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By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:18
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 28 Mar 20 15:22
Stay home....Don't trust the NHS (its not fit for purpose)...Save your life (more chance self medicating at home)
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:23


France will go through 2,000 today, that will be 4 days after hitting 1,000.
By:
mafeking
When: 28 Mar 20 15:23
Italy went from something like 300 to 1800 in a week. looks we're gonna jump from 300 to 1300 in the similar period
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:24
The early comparisons with Italy start to hit home now.
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 15:25
the local forum loons those not self isolating with virus say 247 would have died anyway
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:27
What is also worrying is the lack of people being reported as having recovered from this.
The number was 8 at the end of February, 18 on 10 March, 65 on 20 March, 135 on 28 March where it remains.
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 15:28
they tend to be the ones wearing andy Coulson non story tee shirts, Laugh
By:
Make my hay
When: 28 Mar 20 15:37
thanks for the info Angoose, do you know if they have started listing names, ages and what underlying health conditions were of the 1,019 yet? as I think this is of public interest.
By:
Just Checking
When: 28 Mar 20 15:41
Angoose it's always going to be a new biggeer jump every day until it calms down, and given it's a quasi-exponential figure, a bigger figure every day.

The more interesting figure is not the raw figure, it would be a (ideally statistically smoothed in some way) INCREASE as a ratio.
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:42
There is basic info given with each of the daily releases, but nothing on a cumulative basis.

Clearly names are sensitive and many families will not wish for that to be released.
But your general point is valid, and I suspect we will be given some form of analysis at a press briefing in the not to distant future.

If we see a further increase in the daily toll, the public will get really scared and will need to be better informed.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 15:42
Lots of people going to have permanent lung damage,DWP  are going to be busy can see a lot of court cases as well after this..
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 15:43
terry mcaan, sonto when he,s recovered, moisk and co want the autopsies published
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:44

Mar 28, 2020 -- 3:41PM, Just Checking wrote:


Angoose it's always going to be a new biggeer jump every day until it calms down, and given it's a quasi-exponential figure, a bigger figure every day.The more interesting figure is not the raw figure, it would be a (ideally statistically smoothed in some way) INCREASE as a ratio.


Yeah, a combination of a smoothed daily average and percentage increase may be more useful, although the majority will react more to the basic fugures.

By:
Cider
When: 28 Mar 20 15:44
The figures are when the deaths are registered, not when the individuals actually died. Which is being misreported quite frequently.
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 15:47
To be a little bit fair, it keeps the message simple.
You'd just bring in more cynicism if you added that administrative caveat, just look at the frenzy when they amended the reporting cycle.
By:
HGS
When: 28 Mar 20 15:47
Therein lies the problem with stats. We know how many are dying from this and death to cases ratio seems relatively low. However, we don't know how many of these cases are still being treated. A large percentage I would imagine.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Mar 20 15:50
It makes the daily totals a little more difficult to track reliably. As there is obviously an increased burden on the administration of deaths too. That could be why the figures reported on Sunday and Monday are a little lower too.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Mar 20 15:51
Minsk  doing well at home  now 3  -  0  up

stay safe
By:
Just Checking
When: 28 Mar 20 15:52
Angoose actually there is surely a way of analysing an exponential growth for accuracy? Fit it and compare it you want?
Exactly same as there is a log function for .... look at that if you can be interested. They are inverses.

The fact it's kind of exponential in the "unrestricted" sense is a given. It annoys me that people think that's a new concept and somehow we (the British) didn't get that due to "stupid Tories wanting genocide". Q.v. every ****ing Corbynite moron on twitter.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Mar 20 15:53
Isn't exciting counting numbers - I revel in it but did slip up on one game but still up on numbers particularly on the cash side
By:
breadnbutter
When: 28 Mar 20 15:56
Think the recovered anomaly maybe summit to do with the relapse thing, German figures don't show many recovered because of this, notable no term like cleared, now immune, ect so still a bit of understanding to be done. German figures need further scrutiny imo, summit not right. China completey virus free now? Aye right, Russia a handful of deaths and no problems. Aye right.
By:
Make my hay
When: 28 Mar 20 16:00
names are sensitive and many families will not wish for that to be released

Yes, I can understand that.
I have read somewhere that America has been releasing the ages, underlying health conditions and what area the country they lived. Which would be important information if the UK could do the same.
By:
casemoney
When: 28 Mar 20 16:01
We are probably Approaching 150000 known positive cases if not more  ,with 1000 dead Sad

Coronavirus Cases:
621,080
view by country
Deaths:
28,662
Recovered:
137,363

China I would say top figure nearer 6 million add a zero deaths and recoveries
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 16:02
germany has had over 200 deaths
more testing
more young people testing positive ,hospitalised than most countries,

but if they most icu beds, most ventilators,best health service in Europe no suprise there keeping more people alive for longer,question is how may are recovering leaving hospital,if them numbers are roughly the same as other countries ,eventually their death rate will catch up
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 16:03
Would love to know how our serious or critical numbers are only 163,yet every other country % wise huge amount of cases were stuck on 20 for three days,surely there must be hundreds if not a 1,000 figures are obviously miles out..But why are the other countrues reporting them all and up to date
By:
Just Checking
When: 28 Mar 20 16:09
Gigglio what do you think is actually wrong with our figures. "Eton Tories" isn't an accurate answer.
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 16:12
Hey, we're going to get Burberry face masks now.

Burberry will leverage its global supply chain to fast-track the delivery of more than 100,000 surgical masks to the NHS for its medical staff. It is the latest British company to throw its weight behind the fight against coronavirus and the first major UK fashion house to do so.

The luxury label will also repurpose its trench coat factory in Yorkshire to make non-surgical gowns and masks for patients.

It is also funding research into a single-dose vaccine developed by the University of Oxford that is on course to begin human trials next month.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 16:13
Look at critical cases we are at 1% then look down the column of countries,we have one of the lowest in serious or critical condition,is this because more are dying hardly any making it to ventilators..
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 16:15
On our figures you are dying or in mild recovery i don't buy it those figures have to be wrong..
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 16:16
were basically going to reach daily figures of around a 1000 a day by Friday and for at least a week before we see any possible s,lowdown due to lockdown, unless something not yet indentified happens, I assume when Italian/Spanish type numbers roll in the loons will leave the room/forum
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 28 Mar 20 16:17
giggilo that serious figure hasn't changed all week...it is  a nonsense figure just like a lot of the others are
By:
Injera
When: 28 Mar 20 16:18
The new figures include a further 246 people in England, with patients aged between 33 and 100 years old. All of them had underlying health conditions except 13 people, who were aged 63 and over.

- BBC
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Mar 20 16:20
dr chaand nagapul on bbc now making a great case for testing allowing negative nhs workers at home returning to work,never mentioned once the 100,a 1000,s currently working he might lose through testing positive, they surely cant believe theres more negative workers at home than positive workers currently working
By:
Mexico
When: 28 Mar 20 16:21
1st

"terry mcaan, sonto when he,s recovered, moisk and co want the autopsies published"


These guys won't be happy unless they were allowed to perform the autopsies which David Icke watching on giving them "the truth".
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 16:28
Critical or serious

Spain 18%
France 12%
Iran 9%
Netherlands 8%
Belgium 8%
Sweden 7%
Turkey 4%
Germany 3%
usa 2.3%
China 1%
UK %

So along with China we have the lowest serious or critcal..
By:
breadnbutter
When: 28 Mar 20 16:28
Tbf, the 21 year old girl widely reported as a covid victim and subsequently reported to have had suffered from a heart attack by the coroner with the hospital then saying she tested negative should raise a few questions for all of us. Rip the girl but not covid as widely reported, how did the press get the info ect ect?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 28 Mar 20 16:30
Sorry,suffered a heart attack as confirmed by hospital.Covid only mentioned by coroner, and press.
By:
Eric.Cartman
When: 28 Mar 20 16:33
gigglio..our serious/critical figure hasn't changed in a week..its a old figure that hasn't been updated (its not just us some of the other figures are the same)
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