David Miliband to lead the Labour Party?

No.

What if a safe seat stood down for him?

No.

Why not?

He's been ordained.

Smitcha?

He'd be my choice. The unions went with Ed last time and that went to s hit. Then like a Martingale system Labour proceeded to chase their loses by doubling up on loony policy eachtime, only to keep losing.
Now the central Labour voters just are just voting tory instead....so that didnt work did it?

When I look at the array of momentum backed candidates now all I see is inexperienced 'bash street kids' who have idealistic visions of a fairytale land, that nobody will vote in....and even by the grace of god it managed once to be voted in it would collapse because nothing in life is free....and having a unilateral socialist state would just get picked off within a capitalist larger international environment.

Yes agree the Only hope for the Party , have a good clear out of the rancid front bench

you fail to see it - all your reactionary freaks!!


once all us old 'uns die off#

the 20 year olds can have it

and very welcome they are too  ho ho

your big problem is rich boy lansman and his cronies on the NEC  - what an arrogant twt he is too

wot did he say

voters will have to change their attitude or some other such creepy 're-education camp' style rhetoric

we all know where he is coming from their

whilst he sips at his latest from his huge cellar of wine

can't have the plebs thinking the wrong way   two legs bad four legs good   ....two legs good four legs -thickos

Just like his brother - Milliband would go down like a lead balloon - anywhere north of Watford.

Same result, therefore.

Maybe the Labour Party could buy Bojo (like a footballer) to lead them in the next election. I'm sure Momentum and Unions will pay mega bucks for him; he's kudos and proven form, just a bit disingenuous at times something Labour are use to.

this election was all about Brexit - nothing else. in 5 years time all the white working class seats the Tories won will go back to Labour.

Dec 13, 2019 -- 7:06PM, dustybin wrote:

He'd be my choice. The unions went with Ed last time and that went to s hit. Then like a Martingale system Labour proceeded to chase their loses by doubling up on loony policy eachtime, only to keep losing.Now the central Labour voters just are just voting tory instead....so that didnt work did it?When I look at the array of momentum backed candidates now all I see is inexperienced 'bash street kids' who have idealistic visions of a fairytale land, that nobody will vote in....and even by the grace of god it managed once to be voted in it would collapse because nothing in life is free....and having a unilateral socialist state would just get picked off within a capitalist larger international environment.

Post of the year dusty, I would love to see a labour party based on more moderate aims. It's heartbreaking to see what the extremists have done to it, Bevans achievements are monumental as are many great things from Labour over the years.

I hope the good guys in the party grow a backbone now (this is the time) and kick them out. Start with anxious the odious forum extreme Corbyn fanboy.

He has a nice sinecure on a massive salary so why would he give that up to lead
a fractured Labour party?

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Dec 13, 2019 -- 9:25PM, boxingthefox wrote:

Dec 13, 2019 --  7:06PM, dustybin wrote:He'd be my choice. The unions went with Ed last time and that went to s hit. Then like a Martingale system Labour proceeded to chase their loses by doubling up on loony policy eachtime, only to keep losing.Now the central Labour voters just are just voting tory instead....so that didnt work did it?When I look at the array of momentum backed candidates now all I see is inexperienced 'bash street kids' who have idealistic visions of a fairytale land, that nobody will vote in....and even by the grace of god it managed once to be voted in it would collapse because nothing in life is free....and having a unilateral socialist state would just get picked off within a capitalist larger international environment.Post of the year dusty, I would love to see a labour party based on more moderate aims. It's heartbreaking to see what the extremists have done to it, Bevans achievements are monumental as are many great things from Labour over the years.I hope the good guys in the party grow a backbone now (this is the time) and kick them out. Start with anxious the odious forum extreme Corbyn fanboy.

Lol call me anything foxy im not bothered but please never call me a tory

Fair play anxious, great comeback.

anxious I dearly want labour to rebuild a once fantastic party that's been hijacked by out of date commies, we now have proof of the damage they have done. Corbyn doesn't care about party or country by saying he will stay to (select) see a new leader in, as dusty has said to keep the momentum exremists in control, without change Labour will perish.

Without change they derserve to.

I must apologise for my intolerance, I am just sick to the back teeth of Jezza, Diane,
and Mac, their supporters have destroyed Labour when we need them most.

you are entitled to your opinion foxy , my beliefs have not changed despite what happened , of course you have to look at where mistakes have been made , but the struggle never ends

Of course, but please appeal to the many not the few. if not in power or a  credible opposition they are impotent and have no reason to exist.

Interestingly David Milliband has not been tweeting about his day job today, just the election result.

Corbyn and Corbynism abandoned Labour voters long before they abandoned him. They were literally repelled by a program that could not be delivered and leader who could not be trusted. Everything else is denial.
D Milliband 13/12/2019

My instinct is he would come back now. He is innately liked and was trending for a long time just after the exit poll.

When English rose Rachel Riley did her interview with Alastair Campbell where she was hanging Labour and Corbyn out to dry for anti-semitism, Campbell kept on at her about were there any circumstances she could be convinced to vole labour again. Her answer was 'I liked David Milliband'

Interesting, Journeyman.

I think he'll be quietly ruminating about things over a latte tonight BTF.

By the way I noticed the post above that you highlighted as 'post of the day' mentioned the martingale system.
Hoping that's not a subconscious association

David Miliband would have a reasonable chance at the next election.

Many staunch Conservatives like myself would view a Milliband victory as just about tolerable. We wouldn’t like it much, but at least consider him a credible leader of the country. That style of politician alone (palatable to a wide spectrum of the electorate) offers Labour any chance at all in the near future.

Yes i bet you would because his policies would be hardly any different than the tories

Put in a lightweight (metaphorically speaking) like Thornberry and the party is doomed to failure.

i agree with that but its not a beauty contest is it , its about policies isnt it , anyway the reality is that in this system governments are told what to do by the banks , the media and the ruling class

PLus of course very rich billionaires

The Glazier's

If Labour (read Momentum) selects the next leader from exactly the same socialist strain as Corbyn they will lose again in 2024. It is as simple as that.

If folks like you are content to remain in militant opposition forever, Mr A, then that’s fine by me. At some point, however, it must be good for the country if Labour actually represented a viable choice for government.

But why would i support something i dont believe in , ok so yes we can tolerate blair he done some good things but turned into an unmitigated  disaster, so do you want a real choice or just the same old thing over and over again , anyway real change always happens outside parliament if wasnt for the trade unions kids and people would still be working 12 hours a day up chimmneys

Do you think bosses woke up one day and said lets give these workers holidays , sick pay , maternity pay , rights to join a union , none of these things were given they were fought for with bitter resistance

Physical exertion is character building. As a child I chased our kitchen maids around the estate every morning.

clkass.,

Class*

yes very funny but you must see my point , nothing is ever given to workers or the poor it has to be fought for and the rich and the ruling class only do this very reluctantly

Good evening, Mr B. :)

Ana was my favourite, a raven-haired gypsy girl from some god forsaken place in Romania.

Tragically, one morning Ana was gone. Grand papa had mistaken her for a pheasant. :(

Another middle class London centric metropolitan,that will bring the Northern masses back make no mistake

Boris did it

He's a toff in a toffs party Labour is working class party or should I say was Labour need a working man not a solicitor or journalist

For me the one word that matters when voting for a party, effectively the leader, is trust.
For Corbyn to lose out to BJ on trust is a sad reflection on Corbyn.
The guy’s history, terrorist lover and anti-British, whether accurate or not and promising free everything made him not credible.
The big question is whether the momentum type will crawl back into their hole and give the party back to real labour types.
Suggesting Rayner or Long-Bailey just smacks of self harm.
David Milliband could be a messiah.
Starmer ok but a little tainted by associated with Corbyn.
If the morons in the party insist on a woman then Nandy, I think, would be the best pick. She seems very genuine and doesn’t spout dogma every time she opens her mouth.

If, by some miracle BJ keeps his one nation promises Labour are completely finished.
Chance of that though is slim.

Has nobody already mentioned the irony of the fact David Milliband is CEO of...
INTERNATIONAL RESCUE
Somebody put a call out ffs, ask ‘em to come and cut out this parasitic trailer park mentality where success gets sneered at and failure rewarded.

FAB

Labour can't afford to have another left wing advocate who has been in tandem with Momentum because it plays to those who will trash it   ... the media and the press will repeat the message of its more of the same ... thats a massive burden to overcome
We must move more to the centre ground with progressive but realistic ideas so the general appeal to all is there to be seen ... some might argue that it is better to remain strong to idealogical socialist beliefs but I'd rather have a Labour Gov't even if that means we use the methodology of the Blair years ... you can bluster forever about the immorality of the system from outside but better to work at gaining power and then you have real influence to enforce change for good. Labour have to win back seats they have lost in the North; Midlands etc AND win some elsewhere to have a chance of a majority ... it was always difficult even when most seats in Scotland & Wales vote Labour ... whoever takes responsibility has to have the Appeal of not just the oppressed
Short term Yvette Cooper would be a choice of mine  ... longer term Miliband if he returns to the UK and gets a seat in Parliament ... he has the charisma and appeal to voters  which some others mentioned simply don't have and without the baggage

Corbyn did well to get him and the socialist politics he believes in into position to challenge for prime minister, the problem was his own past and the people around him. Unfortunately if socialist politics are for you then Corbyns loss on Thursday as just buried any hope for the foreseeable future.