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Charlie
28 Feb 20 17:04
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My neighbour has complained that my leylandii are too high and are blocking light to her garden. The council seem to agree with her even though it's my house bought and paid for. Her's is not a council house and non of the houses in the street are or have ever been.

My house is a semi and it's the neighbour from the attached house who has complained. The leylandii are at the bottom of my garden so only the width of them really affects her garden. Gardens face south as she looks from her garden the trees are to the east.

Smallish garden which is about 11 metres by 7 metres.

The bloke from the council said I have to reduce them to four metres which would only leave stumps.


The regs he quoted are:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9408/hedgeheight.pdf


According to my calculations I think they could be 8-10 metres which I'd be happy with.

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By:
Injera
When: 28 Feb 20 17:13
Charlie - as she looks out, the trees are to her left along your southern boundary?

How tall are they?
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 20 17:13
Cupressocyparis Leylandii - To quote that great gardener Christopher Lloyd when asked about them - "Seen everywhere, belong nowhere".  This tree is just not suitable for garden hedging.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:17

Feb 28, 2020 -- 5:13PM, Injera wrote:


Charlie - as she looks out, the trees are to her left along your southern boundary? How tall are they?


Yes to her left and along my southern boundary. Height I'm not user about but very, very high.

By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:19

Feb 28, 2020 -- 5:13PM, blackbarn wrote:


Cupressocyparis Leylandii - To quote that great gardener Christopher Lloyd when asked about them - "Seen everywhere, belong nowhere".

By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:21
Text went missing; short version was I agree but were then when I bought the house.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:24
*were there when I bought the house
By:
Injera
When: 28 Feb 20 17:29
20 feet is plenty. It would keep her happy and you would get more light too.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 20 17:29
Charlie - That they were already there is irrelevant.  Sound like the council guy is trying to resolve the issue by giving you guidance. If he issues you with a remedial notice you can be fined if you do not comply AND you will need to ensure that the hedge is kept trimmed to the required height all the time you are there. You'll be helped with that though because Leylandii dislike hard pruning and do not regrow from old wood.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 20 17:33
Just thought, with any luck if you hard prune the top AND she (as is her right) cuts off everything that overhangs her garden, they will probably die anyway. By the way she needs to give you all the trimmings.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:39
Injera and blackbarn
I'm not arguing they need reducing because they do. I'm just trying to work out the required height. The council bloke was ok after initially being snotty and threatening.

I'm awaiting a quote from a company that has seen the requirements. I'm finding the definition of a hedge difficult because it's not parallel with her garden it's at the bottom of my garden and her garden is to the right so the trees are not parallel.

The bloke who is going to give me a quote did mention that height wise they wont grow upwards but should grow laterally which I'm not sure helps.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:42
Height wise if lopped.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 17:45
blackbarn
It wasn't a remedial notice it was a complaint from the neighbor that he had to respond to.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 20 17:55
Charlie - I understand that. My point was that he is trying to resolve it WITHOUT a remedial notice. He'll probably issue one if you don't comply.
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 28 Feb 20 17:56
Try threatening or intimidating her.
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 18:09

Feb 28, 2020 -- 5:55PM, blackbarn wrote:


Charlie - I understand that. My point was that he is trying to resolve it WITHOUT a remedial notice. He'll probably issue one if you don't comply.


I think he is but trying to work out the legal requirements.

By:
Charlie
When: 28 Feb 20 18:11

Feb 28, 2020 -- 5:56PM, Richie_Burnett wrote:


Try threatening or intimidating her.


This is England Richie not sheep shagging land. We're more civilized.

By:
Injera
When: 28 Feb 20 18:28
I’m sure you can reach a good compromise Charlie. They sound huge so at 20-30ft she should be happy.

(Keep the council out of it!)
By:
Torquemada
When: 28 Feb 20 20:32
Take a few feet off the bottom.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Feb 20 21:44
Richie Burnett - "Try threatening or intimidating her"

What kind of person would post this?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 28 Feb 20 23:30
I had a next-door neighbour once whose leylandii trees had been a source of bitter dispute between her and her other neighbour for years.

The feud only ended when one of the trees fell over and crushed the owner's car.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Feb 20 10:18
Ugly trees, not great for plants or grass, rip ‘em out!

Seriously though there must be some sort of guide height. I would investigate more.

If you have a small garden I would rather a big wall or fence with trellis and some lovely big flowering plants or bushes graduated downwards towards your view. Much nicer to look at than dull and dark green screen.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 29 Feb 20 10:41
No one has a right to light, i thought
By:
saddo
When: 29 Feb 20 14:28
You earn a right to light in a room with a window after 20 years of habitation, it will be probably different with gardens.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Feb 20 16:00
This is up to the council...you have to appeal to them

Does not sound like your neighbour will back down
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 29 Feb 20 16:08

Feb 28, 2020 -- 9:44PM, blackbarn wrote:


Richie Burnett - "Try threatening or intimidating her"What kind of person would post this?


Was jk, I've known and respected Charlie's posts and honesty for a number of years.

By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Feb 20 16:14
I believe you Richie.....thousands wouldntHappy
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Feb 20 19:32
Richie is a good bloke and I'll stand up for for him any day.

The height is, apparently, given in the link I gave in OP but requires calculating which is what I asked for. I've re-estimated the garden as 20 metres long.   

I have three trees at the bottom of the garden which are the problem. It sounds ridiculous but I can, according the the link I gave, cut two of them down because a hedge constitutes two or more trees (which have to be evergreen). If I cut two down and leave one the the neighbour would be no better off.

There is a bit of history with the neighbour which I wont go into now.
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 29 Feb 20 19:52
Love
By:
Charlie
When: 09 Mar 20 21:22
Agreed on contract to take all three of them down. Cost is £3100, including VAT, which I thought was steep but after three quotes seems the going rate. Price also includes chopping down a couple of wild trees, tidying shrubs, general cleaning up and taking everything away.

It's apparently quite a tricky job because there's no easy access and they have to climb the trees, cut them and manually lower stuff down (I have a garage underneath them).

The bloke from the council was useless and I'm sure he didn't know how to calculate the required height because when I asked him how he had calculated it he came up with some nonsense which wasn't anything like that given in the regs he quoted.
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Mar 20 18:17
bloody hell three grand! the worlds gone mad
By:
saddo
When: 10 Mar 20 18:23
Well done charlie, in the main they are a fookin menace.
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Mar 20 18:28
stupid neighbour doesn't realise that it is trees that distinguish upmarket neighbourhoods from concrete slums
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Mar 20 18:30
the working classes destroy everything given enough time Sad
By:
moisok
When: 10 Mar 20 20:41
anyone with a hedge or tree height of 6ft 6ins   should be dealt with

what was it that hitler said about apart height

no that was those wonderful people at the cape

happy days
By:
Charlie
When: 10 Mar 20 20:48
The working class are the backbone of this and most countries. I class myself as working class but other people would categorise me as middle class. I'm proud of my family roots who worked hard often in really sh!tty jobs (miners, nail makers, brick makers, welders, furnace workers, moulders, etc). They were the salt of the earth and many of them died defending this country. Don't slag off the working class.
By:
Charlie
When: 10 Mar 20 20:50

Mar 10, 2020 -- 8:41PM, moisok wrote:


anyone with a hedge or tree height of 6ft 6ins   should be dealt withwhat was it that hitler said about apart heightno that was those wonderful people at the capehappy days


Moron.

By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Mar 20 20:59
I,m working class also Charlie, I know what they,re like
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Mar 20 21:05
the sight of some neighbours needs blocking out by tall trees , in my humble opinion
By:
moisok
When: 10 Mar 20 21:06
moron blocks out light with high trees headline 
a KHANTian of the highest order
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