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Jeremy Corbyn says the government's response to coronavirus proves he was "absolutely right" about public spending at the 2019 general election.
The Labour leader told the BBC he had been "denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford" to fix social wrongs.
But he said he had been vindicated by the vast sums the government was spending on the current crisis.
The Tories now realised they had to "invest in the state", he added.
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What an idiotic vole this man is.
The Labour leader told the BBC he had been "denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford" to fix social wrongs.
But he said he had been vindicated by the vast sums the government was spending on the current crisis.
The Tories now realised they had to "invest in the state", he added.
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What an idiotic vole this man is.
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sounds like you want everything to go back to the same after this is over
he has a point,as soon as big business gets into trouble the money is found
He has no point at all. We can take current measures because all our competitors are doing the same, it levels the economic playing field.
Hopefully everything goes back to how it was after this terrible virus has been defeated.
He speaks with common sense but of course the right wing nut jobs don't like the truth being told ... the magic money tree apears at a time whent big business trumpets that they need help
I like big and small business, it is thanks to them that we enjoy such a good life, hopefully we can get back to that.
of course it will just like 2008,give it another 10/15 years and we will be bailing big companys out again,after they have spent the time boosting executive pay,buying back their own stock to boost their own pay,borrowing money at low rates to buyback their own stock so companys have no money in reserve for hard times,and then a crash and they are first there with the begging bowl
Still whining and living in one of the most prosperous and free and peaceful countries in the worlds history
no one likes to be thankful
no one likes to be thankful
Mar 27, 2020 -- 10:03AM, geordie1956 wrote:
He speaks with common sense but of course the right wing nut jobs don't like the truth being told ... the magic money tree apears at a time whent big business trumpets that they need help
exactly, the magical , mysterious money tree. lets hope its visible next time nhs workers want a pay rise .
There is no magic money tree.
We will all be paying for this reaction to the virus for many years in increased taxes. We are in a war economy right now. What we must not do is sell off national assets to the Chinese in the same way we sold things to the USA after WW2.
Corbyn wanted to spend many during the good (non-crisis) times on things that were not essential like free broadband which would have left us with even less money for situations like this.
After this crisis the best way to rebuild the country will be to reduce the role of the state again and let the risk takers in small and medium size businesses do their thing innovating and creating jobs.
We must not let the leftists use this as an excuse to bring in universal incomes, over the top green policies that hurt the poor, increased low skilled immigration and increased tax on SMEs.
We will all be paying for this reaction to the virus for many years in increased taxes. We are in a war economy right now. What we must not do is sell off national assets to the Chinese in the same way we sold things to the USA after WW2.
Corbyn wanted to spend many during the good (non-crisis) times on things that were not essential like free broadband which would have left us with even less money for situations like this.
After this crisis the best way to rebuild the country will be to reduce the role of the state again and let the risk takers in small and medium size businesses do their thing innovating and creating jobs.
We must not let the leftists use this as an excuse to bring in universal incomes, over the top green policies that hurt the poor, increased low skilled immigration and increased tax on SMEs.
When and if we manage to get through this crisis. The debt will have to be repaid, that means working harder for less pay, sorry
Hes like a drunk old boxer ' I shudda been someone', still can't accept the beating he took.
after the 2008 crisis and we were told the country is almost bankrupt and how much have we paid off the debt since then?
No time to be playing snide party politics GAZO, he is out of oreder.
We are billions in debt, that's because we are living a lifestyle we can't afford. Look around at the rest of the world
Time to realise that no one in Britain is in poverty, we are all wealthy so stop whining
Time to realise that no one in Britain is in poverty, we are all wealthy so stop whining
Corbyn was rejected at the ballot box, time he went away
back to after 2008 crash,we have supposedly had 12 great economic years and we have paid f-all off the debt,in fact it probally went up 3 fold,so how the hell are we going to get out of this if we go back to doing the same thing because god knows what its going to be after this
I didn't say go back to doing the same thing, I said I hope we can go back to how it was before the virus struck
hopefully things can remain pretty much as they were, but of course that may be impossible..they could be worse
hopefully things can remain pretty much as they were, but of course that may be impossible..they could be worse
pretty much as they were? that means things are pretty good, be thankful
Nothing in the world is the same as it was last December, his pre-virus spending plans mean absolutely nothing today but he's happy to pretend otherwise to get himself heard.
Have they had to postpone getting a new leader? I hope so.
Once pray god this is over give everyone a pay cut, thanks.
if you go back to how it was before this crisis its going back to doing the same thing
if you want a paycut just give half your money,salary or pension to a charity
We do things differently, and hopefully things will be as good
start with giving everyone a pay cut
start with giving everyone a pay cut
GAZO
27 Mar 20 09:25
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back to after 2008 crash,we have supposedly had 12 great economic years and we have paid f-all off the debt,in fact it probally went up 3 fold,so how the hell are we going to get out of this if we go back to doing the same thing because god knows what its going to be after this
GAZO
27 Mar 20 09:40
Joined: 10 Aug 02
| Topic/replies: 3,951 | Blogger: GAZO's blog
if you go back to how it was before this crisis its going back to doing the same thing
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Exactly. But having an even bigger state and even less people generating wealth in the real economy will put us in an even worse position. Time to accept that if we want a lifestyle better than people in East Asia that work more hours than us and have less welfare than us we need to innovate better (and encourage it through tax breaks and rewards). Europe is living beyond it means with a sense of self entitlement that is no longer merited.
27 Mar 20 09:25
Joined: 10 Aug 02
| Topic/replies: 3,951 | Blogger: GAZO's blog
back to after 2008 crash,we have supposedly had 12 great economic years and we have paid f-all off the debt,in fact it probally went up 3 fold,so how the hell are we going to get out of this if we go back to doing the same thing because god knows what its going to be after this
GAZO
27 Mar 20 09:40
Joined: 10 Aug 02
| Topic/replies: 3,951 | Blogger: GAZO's blog
if you go back to how it was before this crisis its going back to doing the same thing
^
Exactly. But having an even bigger state and even less people generating wealth in the real economy will put us in an even worse position. Time to accept that if we want a lifestyle better than people in East Asia that work more hours than us and have less welfare than us we need to innovate better (and encourage it through tax breaks and rewards). Europe is living beyond it means with a sense of self entitlement that is no longer merited.
Jeremy Corbyn says the government's response to coronavirus proves he was "absolutely right" about public spending at the 2019 general election.
The Labour leader told the BBC he had been "denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford" to fix social wrongs.
But he said he had been vindicated by the vast sums the government was spending on the current crisis.
The Tories now realised they had to "invest in the state", he added.
In an interview with BBC's Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, Mr Corbyn said that the country had been "ill-prepared" for the coronavirus pandemic because of "10 years of austerity, of underfunding the National Health Service and underfunding our benefit system".
He said the government had been "shocked" by the national emergency, as their "instincts" were for "free market economics and the small state".
"They've now suddenly realised that they have to spend money to invest in the state, as we have always said as a party, and they have come around to a lot of that position."
Mr Corbyn said the government had also failed to realise how many people were in "insecure" employment in the UK when they drew up their response to the emergency.
But he believed that the pandemic had changed the political landscape forever.
"I think our society and our politics will never be the same again, because we have suddenly realised as a society and a community, we need everybody - and everybody has a contribution to make."
Mr Corbyn has just over a week to go as Labour leader, after four-and-half years in the job.
The result of the contest to replace him - between Sir Keir Starmer, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy - will be announced on Saturday, 4 April.
Mr Corbyn decided to stand down after Labour's heavy defeat in December's general election, which came two years after a narrower defeat at the polls.
He said: "I did everything I possibly could to win both elections and to say to the people of this country, the only way our society can come together is if we're prepared to invest.
"I was denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford, in order to right the social wrongs of this country.
"I didn't think that it would take only three months for me to be proved absolutely right by the amount of money that government is now prepared to put in - and Parliament has just voted through - to deal with the coronavirus crisis.
"So this is a change in our politics, which the coronavirus crisis has actually meant in every country in the world.
"There's suddenly a realisation that we're only as healthy as the safety of our neighbour."
Labour fought the 2019 election on a promise to increase spending on the NHS and other public services and bring rail, water, electricity and broadband into public ownership.
Mr Corbyn blamed the party's defeat on divisions over Brexit, which led to a vote at Labour's conference to negotiate a new deal with the EU and then put it to another referendum.
That policy "clearly did not win the election", Mr Corbyn told Laura Kuenssberg.
But he added: "I did my best to bring people together on the principles that in or out of the EU, we needed to have an investment-led economy, we needed to be anti-austerity."
Asked if his leadership was also to blame, he said he had received "unprecedented level of abuse from the mainstream media of me personally", which he said had to be "factored in".
Reflecting on his time as leader, he said was "proud" of Labour's "hugely expanded membership" and that he had been able to shift the party towards an "interventionist" economic policy and opposition to austerity, as well as its plan for a "green industrial revolution".
He was "desperately sad" about losing the 2019 election, in particular, but he believed the party was making an important contribution to the "national debate".
Asked if he had made any mistakes as leader, he said: "Of course! I'm a human. Of course I've made mistakes."
He said he had made appointments to his team that did not "work out".
"You give faith in people that don't necessarily return it too well, and you sometimes make judgement mistakes. We all do."
Asked if he had any advice for his successor, he said: "Spend time listening to people in all parts of the country, travel as much as you can around the country as I have done."
And he urged whoever takes over the reins to "recognise the strengths and the good in people, and that we can bring about a decent better society in the great traditions of socialism and the Labour Party".
The Labour leader told the BBC he had been "denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford" to fix social wrongs.
But he said he had been vindicated by the vast sums the government was spending on the current crisis.
The Tories now realised they had to "invest in the state", he added.
In an interview with BBC's Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, Mr Corbyn said that the country had been "ill-prepared" for the coronavirus pandemic because of "10 years of austerity, of underfunding the National Health Service and underfunding our benefit system".
He said the government had been "shocked" by the national emergency, as their "instincts" were for "free market economics and the small state".
"They've now suddenly realised that they have to spend money to invest in the state, as we have always said as a party, and they have come around to a lot of that position."
Mr Corbyn said the government had also failed to realise how many people were in "insecure" employment in the UK when they drew up their response to the emergency.
But he believed that the pandemic had changed the political landscape forever.
"I think our society and our politics will never be the same again, because we have suddenly realised as a society and a community, we need everybody - and everybody has a contribution to make."
Mr Corbyn has just over a week to go as Labour leader, after four-and-half years in the job.
The result of the contest to replace him - between Sir Keir Starmer, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy - will be announced on Saturday, 4 April.
Mr Corbyn decided to stand down after Labour's heavy defeat in December's general election, which came two years after a narrower defeat at the polls.
He said: "I did everything I possibly could to win both elections and to say to the people of this country, the only way our society can come together is if we're prepared to invest.
"I was denounced as somebody that wanted to spend more money than we could possibly afford, in order to right the social wrongs of this country.
"I didn't think that it would take only three months for me to be proved absolutely right by the amount of money that government is now prepared to put in - and Parliament has just voted through - to deal with the coronavirus crisis.
"So this is a change in our politics, which the coronavirus crisis has actually meant in every country in the world.
"There's suddenly a realisation that we're only as healthy as the safety of our neighbour."
Labour fought the 2019 election on a promise to increase spending on the NHS and other public services and bring rail, water, electricity and broadband into public ownership.
Mr Corbyn blamed the party's defeat on divisions over Brexit, which led to a vote at Labour's conference to negotiate a new deal with the EU and then put it to another referendum.
That policy "clearly did not win the election", Mr Corbyn told Laura Kuenssberg.
But he added: "I did my best to bring people together on the principles that in or out of the EU, we needed to have an investment-led economy, we needed to be anti-austerity."
Asked if his leadership was also to blame, he said he had received "unprecedented level of abuse from the mainstream media of me personally", which he said had to be "factored in".
Reflecting on his time as leader, he said was "proud" of Labour's "hugely expanded membership" and that he had been able to shift the party towards an "interventionist" economic policy and opposition to austerity, as well as its plan for a "green industrial revolution".
He was "desperately sad" about losing the 2019 election, in particular, but he believed the party was making an important contribution to the "national debate".
Asked if he had made any mistakes as leader, he said: "Of course! I'm a human. Of course I've made mistakes."
He said he had made appointments to his team that did not "work out".
"You give faith in people that don't necessarily return it too well, and you sometimes make judgement mistakes. We all do."
Asked if he had any advice for his successor, he said: "Spend time listening to people in all parts of the country, travel as much as you can around the country as I have done."
And he urged whoever takes over the reins to "recognise the strengths and the good in people, and that we can bring about a decent better society in the great traditions of socialism and the Labour Party".
he was right in as much as we were told his plans were unaffordable - it seems they were and much more
Mar 27, 2020 -- 10:20AM, GAZO wrote:
saddo,was he asked a question ?
saddo had little or no interest in understanding the context of the article, nor did he bother to actually read it.
He simply jumped on a headline, using it an excuse (not that he ever really needs one) to launch yet another bitter and vindictive assault on someone who has views that differs from his.
That's unusual Angus has not cut and paste from the Virtue Signallers Gazette.
Corbyn has his faults but on this topic he was correct.
Just to clarify Boris wanted to increase NHS spending to £149bn by 2023-24.
Corbyn was pledging to increase it to £155bn by 2023-24.
So Corbyn wanted a 2%-3% difference.
This crisis is likely to cost hundreds and hundred of billion not the £6bn in 4 years times Corbyn was offering for the NHS.
To have a health service on
Corbyn was pledging to increase it to £155bn by 2023-24.
So Corbyn wanted a 2%-3% difference.
This crisis is likely to cost hundreds and hundred of billion not the £6bn in 4 years times Corbyn was offering for the NHS.
To have a health service on
Didnt see too many of his Neighbours out clapping , Probably trying to avoid him ..
This guy from the Lancet was on question time last night castigating the government for not doing enough but in January he tweeted.
Richard Horton
A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity. There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language.
All these talking heads in the media don't have a clue .
Richard Horton
A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity. There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language.
All these talking heads in the media don't have a clue .
And any government having to decide which of these 'experts'' to follow has an unenviable task.
Cornyn supporters trying to justify the ira,Hezbollah,Venezuelan supporting tramps legacy.
Imagine lacking the intelligence to differentiate between times of plenty and times of plague.
Imagine lacking the intelligence to differentiate between times of plenty and times of plague.
In all likelihood the NHS would have been marginally better prepared for this crisis if Labour had won - I'm a Corbyn fan, but he also mentioned using our Emergency fund to address the WASPI pensioners - it didnt look like an emergency at the time, and it definitely doesnt look like an emergency now. Not a time for party politics really, not too sure why he said anything (but he is the leader of Labour I suppose)
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