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geoff m
21 Mar 20 09:56
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So if yer earning around £3k per month self employed and work ceased due to Corona yer entitled to around £360 pm JSA/U.C
but if yer employed
earning £3k per month  you will get 80% circa £2,400pm

Something slipped thro net here.

There are bound to be anomalies but not thought this thro.
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Report Akak March 21, 2020 9:05 AM GMT
I can understand people earning £3k per month will be important personnel to company's. But why the need to pay them so much more than the self employed? Its  not as if they can move to alternative employment. It looks like we are not all in this together.
Report AFTERTHOUGHT March 21, 2020 9:05 AM GMT
If you are unemployed and cannot be arsed to work you remain on full pay
Report Akak March 21, 2020 9:11 AM GMT
The post refers to self employed, who were earning £3k per month. Fook the lazy that don't want to work.
Report FOYLESWAR March 21, 2020 9:13 AM GMT
discrimination
Report saddo March 21, 2020 9:17 AM GMT
No mention of savings here, I assumed you'd get nowt if you have savings?
Report dave1357 March 21, 2020 9:18 AM GMT
if you have savings you get the forthcoming hyper inflation to render your savings worthless hth
Report saddo March 21, 2020 9:19 AM GMT
Jokes apart, am I correct?
Report FOYLESWAR March 21, 2020 9:20 AM GMT
depends where you have your savings ,under the bed o.k ,in the bank shyte street
Report dave1357 March 21, 2020 9:24 AM GMT
saddo if you are claiming a benefit then the benefit rules apply.  I think the govt is going to invent some sort of scheme for self employed/gig economy workers.
Report jucel69 March 21, 2020 9:26 AM GMT
TBF self employed people have a lot of perks regarding fiddling tax, VAT and expenses.
I used to see all kinds of stuff when I was an accountant.
You can tell the client but most of the time they don't listen

The caveat was something like - these accounts are based on information and explanations supplied from you to us. We are not responsible blah blah blah
Report saddo March 21, 2020 9:28 AM GMT
Ta, it would have to go on a long time to make me bother. Been SE nearly 40 years, had some tough/ill times but never claimed owt xcept family credit, when my girl was younger. Wouldn't know where to start.
Report jucel69 March 21, 2020 9:28 AM GMT
when you are paye you haven't got a chance to do anything
Report geoff m March 21, 2020 9:29 AM GMT
£16k plus savings  yer fecked NIL/NADA/ZILCH
under universal credit

Yet employed yer could have a million in the bank and £3 K per month job and still get £2,400 pm.
Report saddo March 21, 2020 9:30 AM GMT
That's how it sounded to me geoff.
Report jucel69 March 21, 2020 9:31 AM GMT
one thing for sure the scammers and the fraudster will have a field day
This has been rushed through

Uncle Abdul and pals will be laughing their bollocks off
Report geoff m March 21, 2020 9:31 AM GMT
apply online gov.uk not as bad as it seems. you will probably have to jump thro a few hoops later to evidence yer looking for a job etc
Report 1st time poster March 21, 2020 10:50 AM GMT
a couple on a means tested pension get a minimum of somewhere around 234 quid to .ive on,if they want to try and help self employed why don't they relax job seekers allowance rules/universal credit and through the benefits system lift the minimum payment to 234 for a period of time,governments have loads of ways through all tax systems to get it back over time at a later date if they choose,
this will bring out the worst in individuals and companies trying to get their hands on a handout,if your getting at at least 80% of you wages, no work expenses travel food,etc no pubs etc to go to,maybe no child care cots why would you need a mortgage holiday for example
as an aside what category of worker would I be in
I consider myself unemployed or one  of pritti,s 8 million economically inactive
1 work 3/4  days a month everty month for around 3 years 30 to 40 hrs,and about 6 full weeks shutdowns in between
I work for an engineering recruitment service
I,m paye and land roughly around the 12/13 grand tax bracket and claim any tax  back at end of year
I pay NI,
I never get p45,it just rolls on
none of the above  is guaranteed I get a text a few days before going this sun,mon,tues
am I considered
part time worker
zero hrs contract
just a worker who doesn't get guaranteed hrs
just a
Report GoBallistic March 21, 2020 11:29 AM GMT
As one of the self-employed, isn't this the risk we take ?  If I'm not able to work for whatever reason (illness, injury etc) then I don't get paid, end of.  And that's the way it should be.  I could get a PAYE job instead and have some protection but I'd rather not. 

On the other hand, paying PAYE folks 80% of their salary to not work would be a joke.  I can only assume that this will mostly not actually happen once people read the smallprint or maybe the country is already bankrupt and they are just funding this with invented money
Report 1st time poster March 21, 2020 11:32 AM GMT
yes but your losing work for adhering to a governments request in a health emergency no ones fault
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