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16 Mar 20
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daft question but wont the companies currently involved in the making of these and component parts have all sorts of patents etc which prevent joie bloggs and dads army knocking them out, once in the market wont the current producers just be blown out in the future
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rolls Royce one of the companies mentioned currently 20% down today on stockmarket today,obviously nobody expecting any answers there
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Could always lease some from the Chinese if they can spare them now they are on top of their epidemic?
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imo ive worked in engineering most of my life and in the car industry and making this sort of equipment in car factorys to me is a no go.different types of engineering ventalaters would be made under strict regs and enviroment,ie clean room ect.if it was for making pots and pans yes but ventalators a no go.sorry for spelling.lets hope mankind can beat this.be safe everyone
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Rolls Royce do aircraft and missiles etc . They have clean rooms .
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JCB asked as well, hard to imagine anyone there having the foggiest idea how to make ventilators, but needs must.
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patenht,id,tech copy rights etc
but did hear theirs a system where worked carried out by contracted staff/companies but all under the name of registered ownership so back to tory,s spending 10 years laughing at NHS PROCUTREMENT PRACTICES regards light bulbs,glove,s pens etc, what will the price of these machines be now if any can be made as compared to what you could have paid 2 years ago, or before xmas , 10 fold,12 fold etc |
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The basic mechanical functions are probably not that difficult, it's the computerised controls and gizmos that will be difficult to replicate. In an emergency situation basic ventilators 30 years behind the current ones will be better than nothing.
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A ‘pandemic ventilator ‘ $500 a unit
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Can be mass produced quickly and easily
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Needs must. Pity they didn't store all the old ones the new ones replaced.
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You do t use computerised controls , no need for them
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Some countries such as America have stored thousands of old ones
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I'm sure they have control panels with a load of buttons to fine tune and monitor everything.
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Yes they cost 25,000 dollars a unit
The pandemic ventilator was designed for just such a scenario as now , in fact worse than now Nuclear or biological or chemical attack A mass casualty situation |
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usa have over 151,000 new ones, don't think they,ll be worried about recycling old ones,
we have 12 emergency beds per 100,000 people germany has 29 per 100,000 Italy had 17 per 100,000 but sunak tells the world we have best nhs in world |
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Are you including private capacity in those figures 1sttp? NHS has took over them now I think.
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In the U.K. we usually manage to muddle through because we are inventive and creative and resourceful in our way of THINKING
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blank, their beds that would be used by private patients if nhs patients are using private beds ,when private patients get ill threym,ll have to use nhs beds ,or is our modelling that great we,ve decided only the plebs will get infected
sum net gain nil, BUT HANDJOB hancock, the man who convinced you 20,000 new nurses was 50,000 because he wasn't sacking 30,000 ,might convince the lemmings otherwise |
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I get that. But wondered if the figure of 12 emergency beds per 100,000 was only the NHS and not full UK capacity. How much difference it makes and whether it brings us in-line with those other countries, I don't know.
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I'd like to ask how many patients recover if they're in need of intensive care?
Because I think we're overrating what the health service is capable of. They can certainly help their breathing, but is that enough? Many no hopers will be taking up resources, which is how it works when things are transparent. |
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yes I would imagine nhs,but does germany for eg exclude private beds,
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G-Tech the hoover company are ready to start making 100 a day if approved. https://www.gtech.co.uk/ventilators
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Thought he said 1000 a day
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Didn't see that. If they have other companies making the parts there should be no limit really, only UK machining and material capacity which should be plenty.
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Nissan halts car making in Sunderland and may make ventilators
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We will all have one soon. With car plants I think they just assemble things and others make the parts, no different here though, if they have the parts and the drawing they should be able to assemble them on a mass scale.
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