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23 Dec 19
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maybe put its own house in order first !
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Why?
They've just won a general election and prevented the anti-Semitists getting into power. |
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I thought they weren't going to intervene in anything?
Some people are easily taken in by a bit of waffle and charisma |
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Any sign of the Tory islamophobia enquiry yet? Presume Javid must have resigned in disgust if not.
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Indeed. I can feel your anger about a government being soft on crime.
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strange post injera, government announcement, innit
they should be investing to stop all crime issues you seem to have a race issue running through all of your posts these days |
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Racism goes any which way. Agreed?
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anybody can be racist. l guess its a choice you make.
dunno what you get out of it though |
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Without using the web, have you heard of Sami Sidhom and Tashan Daniel?
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Everyone misses the point with this. Any amount of punishment, sanction or calling out, doesn't alter the mindset of somebody who would otherwise behave in a racist way. If a guy is sat in the stands, just containing what would otherwise manifest itself but for the threat of an eviction, a ban or a points deduction for his team, he's still THINKING what he thinks. I don't refrain from burgling houses just because I think I might get caught. Unless hearts and minds are changed permanently, football - and society still has the problem. The government threatening football authorities with "further action" is papering over the rather ugly crack, - a breakdown of decency and tolerence.
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no such thing as racism,,,
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JEEEzus!!
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donny pp and ss and the rest of the progressives support a political party that appears to thrive on racism - the mugmentum lot are stuffed with racists, anti semintes etc and you lot support them and it
and yet you go around playing the raycyst card when you are just the same is that right? |
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To be clear moysey, and got the avoidance of any doubt did you just call me a racist?
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you all support them it is no doubt you support a labour party that has been anti semite and yet you want to call out others for being racist - dont you see that?
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steerforth. Very good post.
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^That sums them up moisok.
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oh I get it you want responses so you can report and get rid of people who have different view points as several people have pointed out about you
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You know we didn't have a racism problem a few decades ago. It's funny that the people who shout loudest about racism are the type that cause it in the first place.
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I am at my swiss chalet for a bit of skiing but off later to check out my Australian property that was near the fires.
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Ok, I'll continue....
Sami and Tashan had some things in common..they were young men, football fans and were brutally murdered by 2 and in Sami's case multiple people. Tashan was a full time athlete. On the morning of his death he took his grandpa to his day care centre . He then headed off to see Arsenal play Forest in a Cup match. He was stabbed at a you tube station... Sami was studying law. He was 18. He was coming home from a West Ham match. 9 men were arrested for his death but as far as I know, no charges have been made. Both youngsters were black/brown. Their killers black/brown. Has ANYONE in the FA, Govt, or the patronising ex pro brigade said ANYTHING? When blacks kill blacks NOONE cares except the families. The liberal filth that includes Stormzi, Neville, Lineker, Sky and BBC ONLY care when a white lad shouts abuse at a black player. They NEVER speak or so anything about black lads at football getting murdered. So who are the racists? Who really cares for these young lads? Football HAS a racism problem. If Sami and Tashan were killed by whites we would never hear the last of it. Because they were slaughtered by blacks we hear nothing. |
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Not keen on scotland like some on here. Sturgeon may have something in line for those foreigners who own property up there.
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agree with steerforth ...you can't alter a mindset .
I would find out what else these people dislike ...if it's pink cars for example ...i would line a few of them up outside the ground before kick off so they can shout abuse at them they need to get the anger out of their system |
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anyone found guilty of shouting abuse should be made to dress up in a womble suit for future games so easily identified
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Just want to be sure you're actually calling me a racist, that's all.
Simple yes or no will do. Unless you want to run away. |
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you would get racists hiring womble costumes
just ban them. |
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racists, not womble costumes...
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I'd agree with steerforth, only difference now is that racists have been emboldened to spout their views. A few years ago, they might have thought the same but just been a lot more careful with actually saying it.
I reckon social media has a lot to answer for as there is courage in perceived anonymity (as seen on here) and it's translating to large crowds, but the simple truth is that there are now people in high power and all over our mainstream media who openly and proudly spout views which would never have seen the light of day a while back. We're living in an age where racists see other prominent racists go unpunished and feel they can have a right good go at it too. |
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have to laugh .... sorry mis -read the post
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no racist would want to attend matches dressed as a womble ..mark my words ...these are angry people
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and if they did attend with other wombles then they could have their own section .... then just soundproof it
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failure to wear your womble suit at matches would result in a prison sentence
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I still don't think I'm getting through here. It's not about punishing. Punishing doesn't change life long prejudice. That remains after the punishment - in fact, it may even be reinforced through a misplaced sense of indignation. The answer is changing mindsets, that is a huge challenge I admit - but without it, everything carries on as it always has been, whether or not it's suppressed.
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If certain sections of society are responsible for a hugely disproportionate amount of violence, crime and general discord, other people are bound to feel prejudiced towards them I would think. I don't think racism is the correct term these days.
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changing a mindset is nigh on impossible
it lies both ways as well ...some blacks seriously hate whites ..so you'd need to 'fix' both sides of the fence |
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do chelseas black footballers carry out a lot of crime saddo ?
or is it just racism? |
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I was replying to steerforth, not you.
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Some money in that racism industry
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saddo - I totally get that - and I'm not saying for one minute that that is inherently irrational. But I live in Norfolk. I would take some offence if someone sugested in all seriousness that I'm attracted to my sister. Note that it's the "seriousness" that would count in that scenario: (joking about it would be much less of a worry to me, although not all would accept that). A mindset that really believes that every single person who shares a common origin or other physical trait, which is unrelated to a person's objective individual character, necessarily must possess an otherwise statistically significant character flaw, IS irrational. And it is a type of prejudice of which racicism is a subset. Education could remove that tendency but it might not remove the underlying natural dicomfort that a person might feel when the brain computes that a person with the unrelated common characteristic, might be a threat. That is human nature, but being self aware is to understand the process, and is the pathway to rising abobve it.
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