Sexual abuse in Rotherham / Pakistani heritage

these are disgusting slurs upon muslims by people of white privilege

Lily Allen, Gary Neville and co will be straight on tweeting about this diagrace....oh....

So it's official: The perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage; the Independent Office for Police Force upheld the complaint of the victim; South Yorkshire Police Force accepted the findings of the report By Professor Jay.

We need arrests.

So it's official: The perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage;

Does that mean the new Labour leader will reinstate Sarah Champion?

I think with investigations going on in earnest it will not be long more van loads of Pakistani heritage sexual offenders for these crimes could be on their way to HMP soon unless they choose the coward way out and abscond to Pakistan prior to their trials and sentences.

Maybe someone hopefully another MP could ask the Labour Party why nothing was done to help the young victims in the Labour constituencies.

Reinstating Sarah Champion to the Labour Shadow Cabinet will be a positive start which may re-ingratiate genuine local Labour supporters in those constituencies back to Labour; doing nothing or denying it happened not under their watch would not do.

Sarah Champion should be taking legal action against the labour party.

It is such a shame how you are using this to denigrate islam

It's nothing to do with religion - it's the vile, sicko offenders. If Islam is their religion it's merely a coincidence. You cannot blame a religion for the behaviour of its practitioners; religion is opened to interpretations similarly, economics, medicines and even food for instance, obesity is over-indulging usually of fatty and sugary foods; it does not mean do not eat fatty and/or sugary foods., but in moderation.

I find reading the book to be most instructive.

It is more down to the close knit gene pool, they keep breeding low IQ and aggressive offspring.

My question to those who want to prove that its a Pakistani problem or an islamic problem is, once you've done that, where do you go from there? Do people realize that at the end they will rely on the police to prosecute them, the same police that protected them for decades? What has changed in the police force that makes you think the police will act differently now?

It looks similar to the refugee crisis. People complain about the people coming in, vote for the same government that is letting those people in, and then for some reason expect the govt to act differently?

Nothing will change but lessons will be learnt etc.

My point is, you are expecting the system to change itself just because you have figured out the people that the system protects(through media, prosecution, migration etc) are evil. It changes nothing in my opinion, unless someone within the system is held accountable.

It's not a Pakistani problem because that would be to denigrate Pakistani atheists and Christians.

It's an Islamic problem. It's the common denominator between Somali, North African, Bangladeshi and Pakistan nonces ALL operating here.

We know two facts.

1. The perpetrators were Pakistani and muslim
2. The police were protecting them

Since you are only solving the problem within your own country, would you rather want to go after Islam and Pakistan? Or the police?

Remember you only have control over one of them. And I don't think I need to say which one.

Unless a political party really wants to stand up and upset a certain community it is not going to ever happen.

The problem lies with mass immigation and the subsequent fawning over minority groups.

The rejection of the dominant culture leads to an acquiescence of the faults of all the others. The Filth then become part of the problem, holding the coats of the book lovers.

It's called suicide.

Well the police have not been fit for purpose for over 30 years.

The majority of Muslims are good law-abiding people. I think one can safely infer the vile sickos are predominantly Pakistani heritage (99.9999999999999%) specific - no Muslims from other Islamic countries was implicated. It's clearly only sickos of Pakistani heritage.

The government that virtually allowed an open-door immigration to foreigners was the Labour Party under Mr Blair; the Labour Party was also the de-regulator of gambling online/birth of super casinos. They also allowed betting adverts on tv, media and mobile and fobt - the crack-cocaine of gambling.

We all know labour started it but the conservatives (labour lite) just continued it, through historical guilt or for free votes, who knows.....

Bristol 2014: This is the chilling moment a member of a 13-strong Somali prostitution gang checks into a hotel where he and a friend would rape a 13-year-old schoolgirl three times.

The girls, aged between just 13 and 17 were in local authority care and fell into the evil clutches of the paedophiles who used the fear of rape to control them.

Some were persuaded to have sex with their 'boyfriend's' friends as it was Somali 'culture and tradition' and 'men always have sex with each other's girlfriends'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2851680/13-Somali-men-convicted-run...

Newcastle 2017:

Faith leaders across Newcastle have urged the public not to “cast blame on entire communities” in the wake of a police operation exposing the sexual exploitation of more than 700 victims across north-east England.

The former head of the Crown Prosecution Service called the abuse perpetrated over several years by grooming gangs a “profoundly racist crime” after 18 members of a grooming gang were convicted of offences including rape, assault, supplying drugs and trafficking for prostitution.

The defendants were mainly British-born Muslims and belonged to the Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities, while their victims are believed to be mainly white British girls and young women.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-newcastle-asian-pakistani-bangladeshi-muslim-response-faith-leaders-operation-shelter-a7888946.html

And the link is????

I think once the genie has been let out of the bottle it's extremely difficult to do otherwise for fear of causing ructions to others. And, the politicians are classic examples; rocking the applecarte is not conducive to feathering one's nest.

As far as I understand from the media there were other ethnic minority gangs too, but the Rotherham gang were predominantly of Pakistani heritage similarly, those operating in Sheffield, Leeds, etc.

Has to be mainly down to governments letting in people from a backward cult and let it all look like it is going swimmingly.

To save face but to let 1400 families be wrecked, is some nerve.

They didn't want 'racial tensions'. So they thought the rape of kids on an industrial scale was a price worth paying.

And with such a mindset it's bound to be continuing.

Book fully studied from an Early age  these people will not change ,Its in the book the main man with seven year olds FFS

@casemoney misses the point (has this ever happened before?) because this is not about paedophiles and 7-year-olds. The reason 14- and 15-year-olds, often but not always in care homes, are involved is not because they are under-age but because their heads can be turned by comparatively small amounts of money and by anyone who appears to take an interest in them. It is the same way they (and their male counterparts) are recruited by drugs gangs.

And as is also often the case, the police are not fit for purpose. Though "society" does not help here by diverting police resources to look at what celebrities got away with in the 1970s and 80s rather than protecting girls who are victims right now.

It's a fact Indians do not like Pakistanis (and vice-versa - history aplenty) as they see them as less educated, less cultured and coarse - a lower class in general. As such, they do not trust each other thus any untoward or illegal activity would probably be done independently, and not as a unit; Sri Lankans distrust both just as much again because of history.

Whether the grooming gangs were of Pakistani heritage or otherwise these crimes must be stopped; offenders incarcerated if found guilty and  deported, if born overseas. It cannot be allowed to continue or repeated again. And, the community concerned (Pakistani heritage) must be opened about it and shamed those responsible otherwise their entire community could be tarnished with the same brush unfortunately and wrongfully, but understandably by other UK citizens.

We've given well over a million pounds in legal aid to released rapists in Keighley to fight their deportation after sentence, despite the trial judge ordering it. They are still here several years later.

Nothing to do with police resources.

Plod have admitted they held the coats of the nonces.

If they dealt with this early doors they would need even less resources. Same with any crime. Go in hard early and crime won't escalate.

@imp You're generalizing things.

Indians and Pakistanis are basically the same people. They lived together till about half a century ago so to say one is lower in some way than the other makes no sense. India has more muslims than Pakistan so even if you were to make a claim based on religion it wouldn't make sense.

The Indians in UK(or anywhere else in the world) are in a completely different league compared to the rest of the world when it comes to living outside their own country. Their stats are incredible. And one reason for that is that due to their geographical location, you don't get the scum of the nation like you do from Pakistan. So you end up getting people from India that are genuinely interested in living a better life and don't just come here for free money. They are therefore highly unlikely to take up gang activity.

There are also 3 Pakistanis for every Indian in Manchester. The Indians wouldn't be able to match the Pakistanis even if they wanted to. Your point about mistrust is pretty valid but it applies to any other nationality, not necessarily only India. But like I said it doesn't go that far for mistrust to play a role, the Indians are just not interested in these things in the UK. At home though, they have a rape endemic just like Pakistan.

I'd disagree regards Indians and Pakistanis. It's akin to the British and Eastern Europeans or Malaysians and Filipinos - there are numerous subtle differences apart from language eg level of education and law abidance, mentality, prosperity, respect, etc.

One group is sworn to dominance to which one has to submit.   Check out the book that one has to live by and taught repetitively from an early age.

In the new cuck West, it's racist to call anyone from a non-white race, racist, even when they clearly are.

that is their carte blanche, their get outa jail card, their invisible cloak of invincibility, and the reason we're doomed unless there's a massive awakening

tick tock

Ram I suggest you have a look at some of the Victims  , Many were 11 or 12 when first targeted
any Younger we probably don't even know about ,One girl firstly targeted aged 12  ended up being burned to death when she was 17 , The average age may be 14 but many younger girls were targeted they are not all from care Homes Either ....

If the reports  are saying 14/15 you can be certain the girls will have been targeted a year or two before that , Not sure
about yourself but I would call 30/40 year old man chatting up 12 year olds a Nonce ...................

You are correct regarding access as most younger children are not allowed to wander the streets  , I fear for any who were .

And I stick by what I said these people are Brainwashed they Know the book inside out from a very early age , Reading on
a regular basis that some old Geezer is marrying 7 year old might just give some the wrong impression .

Their desire for dominance is very true even in places of work eg sorting offices at Royal Mail and supermarkets. But, they would not want their siblings working in outlets like KFC or McDonalds - no idea why. They also had the same distaste for betting shops (gambling is frown upon) until a few years ago with the decline in corner shops. However, one thing they still do not do is pubs.

The age of the victims says a lot about the sickos. What possesses them to inflict that sort of sexual abuses only the perpetrators and their Almighty would know? The victims were merely defenceless kids.

I sincerely hope with these new investigations implemented since just recently those still at large will be brought to book eventually with deportation automatic (no mitigation entertained) if proven guilty.

The good folk of South Yorks are giving the Police some stick on their twitter posts.

in the long term it is irrelevant - demographic shift conquers all.

Not if they are kept in-check, I think. But, they must not be allowed to do and dominate as they wish like as present. Their respect for the locals and other minority groups at work, in public, in politics, etc, must be ensured; bleating of discrimination and racism do not wash as they are the main perpetrators in business, work place and social eg they employ and mix with their own.

Your positive view is to be admired but you cannot change what a powerful political movement is about. 
The very institutions one would hope to arrest this development will not be of much use when someone else is dominant in it.

History of Kenya and Uganda, and soon to be Fiji could be useful to the community concerned.