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That's a hell of a conspiracy.
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Italy has 56 million people if 56000 people die then that is 1 in every 1000 compare that to how many people in each 1000 cancer kills
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Italy has the oldest population in the world behind Japan, many venture north during retirement as there's better health care there, southern Italy is a lot poorer.
98% of those who have died have had underlying health issues and mostly over 65 Of course this virus is unfortunately catalysing elderly people towards the end of their lives and nobody wants that but you need to add perspective as well, this as said many times, is not the black death sweeping through the world where those dead had Red x's painted over the doors in every street going. Vast vast majority of people are going to be ok. |
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you need to be looking at all these russian belarus and friendly games if you want to earn money
forget all this strange obsession with numbers that won't make you a dime |
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Who benefits?
Follow the money. |
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it has been a very helpful replacement for the prem league - over a million matched on one game!!
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It has killed 15 people per million in the UK.
It has killed 2 people per million in China It is a 'real' virus but it's not the black death. Within 12 months we'll all have had it in one form or the other. |
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After this Initial 3 weeks which I agree with hoping to Spread the spread , A new plan of action will be needed
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China figures are Crooked Lief
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There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics it was popularized in the United States by Mark Twain
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Possibly Case but the deaths per million elsewhere say Germany for example is 5 deaths per million.
Spain 124 per mil and Italy 166 but they have sizeable elderly populations. Are they victims on their own circumstances, close families, heavy smokers? Still, not the Black Plague is it. This is more about money in my opinion. Transfer of wealth. |
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Keep an eye on India, could explode there in next 2 weeks
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leif, who are you saying is going to be profiting from this ?
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Follow the money in the next 18 months.
Winners and losers. Trillions of lucre, created as debt, will flow to the winners. The mugs at the bottom will be on the hook for the lot. |
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1929 but worse,that is what this is about
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Any ideas leif, can't wait 18 months.
I can't see how any government can profit from this, and it's them that are locking down countries, some on the left, some on the right. |
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lets do the time warp
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The death rate in Italy is so high because they have 40% of cases and 60% of deaths occurring in Lombardy, an area with about 1/6th of the population.
The Italian health service is very good, with plenty of capacity (almost double the ICU beds of the UK) and that is one of the reasons why the population is so old (23% above 65). But when you have an outbreak confined to such a small area, the health service in that area becomes overwhelmed sooner and stays overwhelmed for longer - that is the main reason why the death rate is so high, that is when the death rate rockets to a level much higher than flu. People are dying without getting proper treatment. That is what every country in the world is trying to avoid this scenario as much as possible. That is what the lockdown measures are for - in anticipation of that happening, which is almost guaranteed in most Euro countries, not as a reaction to a much lower death rate comparable to flu in the early stages of an outbreak. You can't do much to reduce the death rate from flu, but you can do a lot to avoid the death rate from this virus from rocketing for a sustained period. New York/New Jersey is looking a lot like Lombardy in terms of US case concentration. About half the cases in the US are in these two adjoining states but they may be just a week or two ahead of other US states where the numbers are growing fast. And the virus is beginning to spread South in Italy, where there is less healthcare available and where people are poorer. If it gets bad in Naples, one of the most densely populated areas in Europe, it will be disastrous and there could be anarchy in Italy. |
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peter hitchens away again today gone to far,death rates now predicted below 6.000,would have died anyway, blah ,blah
but still no answers suggestions as to how they,d have prevented the NHS grinding to a halt, I assume he thinks everyone would have to die ,suffer at home that's 3 articles so far from hitchens never mention Italy ,come on peter simple question what would you have done different in Italy, I assume just carry on, no lockdown,forgetting why they locked down in 1st place ,because their world class health service was been overwhelmed |