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Again, its all utter rubbish to cause fear and panic don't believe a single bloody word of it
Jan 31, 2020 -- 11:47AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:
All this news about the flight bringing back British nationals who will then go into quarantine while a friend of mine who lives and works in China - Beijing was able to book his own flight to gatwick -jump on the train and arrived back into Eastbourne yesterday afternoon. No checks or quarantine.Again, its all utter rubbish to cause fear and panic don't believe a single bloody word of it
I tend to agree SS
People are getting super twitchy here!
Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath
I don't fancy getting it tbf, it looks pretty nasty and I have slight asthma which exacerbates any chest infection
Jan 31, 2020 -- 12:01PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:
They have to keep the numbers low because if 100s of 1000s of people "caught it" they'd have people in uproar, keep the numbers low and people will stay in fear and not react, I highly doubt any of us will know of someone who has caught this
same as all these "world events" SS, a lot of fearmongering going on
seen it all before
that's 100,000+ more births than deaths each day
Jan 31, 2020 -- 12:06PM, wondersobright wrote:
world population growth is in excess of 100,000 per daythat's 100,000+ more births than deaths each day
unsustainable!
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/after-the-black-death-europes-economy-surged-1821060986
You couldn't make it up
It's perfectly possible for the population to increase and the birth rate to be down.
Jan 31, 2020 -- 11:09AM, wondersobright wrote:
det...sent you a pm
thanks.
Betfair not allowing me to respond for some reason.
Going by Huntsman coaches to the Squirrel
Mr Gates predicted 2 years ago that a super-virus pandemic would break out in China and could kill 33 (Freemasons favorite number) million people around the world in the first six months.
Some people here are saying that this Coronavirus is a fake story to keep us in fear so we'll decide to get vaccinated with something nasty but those people are just silly. I can't wait for a toxic cocktail to be ready so I can have it injected straight into my bloodstream, I have so much trust in my Government and other authorities that I won't even bother to research what the ingredients are.
A little perspective wouldn’t go amiss....
wild animals and farm animals
That's what WHO are saying
But its normalised nowadays is cancer, its just part and parcel of human life which is extremly sad
How long have they been researching cancer? still can't find a cure, but they can invent computers that can send instant messages to another computer, you can see what I've typed out absolutely amazing really is
But we can't find a cure for what is essentially a common disease?
The vaccine is already ready and waiting for this strand of flu as well.... Yeap!!!
Let’s face it we will all die. Get right with the Ancient of Days would be my advice.. And in the meantime, be nice.
No insight required in response to your bammery.
I could be in the money soon!
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-masks-going-125-profiteers-advantage-surging-demand-183700565.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABE-5Uhx0_40o5hhjggndf97yqCTgZlhlSb3hEQ35ThUE4dzS2mHnfsPaWPrA9iwDrYJmmasYcjOY6BJpnYZJUTZxvWFYvShm-JTChY1Gwz4jTQZrDRauLg0JYK1D4QK731Kv_u3s02TFIvlW5rUg3vAmZY-bvOunKAk-tkbJTy_
to cull their pets!!!
And the usa/aUS are banning Chinese people from travel
Of course the UK will allow ALLCOMERS
EU OR NOT
The British Isles ... " we're independent today , come and give us a try "
The Gods of fate..." Are you sure , remember foot and mouth ? Not your finest hour."
The British Isles ..." Two world wars and one World Cup ! Engerrlannnd !
The Gods of fate " ok , fair enough,but just start with one or two till you find your feet, just , for gods sake don't fly a bloody plane load over !
The British Isles. " Oops "
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPbwB-LXsAIyc0g?format=jpg&name=900x900
The Spanish Flu Epidemic. " I did well myself, filled my boots I did, they fought well but then it took two world wars to let me in and they'll never be that stupid again
The unnamed 2020 coronavirus. ( answering the phone from the Devil ) " Never ! Brize Norton you say? 130 pm today ! A whole bloody plane load . Right lads, listen up . And call sars over, get swine flu and mad cow disease on the blower. You're never gonna believe this! "
You actually believe no virus exists and it's just bad pollution and all the other countries doctors/scientists are covering for China's pollution by pretending their is a virus? You are off your freaking nut.
"Off your frecking nut" doesn't begin to do him justice.
The Philippines reported the first death from the virus outside the country.
Chinese estimates need to be taken with a large dose of
SCEPISTISM
https://twitter.com/goulchakir/status/1223918800174796801?s=20
Shanhai stock exchange down 8%
Holly Mollie!!!
They must be running out of dead people
China
Just the 30k
That's 1 big quarraytine CAMP
The plot or the VIRUS does thickens
—As always, I suggest that readers go through my recent articles on the China epidemic ( https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/ ). I can’t recapitulate all the relevant findings every time I write a new piece.
This article is a kind of summary of where I stand, at this moment. A rather crowded snapshot.
Judging from the history of epidemics that turned out to be duds—West Nile, bird flu, SARS, Swine Flu, and so on—and judging from my research on these frauds—I see no reason to jump the gun and say, “This one is different.”
Every time one of these threatening clouds passes across the sun, all sorts of people in both the mainstream and alternative press make dire predictions, ranging from “this looks like a global pandemic,” to “the virus is a bio-weapon and will kill millions,” to the ever-popular, “this is THE BIG ONE.”
And then, when the dust clears, and the dud is exposed, amnesia about having made those predictions sets in.
Now we have a variety of people claiming they know the Chinese coronavirus is a bio-weapon, for several different reasons. I have no cause to rail against these people. As far back as 1988, I documented astonishingly lax conditions in supposedly secure bio-research labs, and the distinct probability of all sorts of germs escaping. I devoted many pages in my book, AIDS INC., to a history of bio-war research, grotesque animal experiments, and incompetent safety precautions in labs. I have written about US companies and government-connected organisations sending bio-war materials to Saddam Hussein in the 1980s.
Proving that this Chinese coronavirus is a bio-weapon is a different matter. If, as proposed, there are peculiarities in the genetic sequence of the virus, and it has therefore been tinkered with by humans…well, perhaps that is correct. I don’t know. However, I have deeper and more basic suspicions about published genetic sequences of viruses, from which that assertion is derived. Meaning: I don’t automatically accept the published sequences as true or accurate or real.
For example, my most recent article included a very troubling interview that challenged the original isolation and identification of HIV—as in, did researchers ever really find that virus? If they didn’t, we would be looking at fraud on a mind-boggling level…and any so-called genetic sequencing of the virus would be impossible, except as gross error or fraud. If you can’t find the culprit and you don’t know what he looks like, how can you describe him?
To bolster this point—in past articles, I’ve detailed how, in the cases of SARS and 2009 Swine Flu, the purported viruses seemed to disappear. That is, they couldn’t be found in patients. Yet, reported case numbers of the “virus epidemics” continued to expand. One very real possibility looms: the researchers never actually found, located, isolated, and identified these viruses in the first place. Therefore, any published genetic sequences of these viruses were, to put in kindly, entirely irrelevant.
And therefore, to infer from those genetic sequences that such chimerical viruses were actually bio-weapons…well, that would be miles off the mark.
Many people would turn purple and apoplectic at the idea that published genetic sequences could be con jobs, hustles, and giant errors. But very early on, in the 1980s, I discovered how researchers will toe the official line, out of fear. Imagine a mainstream researcher contacting the World Health Organisation, or a premier medical journal, and saying: “Your genetic roadmap of Virus X…I’m not getting the same result. My map is completely different from yours. I’m not even sure I’m sequencing a virus. Will you examine my finding? We need more independent work. What the hell is going on?” Here today, gone tomorrow. That researcher would suddenly find himself out in the cold in his underwear. No perks, no publisher, no job, no reputation. And he knows this UP FRONT. So he keeps his mouth shut and swallows his objections. For instance, in 1987, I had a highly respected virologist tell me he KNEW there was a serious problem in calling HIV the cause of AIDS, but he and his colleagues were going to “take a pass on this one.” He saw the political landscape. He knew there was a rig-job in progress. The human implications of naming a meaningless item as the cause of illness and death? Did he even pause and think about that? Regardless, he shrugged and turned his attention to other matters. An overarching rule: the researchers who disagree with the forced consensus don’t get published in “respected journals,” so their colleagues and the public never hear about them.
Moving on—THE VIRUS is a fake propaganda idea that has traditionally been used to cover up vast crimes and the destruction of human life in ways that have nothing to do with germs. THE VIRUS is one of the greatest cover stories ever invented. I’ve explained how propaganda about viruses is made to stand in for corporate and government crimes that make people sick and kill them: contaminated water supplies; lack of basic sanitation; giant toxic agricultural farms; industrial poison-pollution; hunger; starvation; protein-calorie malnutrition; fertile farm land stolen from native people by corporations and governments; toxic medical drugs and vaccines; and now, in Wuhan and other Chinese cities, unprecedented mixtures of toxic air pollution, causing lung damage. The basic theme is: DON’T LOOK AT ALL THOSE CRIMES, JUST FOCUS ON THE VIRUS AS THE ONLY PROBLEM. This is sheer invention.
Next: in fake epidemics, case numbers are always inflated by the devious use of categories that label and count people who aren’t sick, will not get sick, will only experience something on the order of mild flu, or who are only numbers in computer modeled predictions.
I documented the astounding fraud perpetrated by the CDC in 2009, when the overwhelming percentage of tissue samples from so-called Swine Flu patients revealed they didn’t have ANY KIND OF FLU. And the CDC went on to estimate there were 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US in 2009.
The most widely used tests used to diagnose and label people as “case numbers of the virus” and “sick” and “infected” are inherently flawed. For different reasons, the antibody and PCR tests do NOT prove that people are ill or are going to become ill. This fact, of course, leaves a gaping hole in the assessments of “epidemics.” It also forces patients into toxic treatments they do not need. It puts a potent fearful diagnosis in their minds that is entirely wrong.
There is now a rush to develop a new vaccine against the Chinese coronavirus. I’ve warned readers that at least two of these vaccine technologies—DNA and RNA vaccines—are experimental and have never been openly licensed for use on the public. Therefore, the population of Earth—if these vaccines are deployed—will unknowingly step up to the plate in a vast guinea-pig test. DNA vaccines alter the genetic makeup of recipients PERMANENTLY, in unpredictable ways. RNA vaccines carry the admitted risk of causing auto-immune reactions. Basically, this means the body would attack itself. The vaccine is the hammer in this dangerous “epidemic” stage play. It is one of the extreme payoffs for having fomented fear and the desire to “obey authorities.”
In this “epidemic” and past similar instances, friends and colleagues have sent assessments up the flagpole which are far different from mine. They are still my friends and colleagues. I make no attempt to stir conflict among us. We agree on many vital issues. We will continue to agree.
All right—that’s my snapshot. This is where I stand, for the present, on the China coronavirus situation. Every point I’ve made, in broad strokes, in this article, is explained more fully in my recent articles.
I raise one more question for your serious consideration. If highly toxic pollution in the air, in Chinese cities, is causing deep lung damage, and if the Chinese government is covering that up with a story about a virus—what is now happening to the millions of Chinese people locked down, with nowhere to go, trapped in those cities—breathing the air?
P.S. Several readers have sent me significant emails stating that Wuhan is a global centre of 5G technology and deployment. I have written about the health dangers of 5G. Is this yet another non-coronavirus vector for disease and damage? It would certainly not surprise me. I have not had the time to look into this thoroughly. For the present, at least, I leave the job to others.
Well, I thought I was through writing this piece, but I need to make another crucial point. As you can see from the list of crimes I mentioned above, where corporations and governments are making people sick and killing them—and then using the cover story of a virus to hide their crimes—illness and death can come and do come from multiple causes. However, the public finds it hard to accept and understand this. Most people would rather seek out THE ONE THING that is the explanation. There is a deep psychological need to discover THE ONE. That is a reason why THE VIRUS cover story works so well. IT is portrayed as the single cause and the single evil. It is the psychological magnet to which all sorts of particles attach. This addiction has to be conquered. And this paragraph is a short version of what would be an 800-page book on the subject.
Feb 5, 2020 -- 11:40AM, John.W.Henry. wrote:
A week or so ago I did say i wasn't going to repost any more of Jons blog entries but as is often the case his postings are of such importance that the more people that get the opportunity to read them the better the chance that many more will get a grasp of what this fiasco may be all about.....—As always, I suggest that readers go through my recent articles on the China epidemic ( https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/ ). I can’t recapitulate all the relevant findings every time I write a new piece.This article is a kind of summary of where I stand, at this moment. A rather crowded snapshot.Judging from the history of epidemics that turned out to be duds—West Nile, bird flu, SARS, Swine Flu, and so on—and judging from my research on these frauds—I see no reason to jump the gun and say, “This one is different.”Every time one of these threatening clouds passes across the sun, all sorts of people in both the mainstream and alternative press make dire predictions, ranging from “this looks like a global pandemic,” to “the virus is a bio-weapon and will kill millions,” to the ever-popular, “this is THE BIG ONE.”And then, when the dust clears, and the dud is exposed, amnesia about having made those predictions sets in.Now we have a variety of people claiming they know the Chinese coronavirus is a bio-weapon, for several different reasons. I have no cause to rail against these people. As far back as 1988, I documented astonishingly lax conditions in supposedly secure bio-research labs, and the distinct probability of all sorts of germs escaping. I devoted many pages in my book, AIDS INC., to a history of bio-war research, grotesque animal experiments, and incompetent safety precautions in labs. I have written about US companies and government-connected organisations sending bio-war materials to Saddam Hussein in the 1980s.Proving that this Chinese coronavirus is a bio-weapon is a different matter. If, as proposed, there are peculiarities in the genetic sequence of the virus, and it has therefore been tinkered with by humans…well, perhaps that is correct. I don’t know. However, I have deeper and more basic suspicions about published genetic sequences of viruses, from which that assertion is derived. Meaning: I don’t automatically accept the published sequences as true or accurate or real.For example, my most recent article included a very troubling interview that challenged the original isolation and identification of HIV—as in, did researchers ever really find that virus? If they didn’t, we would be looking at fraud on a mind-boggling level…and any so-called genetic sequencing of the virus would be impossible, except as gross error or fraud. If you can’t find the culprit and you don’t know what he looks like, how can you describe him?To bolster this point—in past articles, I’ve detailed how, in the cases of SARS and 2009 Swine Flu, the purported viruses seemed to disappear. That is, they couldn’t be found in patients. Yet, reported case numbers of the “virus epidemics” continued to expand. One very real possibility looms: the researchers never actually found, located, isolated, and identified these viruses in the first place. Therefore, any published genetic sequences of these viruses were, to put in kindly, entirely irrelevant.And therefore, to infer from those genetic sequences that such chimerical viruses were actually bio-weapons…well, that would be miles off the mark.Many people would turn purple and apoplectic at the idea that published genetic sequences could be con jobs, hustles, and giant errors. But very early on, in the 1980s, I discovered how researchers will toe the official line, out of fear. Imagine a mainstream researcher contacting the World Health Organisation, or a premier medical journal, and saying: “Your genetic roadmap of Virus X…I’m not getting the same result. My map is completely different from yours. I’m not even sure I’m sequencing a virus. Will you examine my finding? We need more independent work. What the hell is going on?” Here today, gone tomorrow. That researcher would suddenly find himself out in the cold in his underwear. No perks, no publisher, no job, no reputation. And he knows this UP FRONT. So he keeps his mouth shut and swallows his objections. For instance, in 1987, I had a highly respected virologist tell me he KNEW there was a serious problem in calling HIV the cause of AIDS, but he and his colleagues were going to “take a pass on this one.” He saw the political landscape. He knew there was a rig-job in progress. The human implications of naming a meaningless item as the cause of illness and death? Did he even pause and think about that? Regardless, he shrugged and turned his attention to other matters. An overarching rule: the researchers who disagree with the forced consensus don’t get published in “respected journals,” so their colleagues and the public never hear about them.Moving on—THE VIRUS is a fake propaganda idea that has traditionally been used to cover up vast crimes and the destruction of human life in ways that have nothing to do with germs. THE VIRUS is one of the greatest cover stories ever invented. I’ve explained how propaganda about viruses is made to stand in for corporate and government crimes that make people sick and kill them: contaminated water supplies; lack of basic sanitation; giant toxic agricultural farms; industrial poison-pollution; hunger; starvation; protein-calorie malnutrition; fertile farm land stolen from native people by corporations and governments; toxic medical drugs and vaccines; and now, in Wuhan and other Chinese cities, unprecedented mixtures of toxic air pollution, causing lung damage. The basic theme is: DON’T LOOK AT ALL THOSE CRIMES, JUST FOCUS ON THE VIRUS AS THE ONLY PROBLEM. This is sheer invention.Next: in fake epidemics, case numbers are always inflated by the devious use of categories that label and count people who aren’t sick, will not get sick, will only experience something on the order of mild flu, or who are only numbers in computer modeled predictions.I documented the astounding fraud perpetrated by the CDC in 2009, when the overwhelming percentage of tissue samples from so-called Swine Flu patients revealed they didn’t have ANY KIND OF FLU. And the CDC went on to estimate there were 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US in 2009.The most widely used tests used to diagnose and label people as “case numbers of the virus” and “sick” and “infected” are inherently flawed. For different reasons, the antibody and PCR tests do NOT prove that people are ill or are going to become ill. This fact, of course, leaves a gaping hole in the assessments of “epidemics.” It also forces patients into toxic treatments they do not need. It puts a potent fearful diagnosis in their minds that is entirely wrong.There is now a rush to develop a new vaccine against the Chinese coronavirus. I’ve warned readers that at least two of these vaccine technologies—DNA and RNA vaccines—are experimental and have never been openly licensed for use on the public. Therefore, the population of Earth—if these vaccines are deployed—will unknowingly step up to the plate in a vast guinea-pig test. DNA vaccines alter the genetic makeup of recipients PERMANENTLY, in unpredictable ways. RNA vaccines carry the admitted risk of causing auto-immune reactions. Basically, this means the body would attack itself. The vaccine is the hammer in this dangerous “epidemic” stage play. It is one of the extreme payoffs for having fomented fear and the desire to “obey authorities.”In this “epidemic” and past similar instances, friends and colleagues have sent assessments up the flagpole which are far different from mine. They are still my friends and colleagues. I make no attempt to stir conflict among us. We agree on many vital issues. We will continue to agree.All right—that’s my snapshot. This is where I stand, for the present, on the China coronavirus situation. Every point I’ve made, in broad strokes, in this article, is explained more fully in my recent articles.I raise one more question for your serious consideration. If highly toxic pollution in the air, in Chinese cities, is causing deep lung damage, and if the Chinese government is covering that up with a story about a virus—what is now happening to the millions of Chinese people locked down, with nowhere to go, trapped in those cities—breathing the air?P.S. Several readers have sent me significant emails stating that Wuhan is a global centre of 5G technology and deployment. I have written about the health dangers of 5G. Is this yet another non-coronavirus vector for disease and damage? It would certainly not surprise me. I have not had the time to look into this thoroughly. For the present, at least, I leave the job to others.Well, I thought I was through writing this piece, but I need to make another crucial point. As you can see from the list of crimes I mentioned above, where corporations and governments are making people sick and killing them—and then using the cover story of a virus to hide their crimes—illness and death can come and do come from multiple causes. However, the public finds it hard to accept and understand this. Most people would rather seek out THE ONE THING that is the explanation. There is a deep psychological need to discover THE ONE. That is a reason why THE VIRUS cover story works so well. IT is portrayed as the single cause and the single evil. It is the psychological magnet to which all sorts of particles attach. This addiction has to be conquered. And this paragraph is a short version of what would be an 800-page book on the subject.
agree 100%
One small step for detroller, one giant leap for the chit chat forum. Its all good
Feb 3, 2020 -- 10:51PM, breadnbutter wrote:
After previous crashes the most a stock can fall on that market is 10% a day, 8% drop is not so bad, must be a few shares to put some beef on, medical related companies (mask, glove and body bag manufckurs) but surprised composite is not 10% down. See what gaps tomorrow, same again and ripple effect will begin.
Stock markets are a waste of time
We've been waiting for these crashes for years now and yet all they've done is vault higher on nothing but "bad economic news", yet at the same time the economy is doing great according to the mainstream media 
bad economic news everywhere but wages are up, inflation is down and everyone is having a wonderful time, no one has any money, have to work much longer because of increasing food prices and cloths etc, there's viruses everywhere and everyone is dying, all 300 of them in a 2 months.... makes no sense? thought not
Hence them bringing in terror laws to protect themselves, which would have no effect if people got their heads out of their a*ses
"The disease already killed more than(wait for it) 22,000 birds".
"Earlier on Tuesday,a similar alarming report about a bird full outbreak came from Vietham,where another highly pathogentic virus strain-H5N6-led to the deaths of (and again) 2,200 birds. As predicted in my 11.14 post but even quicker than even I thought.
So that's what it's all about then? The wonga .
They look about as dodgy as FIFA
WTF are you on about with this 22 noncence
You haven't posted any links to this "evidence "
All we have is some nutter posting at 11:14 some BS about "22" then the same racist loon posting at 15:32 some story without any source or time stamp.
Could also mention that the Oxford V Newcastle FA cup replay ended 2-2 at full time. (Apart from there actually being some truth in that statement)
About a week ago you were saying we shouldn't prevent people from traveling in their normal way and we shouldn't have scientists working on a potential vaccine. Your plan was to "wait and see what happens "
Have you waited long enough to see what is happening or would you like to wait a bit longer- maybe give it 6 months?
Unoffically could be 10 times that
Who knows, nowones counting
Properly
Just waiting to see if the all inclusive vaccine arrives
#Nonsense
Oh god Oh god give us bloody strength
Covid19
Super
Even better I don't have a smart phone
So I should be safe
3 tested in jail after one man collapses in cell,the man in his 1st day in jail after been transferred from a jail in Thailand
Very contagious
Quarantine is not very accurate
Econonomic chaos to follow
Whats not to like with a MANMADE virus
Could be make a Hollywood movie with
Will Smith
#nonsense
A Beijing medical team recently held a remote case discussion with counterparts in Wuhan using 5G technology for the first time to improve the efficiency of diagnosis and treatment.
According to a Xinhua report, Tong Zhaohui, vice-president of Beijing Chaoyang Hospital and a specialist in the treatment of critical respiratory-disease patients, participated in the online medical consultation in Wuhan.
Tong said the 5G remote case discussion focused on patients in a critical condition and helped improve the diagnosis and treatment process. He said hospitals in Wuhan could also be connected with each other with 5G technology.
Luo Yong, deputy director of Wuhan Union Hospital in Xiyuan district, said the use of 5G technology had brought together “think-tanks,” or medical experts, who were thousands of kilometers apart, and gathered “elite soldiers” from all over the country to confront the coronavirus.
Experts said 5G technology, with characteristics such as large bandwidths and low delay, could make diagnosis and treatment more efficient, convenient and safe, and have far-reaching significance for telemedicine and other medical applications.
Oh i get it now. We now need 5G to fight the flu bug sorry corona virus . Or is it pneumonia ??? You see no one can say one way or another can they ?????????????
#nonsense
you really are the most ignorant man posting on this forum
