Another Big Jump, 260 Today

Stay home....Don't trust the NHS (its not fit for purpose)...Save your life (more chance self medicating at home)

France will go through 2,000 today, that will be 4 days after hitting 1,000.

Italy went from something like 300 to 1800 in a week. looks we're gonna jump from 300 to 1300 in the similar period

The early comparisons with Italy start to hit home now.

the local forum loons those not self isolating with virus say 247 would have died anyway

What is also worrying is the lack of people being reported as having recovered from this.
The number was 8 at the end of February, 18 on 10 March, 65 on 20 March, 135 on 28 March where it remains.

they tend to be the ones wearing andy Coulson non story tee shirts,

thanks for the info Angoose, do you know if they have started listing names, ages and what underlying health conditions were of the 1,019 yet? as I think this is of public interest.

Angoose it's always going to be a new biggeer jump every day until it calms down, and given it's a quasi-exponential figure, a bigger figure every day.

The more interesting figure is not the raw figure, it would be a (ideally statistically smoothed in some way) INCREASE as a ratio.

There is basic info given with each of the daily releases, but nothing on a cumulative basis.

Clearly names are sensitive and many families will not wish for that to be released.
But your general point is valid, and I suspect we will be given some form of analysis at a press briefing in the not to distant future.

If we see a further increase in the daily toll, the public will get really scared and will need to be better informed.

Lots of people going to have permanent lung damage,DWP  are going to be busy can see a lot of court cases as well after this..

terry mcaan, sonto when he,s recovered, moisk and co want the autopsies published

Mar 28, 2020 -- 3:41PM, Just Checking wrote:

Angoose it's always going to be a new biggeer jump every day until it calms down, and given it's a quasi-exponential figure, a bigger figure every day.The more interesting figure is not the raw figure, it would be a (ideally statistically smoothed in some way) INCREASE as a ratio.

Yeah, a combination of a smoothed daily average and percentage increase may be more useful, although the majority will react more to the basic fugures.

The figures are when the deaths are registered, not when the individuals actually died. Which is being misreported quite frequently.

To be a little bit fair, it keeps the message simple.
You'd just bring in more cynicism if you added that administrative caveat, just look at the frenzy when they amended the reporting cycle.

Therein lies the problem with stats. We know how many are dying from this and death to cases ratio seems relatively low. However, we don't know how many of these cases are still being treated. A large percentage I would imagine.

It makes the daily totals a little more difficult to track reliably. As there is obviously an increased burden on the administration of deaths too. That could be why the figures reported on Sunday and Monday are a little lower too.

Minsk  doing well at home  now 3  -  0  up

stay safe

Angoose actually there is surely a way of analysing an exponential growth for accuracy? Fit it and compare it you want?
Exactly same as there is a log function for .... look at that if you can be interested. They are inverses.

The fact it's kind of exponential in the "unrestricted" sense is a given. It annoys me that people think that's a new concept and somehow we (the British) didn't get that due to "stupid Tories wanting genocide". Q.v. every ****ing Corbynite moron on twitter.

Isn't exciting counting numbers - I revel in it but did slip up on one game but still up on numbers particularly on the cash side

Think the recovered anomaly maybe summit to do with the relapse thing, German figures don't show many recovered because of this, notable no term like cleared, now immune, ect so still a bit of understanding to be done. German figures need further scrutiny imo, summit not right. China completey virus free now? Aye right, Russia a handful of deaths and no problems. Aye right.

names are sensitive and many families will not wish for that to be released

Yes, I can understand that.
I have read somewhere that America has been releasing the ages, underlying health conditions and what area the country they lived. Which would be important information if the UK could do the same.

We are probably Approaching 150000 known positive cases if not more  ,with 1000 dead

Coronavirus Cases:
621,080
view by country
Deaths:
28,662
Recovered:
137,363

China I would say top figure nearer 6 million add a zero deaths and recoveries

germany has had over 200 deaths
more testing
more young people testing positive ,hospitalised than most countries,

but if they most icu beds, most ventilators,best health service in Europe no suprise there keeping more people alive for longer,question is how may are recovering leaving hospital,if them numbers are roughly the same as other countries ,eventually their death rate will catch up

Would love to know how our serious or critical numbers are only 163,yet every other country % wise huge amount of cases were stuck on 20 for three days,surely there must be hundreds if not a 1,000 figures are obviously miles out..But why are the other countrues reporting them all and up to date

Gigglio what do you think is actually wrong with our figures. "Eton Tories" isn't an accurate answer.

Hey, we're going to get Burberry face masks now.

Burberry will leverage its global supply chain to fast-track the delivery of more than 100,000 surgical masks to the NHS for its medical staff. It is the latest British company to throw its weight behind the fight against coronavirus and the first major UK fashion house to do so.

The luxury label will also repurpose its trench coat factory in Yorkshire to make non-surgical gowns and masks for patients.

It is also funding research into a single-dose vaccine developed by the University of Oxford that is on course to begin human trials next month.

Look at critical cases we are at 1% then look down the column of countries,we have one of the lowest in serious or critical condition,is this because more are dying hardly any making it to ventilators..

On our figures you are dying or in mild recovery i don't buy it those figures have to be wrong..

were basically going to reach daily figures of around a 1000 a day by Friday and for at least a week before we see any possible s,lowdown due to lockdown, unless something not yet indentified happens, I assume when Italian/Spanish type numbers roll in the loons will leave the room/forum

giggilo that serious figure hasn't changed all week...it is  a nonsense figure just like a lot of the others are

The new figures include a further 246 people in England, with patients aged between 33 and 100 years old. All of them had underlying health conditions except 13 people, who were aged 63 and over.

- BBC

dr chaand nagapul on bbc now making a great case for testing allowing negative nhs workers at home returning to work,never mentioned once the 100,a 1000,s currently working he might lose through testing positive, they surely cant believe theres more negative workers at home than positive workers currently working

1st

"terry mcaan, sonto when he,s recovered, moisk and co want the autopsies published"


These guys won't be happy unless they were allowed to perform the autopsies which David Icke watching on giving them "the truth".

Critical or serious

Spain 18%
France 12%
Iran 9%
Netherlands 8%
Belgium 8%
Sweden 7%
Turkey 4%
Germany 3%
usa 2.3%
China 1%
UK %

So along with China we have the lowest serious or critcal..

Tbf, the 21 year old girl widely reported as a covid victim and subsequently reported to have had suffered from a heart attack by the coroner with the hospital then saying she tested negative should raise a few questions for all of us. Rip the girl but not covid as widely reported, how did the press get the info ect ect?

Sorry,suffered a heart attack as confirmed by hospital.Covid only mentioned by coroner, and press.

gigglio..our serious/critical figure hasn't changed in a week..its a old figure that hasn't been updated (its not just us some of the other figures are the same)

gig, how you taken those numbers off worldometers?

If you have they are nonsense numbers. The UK is not publishing critical numbers. Also there is no common way of measuring it between hospitals let alone between countries. Ignore that figure. Also ignore positive test numbers and recovered numbers. Test more and the numbers are higher so they meaningless comparisons.

Only number to look at is deaths.

the site is quite happy to leave old figures on...even more than a week old..they should just put unknown after 24hrs if no new number

and ignore the figures from China and Iran regarding deaths, as they are obvious outliers.

Mar 28, 2020 -- 4:28PM, breadnbutter wrote:

Tbf, the 21 year old girl widely reported as a covid victim and subsequently reported to have had suffered from a heart attack by the coroner with the hospital then saying she tested negative should raise a few questions for all of us. Rip the girl but not covid as widely reported, how did the press get the info ect ect?

Family announced it to the media, either directly or indirectly via social media.

Strange how everywhere reported she had died, but I've only seen two outlets report it was an error (well haven't checked to see if anything further this morning). The way our media works, errors and misinformation are so dangerous because they largely go uncorrected.

Today’s number is about 16% of the daily death rate. We’re yet to learn how much overlapping there is between CV deaths and others.

It will be a few weeks before we know if this is a deadly killer or just another bug

think spain and Italy already no,or do you think we have something different

Mar 28, 2020 -- 4:44PM, A_T wrote:

It will be a few weeks before we know if this is a deadly killer or just another bug

Turning exhibition centres in to field hospitals, converting parts of airports in to temporary morgues does provide a bit of  clue.

do you have data on total deaths in Italy and Spain per day (or week or month) compared to previous years?

guiseppe and pedro text to say they havnt in previous years snuck in the middle of the night to take 900 coffins away on a daily basis for over a fortnight, but said in previous years they might have thrw them in a ditch,if that helps

matt hancock tweeted in previous years he didn't build 3 new hospitals,3 mortuary,s order 50,000 ventilators but you,d have to aske previous health secs if they did

Turning exhibition centres in to field hospitals, converting parts of airports in to temporary morgues does provide a bit of  clue

are they crammed full of dying people?

Mar 28, 2020 -- 5:02PM, A_T wrote:

Turning exhibition centres in to field hospitals, converting parts of airports in to temporary morgues does provide a bit of  clueare they crammed full of dying people?

Perhaps be better to ask that again this time next week...

Number of deaths in Spain from 2006 to 2018
Number of deaths
2018    474,523  = 1300 per day.
2017    424,523
2016    410,611
2015    422,568

Massive jump from ‘17.

Italy 2017 636k deaths . 1742 a day.

Tribute has been paid to a young Welsh father following his death days after telling his family he had a cold.

"Fit and healthy" Thomas Davies, 27, died at home on Thursday three days after falling ill with suspected coronavirus symptoms.

Thomas, a "devoted" and "hard-working" family man from Anglesey, had become a father for a second time with fiancée Rhiannon only 10 days ago with the birth of his newborn son.

Now his family are urging people to stay at home to avoid experiencing the "heartbreak" they have had to endure.

Sian Shears, Thomas' older sister, said: "Thomas had been ill with what he thought was a normal cold. He had sweats and aches.

"He fell ill a few days ago but thought he was over the worst of it.

"He went to bed not last night but the night before and he didn't wake up.

"He was healthy, he never had any health issues. He never smoked in his life. He had a newborn baby 10 days ago and he has a little boy.

Sian, from Newport, is now pleading for individuals to stay at home and follow government lockdown advice.

The mum-of-four said: "Stay in. This is destroying people's lives.

"This has broken my family's heart. There are so many selfish people out there. It's not worth hanging around bus stops and cornershops, it's not worth it.

"Nobody should have to feel the heartbreak I feel and my family is going through. I can't leave my house to see my family, I don't even know if I can go to my own brother's funeral because people aren't listening."

All 246 deaths in England either aged 63+ or underlying health conditions.

Spain meanwhile says parts of the country are peaking. Hopefully a bit of good news.

has anywhere in the world reported higher than normal overall death rates?

80% of  caes,deaths in italy are in the north,so iof your asking have people in the south stopped dying of other things, NO

Angoose,why do wet dream over people dying,seek help as mex would say

no that wasn't what i was asking

*you wet dream

Why do you wet dream over crackpot conspiracy theories ?

Its unnaturally