surely long sailed now.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Mar 20 20:20
IT - that Shameema (ISIS bride or whatever) is a british citizen. Don't remember you being so keen on taxpayers footing the bill and having some people risking their safety bringing her home.


Fact is, this should have been sorted out weeks ago. We knew this was coming. What were we doing letting people swan off on holiday?
By:
hulk23
When: 29 Mar 20 20:20
by all means work with the consulate in india or wherever to ensure their safety.  but coming back here should be off the agenda, our borders should be closed.
By:
casemoney
When: 29 Mar 20 20:50
How many are over there ??  If enough the RAF will go ...

Is anyone actually interested in Begum ???

She is probably back anyway
By:
mad mad moon
When: 29 Mar 20 21:05
Always easy to judge things in hindsight.
If Boris had called for a lockdown in February when there were only a handful of cases,
Porky and his ilk would be going on about human rights, and a police state,
and others would be calling it an economic disaster.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Mar 20 21:11
Nope, just wrong lad. This was a spreading pandemic and the responsible thing was to protect the public. Maybe not shut down straight away (I'd have blocked flights from Milan once the virus escaped in Lombardy) but we could have been testing at a much higher rate (still not now) and never mind allowing thousands of Atleti fans to fly in from Madrid weeks later!!! and been stockpiling medical equipment given there were very good odds they'd have been needed.
By:
Angoose
When: 29 Mar 20 21:11
compassion
sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 29 Mar 20 21:25

Mar 29, 2020 -- 9:05PM, mad mad moon wrote:


Always easy to judge things in hindsight.If Boris had called for a lockdown in February when there were only a handful of cases,Porky and his ilk would be going on about human rights, and a police state,and others would be calling it an economic disaster.


Agree, and it's also for me to say this in hindsight, but South Korea have handled this much better from the start by adopting the WHO guidelines of test and trace, which we still refuse to do.

By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Mar 20 21:30
When they originally set off say 3 weeks ago surely they had some inkling they were gambling? Unless you were blind altogether the signs were getting worse then even.
Why take the risk?
They will be brought back soon enough,Few landed from Peru in Dublin tonight before going on to UK.
I do think the cruise companies were slowish to act.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 20 21:35
porky the defender of the indefensible  pontificating and talking down to a 'lad'  - what an arrogant supercilious aftertiming poser
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Mar 20 21:39

Mar 29, 2020 -- 9:35PM, moisok wrote:


porky the defender of the indefensible

By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Mar 20 21:39
All the right wing fella's are your buds Moisok,ya won't say boo to them,we are all human,Mr Chang an all.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Mar 20 21:41
No advertising from me soft lad, my opinions were on here weeks ago.


One day, one of your accusations is gonna be in the same postcode as the mark. Hope I'm around to see it.

Love to see what I've been defending too fwiw.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 30 Mar 20 08:27
pp,

Begum is not a British citizen.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 30 Mar 20 08:28
She is
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 30 Mar 20 08:40
No she is not. Why make things up?

What has the plight of someone who is not a British citizen got to do with dozens of British citizens left to fend for themselves in India?

Personally I think the British government should help our people stuck in India who were given 4 hours notice of lockdown.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 30 Mar 20 08:51
well, ok...she was british till our government unilaterally decided to strip her of her citizenship.

maybe they should just do the same to this woman in india and get you onside.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 30 Mar 20 10:35
Strange idea that people who are stuck in a foreign country whilst on holiday due to the virus outbreak should be stripped of their British citizenship in the same way as someone who joined a terrorist state.

I fail to see the link between the two situations.

I, for one, hope that the government can get our people home from India and elsewhere.
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 10:41
Governments relieving themselves of their responsibilities towards individual citizens is an abhorrent practice.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 30 Mar 20 10:43
I see similarities.

People making stupid decisions, travelling very far in good knowledge that they might struggle to get back home. When that does indeed happen, they want someone else to step in and bail them out.

Begum shouldn't have fallen for the IS mythology and gone to Syria, and these people shouldn't have gone on holiday just as travel was being restricted.

If I had a family member working in this area, I'd be appalled if they were put in harm's way because of some idiot ignoring advice and swanning off on holiday.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 30 Mar 20 10:44
Personal resposibility, would you have brought your family/wife on a holiday from say the 10th of March?
Even going through an airport and sitting on a plane is/was a risk.
I certainly won't have done that to anyone i cared about, you seem as if you might have.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 30 Mar 20 10:50
annoys me is the people are always stating how much been quoted for a flight home, always seem to be posh people or students on a gap year, **** em, make them pay.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 30 Mar 20 11:04
What next?

A social credit system if people do not behave as 'required'?

It is a time for the country to stick together and protect our people.

Not to fight amongst ourselves.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 30 Mar 20 11:07
I had a flight booked for Rome on 13th March. It was not rocket science not to get on it. Little sympathy for many  people stuck without a route home atm. I also ask why or who allowed them to fly out?

I believe in Charles Darwin
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 30 Mar 20 11:09
It is a time for the country to stick together and protect our people.

Not to fight amongst ourselves.


Are you taking The Guardian now IT?
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 11:11
Grin
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 30 Mar 20 11:16
Sticking together and protecting people also requires taking personal responsibility and not putting yourself in harm's way and expecting someone else to endanger themselves to help you when you do something unnecessary and idiotic.
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