Iran launches missile attacks on US troops at two Iraq bases

Do we know the timimgs, Case?  Did the plane take off before missiles were launched?  There were two waves, no?

Would the missiles have been picked up by Flightradar or whatever it's called?  Tehran air traffic control possibly had no idea missiles where being fired?  Where were the locations they were fired from?

Jan 10, 2020 -- 12:18AM, casemoney wrote:

Question for all forum Members A crowd of Lunatics are firing Missiles , are you getting on a departing plane at the Local Airport Add Trumps Mob may have been firing a few Back Beggars belief the plane was allowed to take off ....

You would if you thought the city was going to be nuked.

who would have shot down 60 canadians - what are 60 canadians doing on that flight

Why don't the americans just provide the proof they have and get over with it?

Jan 10, 2020 -- 12:26AM, moisok wrote:

who would have shot down 60 canadians - what are 60 canadians doing on that flight

I already told you it was a flight to Canada via Ukraine. 138 of them had connecting flights to Canada, 60 of them with canadian passports.

Maybe it was a revenge for the 1988 plane that americans shot down for no reason? I know there were no americans on board but we know the Iranians didn't want to hurt them so they chose the flight with the most canadians?

Just another theory of course

The yanks supposedly want an excuse to go in and invade Iran, so kill one of their top generals on foreign soil to incite a reaction

They get a reaction when they launch missiles into a sovereign nation, thus blowing up 2 Yank bases, yet the yanks tell us there's no personnel present at the time of the attack, thus killing no one but harming the Yanky pride

They (Iran) then down a commercial flight that has no part in this whole affair, killing 150+ innocent civilians because? well there's no good reason other than a sheer filthy act from the Iranians.

The Canadians and UK intelligence supposedly have "evidence" it was shot down, there's video evidence of it being shot down even the UK and US media. Yet the yanks say it was done by accident and aren't interested in it at all, and are happy that the Iranians are standing down...

All the above is just facts, makes absolutely fack all sense whatsoever, what was the whole point in the past few days "stand off". 150+ innocent lives lost for absolutely nothing whatsoever.

Its insane and disgusting to be honest, its beyond a facking joke.

They were never interested in starting a war, at least that would have been semi respectable, yes a filthy glove in hand partnership to start a war and send our kids of to be bloodied and killed. But at least it would have been in the name of some fake belief, fake but a belief nonetheless, people believe in it etc

Nope, we get some pathetic and disgusting pony show whereby 150+ people (plus more in the resulting missile strikes) are murdered for absolutely nothing other than to send crude oil higher in the markets

These people are downright vermin and its got to stop

goverbment of the world falling over themselves to say it was a accident get some backbone and bomb the s h i t out of iran then hang the leaders

"War  with Iran is pointless and frankly ,UNWINNABLE,and the Elites know this.Its not just war with Iran,it is a war with Iran,their allies and every other nation that reacts negatively to our actions.And these nations do not have to react militarily,they can react economically by dumping US treasuries and the dollar as world reserve".
"The establishment wants the US embroiled in Afghanistan,Iraq,Iran etc,until we are so hollowed out from conflict that we collapse. They also need a considerable distraction to hide their responsibility for the implosion of the Everything Bubble and the economic pain that will come with it.The end game for the establishment is for America to self destruct,so that it can be rebuilt into something unrecognizable and ETERNALLY MONSTROUS.They want every vestige of our original principles to be erased and to do that,they need us to be complicit in our own destruction.They need us to participate,dont,refuse to support new bankers wars,dont be a war pig".

^ THAT.

I heard that the Americans (and others probably) were listening to the Iranian forces radio chatter after the incident occurred, that's why they are saying it was an accident.

so we should accidentally bomb iran

the folk on the plane were iranian no ?

Canada say they have proof,Iran say of show the world the proof, sweet f uck all so far.

ok *

russians shoot down airliner, has this ever happened before?

putins puppets ...trumpy and bojo all out to defend putin....

I burnt the toast this morning,i blamed the Russians too

That's noble of you Tel.  Some would have blamed Brexit

Everybody calm down. It was an accident.

Jan 10, 2020 -- 12:06PM, detraveller wrote:

Everybody calm down. It was an accident.

chovuv, Portsmouth, United Kingdom, 9 hours ago

"A mistake made by Anti aircraft crews awaiting response from missile strike in Iraq". How does an aircraft coming from Tehran airport, climbing, tracking out of Iran, showing IFF and talking to ATC denote a response strike coming from outside the country. Sorry that's no mistake!

Either you believe the Iranian explanation or you show proof. No point in speculating. Apparently the americans and Canadians have proof. CCDA needs to get its hands on that.

proof of what?

cant believe anything Iran says after they claimed the plane came down due to techincal reasons, did they really think this would work in 2020

trump go get them little brain dead iranians

by accident,unintentional do they mean they thought they were firing at a usa drone etc not a civilian plane,or do they mean missile went of accidently
bombing an airbase and unintentionaly hitting a nearby hospital is not an accident its collateral damage of an act of war
seems the death of a professional soldier paid to put his life on the line can start war world 3 ,but the killing of nearly 2oo innocent civilians and countriues with victims,canada,uk,germany,ukraione all just want to bury the story,unbelievable, and proof positive iran and usa had no intention of escalating the crisis,just war games on a screen and nearly 200 innocent lives will just have to suck it up,
Russia launch a chemical attack on a uk city
iran blow 3 English citizens out of the air

and uk with a nuclesar threat and trillions worth of arms,say ok fair cop we,ll suck it up

Jan 10, 2020 -- 1:13PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

cant believe anything Iran says after they claimed the plane came down due to techincal reasons, did they really think this would work in 2020

Not Iran's provlem that you don't believe them.

It has clearly all died down. We say there were no heran citizens on board. I havent heard the British complain either. Canada have a problem. But Trudo could well just be acting.

*german

det do you not believe the video footage of the missile hitting the plane?

I find it hard to believe that America has evidence of Iran dwning a plane containing citizens of Nato countries, and a war not resulting out of it. We have invaded countries for lesser crimes.

The truth not relevant as far as I'm concerned. What does it prove? That Iran is evil? I already know that.

do you mean usa has evidence that the plane was downed on purpose and not accident

I think they claimed it was accident?

The point is they are not trying to show the evidence to prove Iran wrong. So why should we bother?

the missile was sent off intentionally and on purpose surely its irrelevant what it hits after that,its the firing of the missile that's the act of war,crime etc not what its aimed at or hits
one of the 20 missiles sent of 2 hrs earlier landed 30 miles from it was supposed to land if it had killed people it would still have been an act of war intentionally or unintentionally,
probably a very good example of how the 1st nuclear weapon will be launched panic,middle of the night, half wit on the controls etc,etc

im not entirely following what you're saying det

maybe its cos I had no sleep

Jan 10, 2020 -- 2:14PM, 1st time poster wrote:

the missile was sent off intentionally and on purpose surely its irrelevant what it hits after that,its the firing of the missile that's the act of war,crime etc not what its aimed at or hitsone of the 20 missiles sent of 2 hrs earlier landed 30 miles from it was supposed to land if it had killed people it would still have been an act of war intentionally or unintentionally,probably a very good example of how the 1st nuclear weapon will be launched panic,middle of the night, half wit on the controls etc,etc

I agree with you, they intended to bring down an aircraft, of that there is no doubt

Jan 10, 2020 -- 2:38PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

im not entirely following what you're saying det

With today's technology, when a missile kills someone, it was intended for him. And when it misses someone, it was intended to miss.

Now Iran says plane had a technical issue.
We say it was shot down.

Either way, it doesn't matter. Iran has urged everyone to get involved, including boeing. They can get involved and prove whatever they want to prove. Come up with evidence, or believe Iran's version. What's so hard about that?

How much more can Iran offer? Do you want them to say yeah we shot it down?

but its been proven it was shot down almost certainly with photos, videos and radar footage

hell theres even a photo of the tip of the missile in someones garden

America must be acting coy based on their terrible track record of killing people who they didnt intend.
Hospitals, green on blue, green on green you name it.
Whenever the British have fought alongside them they are in bigger danger from being killed by american than the backwards army the americans have decided need wiping out.

No amount of proof is wanted by either side

Its served its purpose and loads of rich filthy have gotten richer

It was intentionally shot down for the purpose of making them richer

They will say it was unintentional obviously

Jan 10, 2020 -- 3:34PM, detraveller wrote:

How much more can Iran offer? Do you want them to say yeah we shot it down?

Iran has bulldozed the crash site where a passenger jet came down two days ago, sparking fears of a cover-up after Tehran today denied the West's 'big lie' that Iranian missiles shot down the plane.

The debris of the Boeing 737 has been removed from the crash site near Tehran before Ukrainian investigators have even arrived - leaving the site at the mercy of scavengers.

Iran says it is 'opening' the plane's black boxes today but has indicated it will not allow the US government to analyse their contents.

Washington and its allies believe that the plane was shot down by two Iranian surface-to-air missiles which were launched and detected by satellites just minutes after the airliner took off.

why on earth have they cleared the site and not allowing the USA access to the black boxes if was a technical fault with the plane, det?

and yeh if I had a family member killed in that id expect an apology from iran and if none comes that indicates to me they shot it down on purpose and was a successful mission!

I wouldn't be seeking an apology, I'd be going full on Liam Neeson in Taken on their facking a*ses

Its high time people grew a spine and went after these little cants

Its ok for them to shoot down passenger planes, you can't do owt back or even say anything anymore

Its time that stopped ffs

Jan 10, 2020 -- 4:48PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

I wouldn't be seeking an apology, I'd be going full on Liam Neeson in Taken on their facking a*ses Its high time people grew a spine and went after these little cants

I couldnt agree more, imo ukraine and canada with the help of USA should hit iran with everything they have]

problem is canada are a bunch of soyboys and it isnt usa's fight

Don't need a full army

Just one man on his own can make an impact, the smaller the better, less noticeable and all that

Whoever fired that rocket is fair game as far as I'm concerned, big enough to press a button and kill innocent people with families, he's big enough to accept a war on his backside

G, USA doesn't need it to be their own fight to invade a country. Same goes for the brits. Was Iraq America's fight?

Like I said, the fact that the americans have calmed down despite having evidence that Iran is lying about the plane shows they are not interested in any retaliation. Canada is a Nato member right? So an attack on a Nato member is a good enough excuse for america to get involved. That's how they got Europe into their wars.

I understand about your loss. But this plane is just a free bet for the politicians, something they can talk about and milk for a couple of weeks. They aren't really interested.

the truth will out in the coming days im sure, its funny how one man is killed and the world loses their minds, 150+ killed no namers killed in a plane crash and nobody cares

^150+ no namers killed

They don't care until they need an "event" to distract people with and/or send oil skyrocketing

These people wont pack up with their games because they believe (rightly) that the majority of people do not give a sh** or can't wrap their heads around so don't bother trying

Iran were targeting US embassies? that seems to be their narrative now, which is massive backtracking , commercial plane blown out the sky? nothing, 2 military bases attacked? nothing, but oh they were going to attack one of our embassy's .... like what? so they killed on a general on nothing more than hearsay they were going to attack a building with few people in it? like they could get them out if they had "intel", but don't do s*** when it comes to them actually attacking a plane full of innocents and actually attacking 2 military bases? because they were "by accident"

Have you ever heard as much s*** in your life? attack on hearsay, but do jack on actual attacks

Its enough to make you wanna tear your sodding hair out observing this cr*p

Iran's military says it "unintentionally" shot down a Ukrainian passenger jet, Iran's state TV reports.

The statement, released on Saturday morning, said it had done so due to "human error".

Those responsible would be held accountable, the statement read on state TV said.

Iran had previously rejected suggestions that one of its missiles brought down the plane near the capital, Tehran, on Wednesday.

The crash of Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 with the loss of 176 lives came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.

All the stupid people who thought Iran did not take out the airliner, go join corbyn in the stupid corner.

Gonna need a bigger corner for some of the fat heads in here

OOOOPS!

Got to feel sorry for the Russians,blamed for everything without a shread of evidence everytime-think Salisbury for a kick off

Like I said yesterday, the show is over and whatever happened to the plane is irrelevant. What are the brits going to do now? Invade Iran? They can't do that because America doesn't want them to do that. When Iran bombed the america bases, it was a good enough excuse for invasion but that didn't happen. Show was over. Everybody needs to get over it.

of course if they thought under orders they were shooting down a usa missile,drone etc as ive already said its not unintentional ,its collateral damage of an act of war,but Canada,uk,germany,sweden seem fine with it,but talk of war because someone demonstrates outside an embassy ,the west have made a laughing stock of themselves, iran can shootdown 180 civilians without reprisal,s , of course if 1,2,3 70 americans were on board trump would be force to attack iran

detraveller needs a special corner of his own

Do yourself a favour and stop digging mate

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I think you will find I was right when I said the show was over looking at how the US didn't bother responding to the dozen rockets fired at their bases.

Jan 11, 2020 -- 10:25AM, terry mccann wrote:

Got to feel sorry for the Russians,blamed for everything without a shread of evidence everytime-think Salisbury for a kick off

the forum's thickest poster never fails to deliver.

Dunno dave i think charlie gives you a run for your money.

Don't worry trolls of course the yanks will attack Iran after some false flag like all the other times

Quite obvious a SAM or the like  involved as soon as video was released , only the blind would deny that , the same Blind
people who have allowed mass rapists to run wild in the UK for decades .....

Our luvvie duvvie lefty Steptoe supporters , the seething and desolate remnants of human beings .

Jan 11, 2020 -- 11:02AM, detraveller wrote:

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Speaking of"?", have you yet worked out how Deutsche Bahn being state owned might be related to them being able to offer cheap travel tickets?

'Iran admits to taking down plane "unintentionally" '

So they can aim missiles to attack bases 100s of miles away, and make sure they kill no one

But they can't not miss a plane a few 1000ft above ground level

This just gets better and better and better

Absolutely pathetic from all involved and that includes us, Canada, Iran and the filthy yanks

Can't even lie properly nowadays, that's what they think of us all

Absolute contempt

Jan 11, 2020 -- 10:40AM, 1st time poster wrote:

of course if they thought under orders they were shooting down a usa missile,drone etc as ive already said its not unintentional ,its collateral damage of an act of war,but Canada,uk,germany,sweden seem fine with it,but talk of war because someone demonstrates outside an embassy ,the west have made a laughing stock of themselves, iran can shootdown 180 civilians without reprisal,s , of course if 1,2,3 70 americans were on board trump would be force to attack iran

Hearsay is an act of war

Actually blowing up commercial flights is nothing, none of them could give a s***

Hence the pathetic "response" and half ar*ed effort to sweep it under the rug

Absolute jokers running the asylum and people let them ffs

TBH whoever fired the Missile or if it was just on Auto , they would hardly expect a Passenger plane to be in the Air , Who in their right mind would have taken off in such Circumstances ?? and who authorised it ?? MADNESS a tragic waste of life.

Jan 11, 2020 -- 8:25AM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

All the stupid people who thought Iran did not take out the airliner, go join corbyn in the stupid corner.

true

Jan 11, 2020 -- 11:05AM, detraveller wrote:

I think you will find I was right when I said the show was over looking at how the US didn't bother responding to the dozen rockets fired at their bases.

you did get it badly wrong when you believed the iran story, ive still no idea how they thought that would work in 2020 the IQ levels in Iran must be amongst the lowest in the world

watched some interview yesterday with an iranian ambassador and even yesterday he was denying they had shot it down, its laughable how retarded that nation is

nothing to do with being retarded it's how governments often manage information i.e. tell lies when it suits them

Jan 11, 2020 -- 2:30PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

Jan 11, 2020 -- 11:05AM, detraveller wrote:I think you will find I was right when I said the show was over looking at how the US didn't bother responding to the dozen rockets fired at their bases.you did get it badly wrong when you believed the iran story, ive still no idea how they thought that would work in 2020  the IQ levels in Iran must be amongst the lowest in the world

I believed Iran's version because it has been a non event. Irrelevant. Either way no one is invading Iran. Now we know Iran did it. What has changed? Nothing. When there were not going to be any consequences, believing Iran or proving they were lying made no difference.

Iran got away with hitting two American bases, killing 3 brits, 60 Canadians.

Like I said, we've invaded countries for lesser crimes. Iran is a milking machine and don't think they'll be invaded. Hence it's irrelevant trying to prove how bad they are.

Are they now more evil than they were last week? It's all just a news item really.

dont need to invade it, id just bomb the feck out of it

if canada and ukraine do nothing theyre going to look like fecking idiots although canada are already known for being pu ssies

Here's another way to look at it. Half of America's arms export are to middle eastern countries.

If Iran isnt a threat anymore, what do you think happens to that business?

180 loons paid for the privilege ,as most of iran hid in the shed,who in their right mind would get in a plane from that airfield that night

Interesting developments in Tehran...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7876363/Iranian-protesters-Tehran-turn-against-regime-military-admits-shooting-plane.html

Iranians have gathered in the streets of Tehran to demand the resignation of Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei after the regime admitted it had mistakenly shot down a passenger plane.

Angry crowds gathered on Saturday night chanting 'death to liars' and calling for the country's supreme leader to step down over the tragic military blunder, video from the scene shows.

What began as mournful vigils for Iranian lives lost on the flight quickly turned to outrage and protest against the regime, and riot police quickly responded with tear gas in an attempt to break up the protests.

Surely not the rent a mob paid by the yanks and Israel?

We get a false impression of Iran. I should think most Iranians reject militant Islam and even Islam itself.

no injera   with the revolutionary guard with guns in the backs of the population -  they lurve their mullahs   -  the mullahs say so 

the rev guard and mullahs take too much money out of the  system to give it up easily

Iran, pre '79 and now.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47032829

The Shah banned the hijab in 1930!

Still a bit of info to come on the plane, was hit by more than one missile imo, struggling to believe the Iranians could be so negligent, Dad's army stuff, although initial reports were saying the plane was initially fired at from regular iranian army base. Initially a missile  took out the 737 pas jets comm equip and its transponder, the video showing it being struck was taken After a loud explosion was heard, you can see a flash and 10 secs later hear the bang, this is the second hit and there was possibly a third although the different video angles are a shade confusing.Not sure the Iranians cleared the wreckage but let's face it nearly all the people on board were born in Iran and must be highly embarrassing for the the regime although its all been a bit bizarre and a good few spaces needing filled in on this fiasco. What is it with Iranians and planes? Absolute shambles of a nation.

Those pictures are good injera. Odd that anything put on here showing what Britain was like in the 60s is quickly removed.

If the Iranian leader says he "doesn't care what the facts are" and they "will never apologise" for their country they will be as big a shambles as America after downing a civilian plane.

Iran has every right to defend its airspace  - the aircraft is built by foreign devils anyway.

raahb wetting himself about iran detaining a bloke from a barbers shop for 3 hrs but jog on blowing 180 people including 3 uk nationals out of the sky

Iran claimed all the 'Canadian' victims as Iranian, it's possible the Brits were the same.

Jan 12, 2020 -- 10:38AM, saddo wrote:

Iran claimed all the 'Canadian' victims as Iranian, it's possible the Brits were the same.

I had thought BBC would have covered the victims a bit more if they were 'diverse' brits. I noticed their coverage of the canadian victims mentioned how canada was in mourning, showing a shot of some iranians reading the koran sitting in a room.