January 2020 warmest on record: EU climate service

Scientists remind me of people who thought football started with the Premier League!
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football has always been around, but the quality has improved  substantially   with the PL  although obviosly it wasn't  from 1992 exactly ,it was a gradual process

terry ,climate boffins some years ago (10-12) predicted that by 2018  east anglia would take on more of a south west england climate  ...that is very mild winters  and cooler summers ,and also a bit cloudier .

UK generally cloudier summers and milder winters

They also said places like Paris with an oceanic climate similar to London  would take on a more semi- meditteranean type climate ,with the near continent getting sunnier hotter summers .

they were correct on the  lot ...this is why we are getting cloudier summers and Paris/Bonn/Frankfurt/Warsaw etc are getting hotter summers    ...climate change

also those near continental cities are now getting mild winters

Have you seen the next ten days for Stockholm,Sweden


5-7 c  ...the sort of mild winter temperatures you'd normally associate with cities in winter such as York,Leeds,Belfast,Edingburgh 

in the 80s winter in Stockholm meant persitently below freezing for months on end

Cities are expanding all the time so they’re bound to be warming up. The heat can’t escape.

Why does NO scientist or virtue signalling celebrity call for an immediate pause to house building?

we had houses in the 1980s

NYC ...next 10 days  ...12c  most days by the end of week

New York once had much colder winters than London terrence 

are you hearing me  ? 

The other day it was too cold for snow.

Impossible to get many to look beyond the end of their nose....even if some defo will be reincarnations of pinocchio

The climate always changes.. All this climate emergency bollox is just that bollox.

Send all those who want to make a protest on a one ticket journey to Wuhan. See how the f*** they get on there as those heavily industrialised areas are the best place to start their campaigns.

Those who want to sit around close to the H of P and jump on top of electric underground trains should all be rounded up and given the ticket with our blessing. Protest away.. Thanks for your efforts,, Now F*** O**.

Sunndalsora, a small town in western Norway registered 19 degrees Celsius (66 degrees Fahrenheit) last Thursday, a temperature never seen before in the Nordic country at this time of year.


19 degrees , in feb in Norway , quite abnormal imo but if theres a bit of frost in Cleethorpes no need to worry I guess

And still the climate deniers post crap. If you just go against tm, JWH, IT, Injera and moisok then you're on the correct track. They deny anything which makes sense.

they're manicas and lunatics of the highest order

They say there's a fine line between genius and insanity.

You've only got to be a tad out, and someone you think is mad can in fact be a genius.

And this is why you simply cannot take anything that Charlie says as being serious.

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One of the greatest speeches of all time by Greta. I applaud her


GRADE ONE GOON.

If he or any one of his cohorts call heads in a simple toss of a coin you can put your f***ing lot on the outcome being TAILS,

I never have any problem looking into any narrative they promote as i know they do not think critically and ignore factual observations which disrupt their beliefs.

#headbangbrickwall

FOR THE RECORD Charlie................... I will question anything which my research ( looking up )  has discovered is littered with lies and deceptions.

If that makes me a denier in your opinion then let it be so. A denier i will be

The Himalayan Mountains are home to the highest peak in Mount Everest at 29,029 feet, but also to the third largest deposit of ice and snow in the world, after Antarctica and the Arctic. Now the first complete study of this remote region reveals that its glaciers lost billions of tons of ice—equivalent to more than a vertical foot and half of ice each year—from 2000 to 2016.

That’s double the amount of melting that took place from 1975 to 2000, revealing that the ice loss is accelerating with rising temperatures. It’s also threatening water supplies for hundreds of millions of people downstream across much of Asia.


facts , not many parts of world that are immune to rising temps

Coach- "very mild winters" ffs you are joking now?

19 degrees in Norway last week terry

Great! Lower fuel bills and less oil/coal/wood/electric consumption.

Always an upside

Hello, 19 degrees but have you seen the pic? Whats that on the ground would you say,snow or frost?

Feb 5, 2020 -- 6:41PM, Charlie wrote:

And still the climate deniers post crap. If you just go against tm, JWH, IT, Injera and moisok then you're on the correct track. They deny anything which makes sense.

How remiss of me I forgot to include Drippin.

Very cold out tonight in southern England.

With frost in the morning said the weathergirl

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And still the climate deniers post crap. If you just go against tm, JWH, IT, Injera and moisok then you're on the correct track. They deny anything which makes sense.

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How silly.

Of course the climate is 'changing'.

I do not think anyone is disputing that the climate is forever changing.

We have different seasons. We have different natural events. We have massive population growth and immigration to the global north cities.

And because the climate is 'changing' (as it always has) the elites are cashing in.

Who is profiting from the electric car bubble? Who is profiting from the carbon tax credits? Are these same people darting around the world in private jets?

Ff so Terry

So actual evidence that last month was the warmest global January for a century +

Yet all that Terry cares about is if the nighttime temp in one tiny part of the planet is above or below freezing point.
Terry do you understand what global means? Any idea? Maybe could use some statistics to calculate a mean??. Sorry TM - no more clues.

How remiss of me I forgot to include Drippin.

Have I got to smack your bottom again Charlie?

You seem to be an expert chaz so you will know all about HAARP,why not enlighten people here who might know-over to you.

And you of course mex-come on I dare you

Come on TM

Just asking if you understand what the word "global" means?

Terry - for once in your lifetime use your brain - Come on I dare you

Feb 5, 2020 -- 8:18PM, Dr Crippen wrote:

How remiss of me I forgot to include Drippin.Have I got to smack your bottom again Charlie?

I dare say you're drippin at the thought. Get a tissue.

There are two reasons I know there is no climate change, going out first thing and reading your crap

You seem very bold tonight Charlie Chuck, you had a drink or something?

Thanks boys

Terry

A 6 year old knows the difference between "global " and your back garden. You seem to struggle.

You don't seem to understand the most basic point of the global warming theory yet you are convinced it is totally wrong.

What does "global" mean in the phrase "global warming " Terry. Come on , think hard Terry - I dare you.

Im going to call you NASA in future because there is Never A Straight Answer.

LOL racist are you for real

As Ms Swift would say
You never ever ever ever answer a question.
You never ever ever ever post a link.


Myself and Other people answer your questions (avec straight answers) they post links to back up their answers.

Terry - what do you believe "global " means?

when I was young I kept a fishing diary as that was my passion ..coarse fishing...in 1976 or 7 the entire Norfolk broads were frozen solid from first week in December until the freshwater close season on march the 14th...that was admittedly a harsh winter but it was by no means unheard of for the broads to freeze over for weeks at a time since...
terry you must have lived an inside life or be about 25 years of age to not know that our winters have gone...
I have always worked outdoors...I like our new mild winters...but I know what they were like...trying to get out onto the wash mudflats but having to cross dangerous huge ice chunks that had come down the rivers and washed up with the tide...it was just winter...now if you saw anything like that you would think we were going through an ice age

Terry - Are you still in the east of Sussex - Coastal South Downs Park area?

winter daytimes  in east angular used to be around 6c in the 1960s/70s terrence

now they average  almost 9c

that's pretty much the same temperauture as Turin and Marseille used to be on the northern med coast


not sure what it is in your back garden

you sure it's not the wind whipping across the fields making it appear colder as the land is very flat in your area

im not quite sure how anyone can still deny warming

cycle , climate , it doesn't really matter does it

last year there were buildings in England melting

OSLO  3c currently

the Norwegians want to know who has nicked their snow

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im not quite sure how anyone can still deny warming

cycle , climate , it doesn't really matter does it

last year there were buildings in England melting

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It is interesting how people approach this.

They are told the climate is 'warming' and then it is 'changing' and are willing to 20% extra on their energy bills to counter it - even if it means putting money into billionaire private jet using peoples' pockets.

At the same these people seem completely unconcerned that the population of many countries in Africa (and else where) will double in the next 50 years. If climate change really is man made why is there no concern from the radical left climate change cheerleaders about population growth?

where I am average is 2/3 jan and much same feb

mostly been 6/9 degrees , I think we are watching live the demise of winter as we knew it

as are scandanavia and prob more

The argument is whether man is the cause of climate change.

There seems to be an acceptance by many countries based on little evidence that he is, while the largest countries in the world producing the most emissions do not agree.

So the efforts of the UK to eliminate its emissions, which only amount to 1-2% of the world's total is futile.

ive already put up a couple of population threads insider

we cant feed the world at this moment in time without further speeding up climate , that is a fact

a recent study reckoned its possible to feed 10 billion , only if farming , eating habits etc change quickly

at this moment we can feed 2/3rds

that's the problem dr Crippen

china , india and usa wont play ball as there is money to be made

Yes hello,

They're not going to fall for something that can't be proven.

And the science isn't proven, they had to lie to the people to get it accepted.

If you start an argument about man made climate change, the argument is quickly diverted from the cause to the actual changes.
The ice falling into the sea, old man Attenborough and his warnings, the winds the floods the fires.
Anything but the proof that man is the cause.

And for good reason, because the proof isn't there.

150 years out of at least 4,000,000,000 years of the earth's existence
Truly amazing sample size

Warmer is better, more C02 is great for growing food
We should be rejoicing!

who the fùck wants to be cold anyway?

Feb 5, 2020 -- 10:47PM, jucel69 wrote:

150 years out of at least 4,000,000,000 years of the earth's existenceTruly amazing sample sizeWarmer is better, more C02 is great for growing foodWe should be rejoicing!

That's like doing Apple's audit & only picking one invoice to check the accuracy of their accounts!

true , its quite nice having a mild winter , trouble is we going to fry in summer

fry? 30 degrees is hardly hot.

40/45 is hot!

If I ran a book for global warming ..not being a scientist I'd still price it up as
30 to 100 man
11 to 4 not man

As I've said before, no need to worry about the climate, AI will kill us all in the next few hundred years

As I said earlier, warming leads to less fossil fuels being burnt to keep the chill off. In the UK we would fly less to escape cold Blighty .

In hot weather we cook less and eat more salad. So less electric and gas being consumed.

Why does no scientist mention this obvious ‘offsetting’.?

Thought of you lot as I was doing the car again.What worries me about some of you clowns is you believe any lie you are fed-question everything.

Balmy here again in London Terry and once again the car was frost-free.

Feb 6, 2020 -- 8:54AM, terry mccann wrote:

Thought of you lot as I was doing the car again.What worries me about some of you clowns is you believe any lie you are fed-question everything.

We don't believe your lies. ANd when we question you you never answer.

What is 2+7?

I'm offering odds of 1.4 for terry not answering the question. Anyone?

Lovely sunny day here in the midlands, bloody beautiful

If this is man made then id like to buy that man a beer

Not here in Sussex JM,very icey first thing,lovely sunny winters day now,if the demonic ones(Elites) were not making such a fuss we wouldn't even be talking about so called Climate Change-its just a normal day,not to cold and not to warm.

no frying summers  in the pipeline for UK  or Ireland ,our summers were never going to get hotter ....cooler ,cloudier and wetter more like as a result of global warming ,Terry atleast has that much correct  ...we live on an island   ...the continent now sees the warmer summers   ..Poland,Germany etc 


northern winters were always going to become milder though .. our winters were always milder than everywhere else  ,but HUGE temperature gains in winter in places such as Scandinavia and near continent  ...our gains are more quite modest but still very noticable  .

more /quite  ....  delete one of them 

I'm wondering if you live in a 'frost pocket' Terry   ....you mentioned Sussex and i know there a couple down that way .

It was cold last night but didn't breach freezing  in my inland  location

Our climate has changed.. fact
There was never daffodils in January they come out at Easter
Catkins do not appear on the trees until March not January
Bass were a south coast fish they now get caught in Scotland
It's not people making things up look at the evidence

Few deny the climate is changing and has changed many times before.

It’s more a question of whether it’s because I drive a diesel or not.

Injera

As I suspect you already know....

1 person driving a car will make almost zero difference to global temps.


However if 3 billion people were to drive around, fly around, heat their homes/workspace, cool their homes/workspace then collectively those 3 billion people can make a difference.

So there is

plenty of evidence that the planet is warming.
Plenty of evidence that chemical composition of the atmosphere is changing (more CO2 )
Plenty of evidence humans are producing CO2
Plenty of evidence that certain gases in atmosphere effect the amount of heat which "escapes" into space & how much "reflected" back towards the planet.

&
Just about zero evidence that there is some other explanation  (I.e. Orbit of Earth? , distance from Sun changed, change in volcanic activity? Planet hit by Astroid? Continents moved in past 200 years? )


Best wait and see for another hundred years before doing anything???

There is evidence that:

Warming of the planet will lead to significantly less fossil fuels being burnt.

i think even the most hardcore sceptics are coming around to climate warming , evidence is undeniable tbh

argument seems more to do with cause lately , im not sure that really matters

all that matters is world leaders realise tbh and try to combat effects

i think even the most hardcore sceptics are coming around to climate warming , evidence is undeniable tbh

argument seems more to do with cause lately , im not sure that really matters

all that matters is world leaders realise tbh and try to combat effects

i think even the most hardcore sceptics are coming around to climate warming , evidence is undeniable tbh

argument seems more to do with cause lately , im not sure that really matters

all that matters is world leaders realise tbh and try to combat effects

oops

How do you combat effects without knowing the cause? For instance, Greta says we need to go zero fossil fuels. What if climate change wasn't due to fossil fuels?

Obviously the cause needs to be determined before you start solving the issue.

That is why, as you have observed lately, the arguments are about who is causing the climate change.

Det
Those who don't use loon-tube or kkk.com to do their research are pretty confident that the observed changes to the chemical makeup of the atmosphere is responsible.

And nobody is bothering to show an alternative.  I.e. we haven't had an astroid crash into the planet
Etc.

I know. That is why i've been saying the debate here and everywhere else is useless. You want to do something for the environment, no one is stopping you. You want to go zero fossil fuels, you're up against very powerful people. You want people to pay another tax so you can help the planet, you can go fk yourself.

I get that one part of the solution is to get people to give up their old habits(like fossil fuels). But the same people who are preaching this are conveniently ignoring factors bigger than fossil fuels, simply because working on those factors(such as India/China) will not bring them any money. And they would obviously not dare preach it to them in the first place.

I also have a problem when young girls are used to get a message across. Remember Malala and Nayirah?

lets just say we don't know the cause


it doesn't mean to say we keep deforesting and filling atmosphere with toxins


that's a no brainer , if only for the sake of many 1000s of species who are at risk never mind humans

my personal view is the climate issue is in line with rise of industry , population , big farming etc as is the mass extinction

dt
The debate is not useless. The first thing that has to happen is for people to recognise the problem much in the same way that plastic has finally been seem to be harmful. And before that smoking. Only then will useful progress be made.

Did people have to pay a plastic tax when they realized how harmful it was? I don't think so. All that happened was businesses started using paper products with the general trend of using environment friendly products. Businesses not using them were frowned upon.

My only problem is why we have to pay a carbon tax. No one is stopping anyone from creating better fossil fuel alternatives and driving them out of business. The only talk is neutralizing emissions or zero emissions, which is never going to happen. The time Greta has given us to turn thing around is not enough to go to zero emissions. So why does she preach it?

There is more than one argument there. The first is to accept climate change is happening or not. The second is to do something about it or just ignore it. People did have to pay a plastic tax in the simplest form of having to pay 5p for a plastic shopping bag.

Exactly. If you have a problem with diesel cars, tax the diesel car manufacturers. They will then pass it on to the customers who will know that if they want a diesel car, they need to pay the tax. The public will eventually pay.

But if you come to me asking for a 100 bucks from my pay cheque every month because Diesel is bad for the planet, do you really think i'll give you the money?

The research on smoking was ignored for years and then became incontrovertible and cigarette prices went through the roof.

I don't see the difference between taxing the car manufacturers and taxing you.

Feb 6, 2020 -- 9:44PM, Charlie wrote:

I don't see the difference between taxing the car manufacturers and taxing you.

If you tax me, car manufacturers will still make diesel cars and continue polluting the planet.
If you tax them, they will have to tell their customers to pay more, but the customers have the choice to not buy the car.

I think there's a clear difference there.

In the same way as taxing plastic bag manufacturers and taxing people who buy plastic bags.

I'm not recommending this but I would imagine if you kept the price of a diesel car the same but doubled the price of diesel you would very quickly see a decrease in the number of diesel cars being sold.

Yes you can do that too. I don't have a problem with that.

My point is simply that me paying more tax so that someone can use that money to offset the effects of diesel cars isn't a solution. Even if I stopped using diesel, I would still be paying the tax. Meanwhile neither the price of diesel nor diesel cars is feeling the heat from this while I dish out my hard earned money. Do you really not see the problem here?

Would you be fine paying 1% out of your income every month to pay for the healthcare of smokers? Yes or No?

Or would you rather have the government take that money from the cigarette companies, who are then free to demand it back from the smokers?

If the UK went carbon neutral tomorrow, how much difference would it make to climate change?

The answer is - f'ck all. 

And that's even if we give the greenhouse gas effect brigade the benefit of the doubt.

Cut down on pollution yes, give us clean air to breath - absolutely.

But down ask me to believe it's going to make any difference to climate change. To believe that you've got to pretty gullible in a world where money is the motivation for everything.

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lets just say we don't know the cause


it doesn't mean to say we keep deforesting and filling atmosphere with toxins

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Well that is of course all noble and required.

They do not need to make up 'man made global warming' and trade carbon credits for me to know that toxins and deforestation were not good things.

The fact that these carbon credits can be traded tells you all you need to know

Carbon-emission credits, long shunned by traders, are now one of the world's best-performing investments. The price of the credits, doled out by governments in Europe to polluting power plants and steel mills to curtail the production of greenhouse gases, has soared more than fivefold over the past two years.

SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not as simple as you make it sound and there is many diff types of credits, I can se no listings on any regulated bona fide exchange that is covered by fca,  your post is misleading and appears fake, got a link to back it up, just spent 10 mins doing basic research and ask you to supply a link to your claims of CC's being a leading investment and them being able to produce profit to investers, or having increased by x5.