Killing in the Name of Allah

I'm not Allah, but if I were I'd disown any of my follower of bringing my name into disrepute and shame; to maim or kill is an insult to any founder or leader of a religion. Nothing, but only a screwed-up or deranged utter coward would seek this route.

All brainwashed b0llox anyway, like all religions

Well I would not disagree with that dambuster

imposiible23

I have on other threads queried whether this is over religion....I think it is being used

It is the situation in the Middle East which I feel is the cause

I will watch it, if anybody wants to kill me, I want to know why, that is all

Of course it's merely an excuse for the political interference by superpowers in the Middle East and some Islamic parts of Asia as acting in the in the name of a religion rather than for a specific course (usually associated with activists eg Greenham Common/Heathrow expansion) would attract the similarly minded/screwed-up money-poor, time-rich individuals.

The full-scale military and armed conflict arms of these cowards were deterred and defeated in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq with some of their British wives seeking to return to the UK after being abandoned in camps.

the Crusades killed for religion impossible123?

They wanted to free Jerusalem for Christians.

They also sacked Constantinople and attacked Cyprus....not too good at map reading perhaps

Your knowledge of history puts me to shame. I can only deal with the present or since 9/11. Whatever, a cowardice act maiming or killing innocent bystanders on the streets in the UK.

Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq

are not in Europe and certainly not Britain, impossible123

and a very long way from either Heathrow or Greenham common????

Just a reference to the defeat of their "brothers" at war there. The streets of the UK are easier paths for some of these cowards without the gonads for Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq.

I see impossible23..apologies

Frankly they will achieve nothing using terrorism...they want to make a difference, then use politics.

Is it possible the Musso’s learned it from the Christians?

God is on our side and all that!

For the benefit of us plebs up north... Serious question. What's London Live?

As for all the Shyte About history WALOFS , They have read the Instructions they Hate us  F>A to do with history

The people want an Islamic World ,or a certain Percentage of them do ....

mecca...thanks for that question, as I was about to ask the same!

Nonsuch available here in North Yorks....

Pleased to say that, for now, we are spared this evil!

^^
No idea either only ever see it on Freeview Channel 8 (I think). Maybe it only concerns events relating to London only.

Reported suicide bombers wearing explosive vests were ordinary members or foot soldiers of this cowardice group. But, their leaders were either captured (alive) or extinguished by drone incendiaries. So, why did they not wear explosive vests and self-destruct instead rather than be captured alive?

I've always believed martyrdom is a noble thing with them. Or is it all just a convenient instrument to facilitate their objective? Or does it only apply to foot soldiers not the leaders?

History in context.
The difference is that we have moved on from the dark ages while some are stuck in them.

I think human beings are very violent by nature....regardless of religion.

Jesus advocated peace  and turn the other cheek.

Yet Christian societies are about the most violent of all, two world wars attest to that.


Still I do want to see violence used on any side in this argument.

There a lot of Muslims in this country, there are Muslim MP's....so they should use politics

It is slower but a good better for everyone.

What good does it do these Muslims to kill themselves killing us or spend the remainder of their life in prison….not a lot I should

think.

Both sides need to be looking at a peaceful resolution to this

A French film

A women discussing why her son joined Al Qaeda..made in 2005

Her son was not involved in 9/11 but may have well have been

There is no obligation in Islam for Muslims to attack and kill us

Misguided by the uneducated/insular/hatred-minded imams who are allowed to operate in some mosques by their employers/sponsors. Even in the early 80's I was told by my Muslim newsagent that in Southall they played a game called "Spot the English". I also witnessed him selling cigarettes to an under-aged white lad. When I asked why (?) he said one less white on the road (jokingly), but to me that comment was chilling even then.

Couldn't watch the documentary, but It's on You Tube, which is preferable anyway to me, as I can skim through if needed!

When it comes to Israel, they place few limits on attacking Jews

that is because of the Palestinian situation

“ They “ don’t hate us

Iranians in particular are a delightful and hospitable people.

The ones that do hate us are just the same types we have to put up with in this country who “ hate them “

You know who they are, they are on here salivating in their hate and filth.

the politicos in those countries urge the people on and to hate

they love to whip up the mob

it is in the book

I am not saying anything

I know your views moisok...fair enough

Too many immigrants were allocated to Newham...I think I saw a program on it.

some iranians do not hate the 'west'  in fact some are desperate to get here - what does that say?

those who know Iran also understand that many 'middle class' admire and desire many aspects of western society but are prevented from attaining that by their mullahs/rev guard etc

There are good and bad aspects in western societies similarly societies elsewhere and, none is perfect or suitable for everyone. However, if one adopts a new country and/or a new religion for whatever reason/s one has to be more acceptable and tolerant of others in the host country, and not just totally preoccupied solely on one's only as if one is in one's original country; one needs to adapt, and lives accordingly as we cannot have everything our way.

But, one must not impose one's belief, culture and tradition on one's adopted country otherwise it's prudent to decamp.

Is that why we gave back the Empire?

one will be imposing it - I can assure you  - it is what the good book people do - it is all there for you to read 

but also you can see where it has been done in practice

Another batch of em jailed in Leeds today for raping kids. Next trial in the long running series due soon.

cave dwellers like saddo don't see the big picture here

submission is all

hugs and prayer matts all round

There are some intelligent Muslims we can discuss things with.

We are going to have to share the country with them whether we like it or not. They are not going anywhere.

Of course there are problems between us, which do need resolving, and we must continue working on this.


Anyway we might need the book ourselves one day

you never know??????

they will relish having a discourse with you uble

you will make a greate stooge  - best of luck

grate or even great

We will have to talk to them some time

unless we want to go on hating forever



After todays trial at Leeds perhaps today is not the day

the Muslims have let me down there...

although it is only a minority of Muslims who do this...I accept even that is too much

It may only be a minority of Muslims committing this vile crime in Leeds nevertheless, it's almost that community specific committing this crime. Obviously something is clearly amiss, and the British society together with the Muslims will need to understand why it happened, and a solution found to prevent a repeat in the near future. Otherwise, the unthinkable could happen eg an increase in hostility and distrust, and possibly retribution eventually.

But, whatever, the law must be applied without prejudice, and non-British born offenders deported post serving their sentences.

And what if the Police who did nothing while children were being raped?

The Councillors who told them not to do anything

The Social Workers who let the scumbags pick up children from care homes

Is it a Muslim problem?

Is there a Police problem?

And what about the Catholic Priests....are they secretly Muslims too?

First and foremost take the Catholic priests out of this discussion. What happened there (or by them) was vile too, and unforgivable. I hope the offenders get the appropriate sentences and just retributions in jails.

Similarly, the police who turned a blind eye will need to be censured, if found to be negligent for doing nothing or unwilling to act, apply the law to them too. The same goes to the social workers esp their bosses and group leaders, and bar them from their profession, if found negligent professionally.

Sometimes I wish some posters here could be more matured, and sufficiently adult to understand the gravity and possible repercussion of this vile crime perpetrated almost entirely by one minority group, and not bring similar vile crime committed by other sickos into the equation to perhaps marginalise the gravitas, and hideousness of such crime as those committed in Leeds.

What about stage hundreds of thousands or indeed millions of lives lost because of Western Governments. Governments voted for by us!

Do you think the rapes committed by Catholic Priests is not comparable to the rapes  committed by these monsters mainly from Pakistan?

Is one ok and the other not because it was perpetrated  by Muslims from a mainly backward area of Pakistan?

it would be a good idea to expand your reading, whispering

whispering whelk the peasant from Medway sticking up for the  pakiistani FILTH you traitor c***

Congratulations on taking the Crown from lfc

You indeed are now The Village Idiot

Insightful and eloquent as ever wounded brain!

I think "that" poster has yet to catch my drift ie not stick to the topic at hand rather than go off at a tangent (again). As such, 'ignore' is the best place for the poster otherwise "that" poster could introduce an ancient warrior/barbarian eg Kublai Khan into the mix.
Bye! Bye!

you have been warned continuously about the internecine war that exists between different clans

it isn't just the hatred of the west

It may only be a minority of Muslims committing this vile crime in Leeds nevertheless, it's almost that community specific committing this crime. Obviously something is clearly amiss, and the British society together with the Muslims will need to understand why it happened, and a solution found to prevent a repeat in the near future. Otherwise, the unthinkable could happen eg an increase in hostility and distrust, and possibly retribution eventually.

But, whatever, the law must be applied without prejudice, and non-British born offenders deported post serving their sentences.
impossible23

I agree with you totally impossible23. I wish they did not do it. It makes me defending them very hard

But I don't see sort of permanent war between us and the Muslims will do us any good

Because we are both here to stay

But I agree on the sex crimes issue the Muslims are going to have to do a lot better, although it is only a minority of them do this

We all need to try and get on however, no problemo with other minority groups except the one who chooses not to integrate; self-obsessed; live in clusters; not speak English; full of themselves; procreate to populate and dominate; repeatedly bleating Islamophobia; etc.

I was speaking to friends (Polish) of a friend - they dislike their ignorance, arrogance and dominance. They think this group thought they are the best, and superior (breed). Of course they are not, but merely insecure and ignorant.

And, this group had history eg in Kenya and Uganda. Which other minority in a foreign (adopted) country had experienced the same fate - not even the Chinese in Africa.

Never hear it discussed on radio Allah

after you they will fight with one another

thats true your my brother

They already are eg South Asians - they have been at it for decades. They dislike one another just as much as they dislike the locals except when it comes to competition for unskilled-employment.