Virus conspiracy thread.

Is the Coronavirus the biggest Psychological Operation since 9/11 ?

Possibly.

Now with any subject of this magnitude you have to be aware that if you air your views in a public arena you will doubtless be subject to written abuse , derogatory comments and accusations of being a advocate of all alternative hypotheses !!!

When on these pages i do try to only comment on topics which i have a reasonable comprehension of, however, i will admit to being drawn in to the occasional discussion which i should really avoid but my undeniable childish traits simply drag me in

I am also fully aware that there are many posters who are deeply offended by my contributions !!

This is unavoidable IF i choose to comment truthfully and without fear of being lambasted.

Following a life changing illness I had to change my lifestyle. I suffered a  99% blockage of the  (M1* the doctors referenced it as this) artery going north from my heart and i should have been a gonner.

I had major surgery and survived although to this day from that fateful day i have not taken the prescribed medication as i do not believe it to be beneficial. My choice.

My diet has changed ( a little ) and i do not drink as much ( probably too much still ) but i do take exercise daily which is primarily in the form of walking for approx 3 miles .

I am still here 8 years on

Now why do i spout all of this nonsense ?

Well prior to my illness i had discovered that one of my associates had a partner who practised in the medical profession. I never pursued the finer details of what this actually entailed until it became a topic of discussion after my problems.

It is true to say this series of discussions changed my life.

Now i cannot disclose full details of this person but what i can say is she was advised it was in her best interests to stop practising and treating clients in the UK.

So she did and now has clinics in other countries where it is safer for her to work as she " treats " the right people who can afford her the ability to work without prejudice.

When i discovered what she did I was gobsmacked, however, i was presented with the evidence to substantiate the work scope and it was undeniable.

It changed everything for me. Far from making me an expert on anything I just decided to use my spare time to question everything which is spouted in relation to a key event in society. Look for evidence and find the correct and most reliable sources for helping me to seek the truth.

Regarding matters relating to major medical issues I have no hesitation in recommending Jon Rappoport as one of the most reliable sources I have discovered. He is incredible.

There are so many "experts" that if you don't know where to turn you just end up on the  "merrygoround" of guesswork/nonsense !!

Anyway as i have mentioned b4 on these pages consider everything you read, hear and see, but believe nothing unless you can prove it with your own research and comprehension.

Do not believe anything I have written above if you are interested just carry out your own investigation. Think deeply about everything you are being told !!

No apologies for including Jons latest blog entry here as he states it is one of the most important he has written regarding the Corona Virus and please bear in mind if he is proven incorrect he will go back and address his own work if he has got it wrong !!!!

Coronavirus: what real science would look like, if it existed
by Jon Rappoport

March 10, 2020


This is one of the most important articles I’ve written on the current “epidemic.” (full archive here https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/ )

When you look at the justification for all the lunatic measures being taken to “stem the tide” of the coronavirus, you come to the simplicity of CASES.

How many cases are there? How many people are “infected?”

And the answer to that comes from what?

From tests. From diagnostic tests.

Of course, some people are ridiculously labeled “cases” without tests. I’ve explained that nonsense in other articles.

Outside of China, the most widely used test is called the PCR. It must be done with tremendous care, because contamination with irrelevant microbes and cellular material can yield a misleading and absurd result.

The PCR, it is claimed, can take a tiny, tiny bit of material from a patient and blow it up many times, so it can be identified. “This is the coronavirus. This patient is infected.”

Not only that, the test’s proponents assert that, quite easily, the PCR can also determine the AMOUNT of virus in the patient’s body. Why is that vitally important? Because, to even begin talking about the patient ever getting sick, he must have millions and millions of coronavirus actively replicating in his body.

There are people (and I’m one of them) who challenge the claim that the PCR can show how much virus is in the patient’s body. The experts try to brush us off—we don’t understand the intricacies of the test, it’s highly technical, we’re not qualified to make a judgment, etc.

I’ve been searching for a way around this futile argument. In the process, I’ve discovered something important about the PCR. I SEE NO EVIDENCE THAT THE ACCURACY OF THE TEST HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN.

Let me explain. You bring your car to a good repair shop. The mechanics hook it up to a device and run a test to diagnose what’s causing the car to stall. Who says their tests are accurate? At some point in the past, these diagnostic procedures have been vetted, to make sure they work properly.

And sure enough, when the mechanics say, “We’ve found the problem,” and when they correct that problem, you drive the car and it doesn’t stall anymore. This is called a real-life result.

This is not the situation re the PCR. Its proponents claim it can count how much virus is in a patient’s body—how much of a particular virus. But where is the proof, in real-life terms, that the PCR can do that? How was that proof ever established?

When I say proof, I don’t mean technical mumbo-jumbo. I’m not referring to the highly dense language these scientists use among themselves. I’m talking about real live human patients, and results.

After all, if the PCR is being used to diagnose people, and if the results are being used to count the number of coronavirus cases in various countries, and if the number of cases forms the basis for, say, locking down the whole of Italy in a mass quarantine…THE TEST IS IMPORTANT, WOULDN’T YOU SAY?

I have seen no wide-ranging proof that the PCR was ever checked properly, when it was first introduced, to show it could do what researchers say it can do.

WHO TESTED THE TEST?

I have come up with a process—a simple process—which will check the veracity of the PCR. It should have been carried out decades ago. The fact that it wasn’t is an enormous scandal.

Here it is.

From a hundred patients, very small tissue samples are taken. The PCR lab people don’t take the samples. They don’t ever see the patients or know who they are.

The lab professionals run these hundred samples through the PCR, obtain results, and then report: what virus did they find in each case, and how much of that virus did they find?

Let’s say, in six instances, the lab techs claim they found a great amount of virus in the patients.

Well, those patients should be sick.

Are they? ARE THEY?

“We’ve determined that patients 4, 9, 32, 54, 65, and 86 all have a huge amount of virus in their bodies.”

“Interesting. Thanks. Let’s see. Hmm. Turns out these people are fit as a fiddle. Not sick. I guess your test didn’t work. It’s a flop.”

Or maybe the test does work. The six patients are sick. LET’S FIND OUT. IN THE WORLD, NOT IN JOURNALS.

That’s what I mean by real-life results. No jive, no tap dancing.

There is more. This experiment with the hundred patients? It should be done, not just once, but many times. A hundred patients here at this facility, a hundred patients there at that facility. Thirty or forty different facilities, and thirty or forty different sets of a hundred patients. It should be done by independent scientists without conflicts of interest.

It should have been done decades ago. I see no evidence that it was.

THE TEST WAS NEVER PROPERLY TESTED. A GIANT SCANDAL.

Think about what that means.

Think it through.

Trace all the implications.

For example, imagine you’re the political leader of a country, with 100 “reported cases of the coronavirus.” Are you going to lock it down? Are you?

Think about everything that’s happening now in the world. Use your intelligence.

THINK IT THROUGH.

Don’t jump on the fear bandwagon. Don’t jump on the “scientific” b.s. bandwagon.

Use your mind.

You’re interested in scandals? I’ve just presented one. It’s blaring with a thousand trumpets, right out in the open.

No one has to comment as you all have your own way of comprehending what is going on all around you. If your views are different then so be it. For those who simply want an alternative view then just monitor jon's blog entries. He will get to the truth. Although it may never make the public arena

Economic considerations?

Short term or long term?

Prevention is always better than cure. But they're obviously not trying very hard to contain it.

To repeat what someone else has pointed out - ''if we look to who benefits from a crisis, sometimes we can find the reason for it''

There's no delicate way to put this, but the elderly sick population are a growing burden, not only on health services around the world, but on society in general.
And they're the most vulnerable here.

That's another good question iawn.

I ask the question not just in the absolute sense but also in the context of your theory about the elderly, sick population.

Facts - I don't think that's true of Austria, Israel, Czech Republic, Australia and others...

Even if I'm wrong, the measures these countries have taken seem to be working.

Best one yet is Aresnal being off but our (Forest) game still hasn't

Iawm

Not in Italy

How can it be working when its spreading and everyone who was on lockdown fled to other parts of the country?

Coronavirus: Number of cases in UK reaches 456.

A sizeable jump with 4/5 weeks or so left until it peaks.

Piers Morgan spitting feathers on GMTV tomorrow.

Who's going to suffer? us, we will be locked down and told we can't go anywhere

People are stupid

Either they are waiting for it to spread so they can implement max travel restrictions and basically move towards their coveted universal basic income

Or they are testing the waters and Italy is their dummy run/Guinea pig

I mean education centres, schools and unis/colleges are being forced to put posters up regarding this "virus", and the tutors/teachers are being forced to "educate" people on it as well

"the war on terror" now seems a distant memory, Terry

No mention of ISIS and "terror" nowadays, all the "terror attacks" have vanished as well

And this will as well

Johnson has been found out by the virus. His make the rules as it happens polic is too late in this instance.

Putting economy and money above health in the first instance. But my theory of him is that he is as close to a dictator we have had since World War 2. This is the perfect chance to bring euthanasia for the costly health service as he can get. He can make it look like he is caring but the long term benefits to the NHS are surely at the forefront of his policy.

To have no checks on people returning from aboard is a shocking failure of the government.

The failure of Brexit and the lack of a trade plan can also be covered up by this as the British economy declines quicker than any other except Japan. 5 years of this too go before people realise the mistakes of their votes for removing foreigners and electing a dictator out of his depth.

Looks like Doris may have passed the virus on to her daughter (an employee ta boot).

the who are a joke, this has obviously been a pandemic for some time and yet they are only just daring to use that word.

leif on one thread i think i saw you mention a peak in four weeks (i think), where did you get that information from? tia.

Countries were bound to react in different ways. Different cultures lead to differing responses.

The coverage is odd which is my beef. No context or perspective is given. They say there’s no immunity to the virus yet the young aren’t getting it and most who do, recover easily. So
the human body is dealing with it very well.

The viirus can only become international with air travel. Sports events cancelled yet airports are business as usual. Staggering!