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13 Dec 19
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An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Corbyn's vision of socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Corbyn's ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for £ 's )something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation...
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Corbyn's ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for £ 's )something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation...
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Did Charlie think the OP literally believed this happened with a professor and a class talking about Corbyn 
Don't really care was merely pointing out that it wasn't Corbyn. Do you have a problem with that?
I suppose I should add:
Torquemada • December 13, 2019 4:22 PM GMT
Excellent story. The truth hurts.
Who seemed to believe it was true or talks in riddles as many of you do.
Torquemada • December 13, 2019 4:22 PM GMT
Excellent story. The truth hurts.
Who seemed to believe it was true or talks in riddles as many of you do.
what ever it was about, the fact is its true.
why would people be working hard to give to people who cant be fecked to?
why would people be working hard to give to people who cant be fecked to?
I was referring to the principle, not the specifics. That’s why I wrote “story.” Nice digging though.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
Where do the poor and prosperity come into the OP story?
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
Where do the poor and prosperity come into the OP story?
I dont think charles understands the principle being suggested here.
Dec 13, 2019 -- 7:00PM, Charlie wrote:
Don't really care was merely pointing out that it wasn't Corbyn. Do you have a problem with that?
Clearly it was a parable about socialism, and therefore applicable to Corbyn. Seems pedantic to point out that there was not an actual professor talking specifically about JC.
I posted that too soon.
Where does the legislating the wealthy out of prosperity come into it? And who legislates the poor into wealth? If you can't see that's nonsense then I give up.
Explain the principle of this then.
Where does the legislating the wealthy out of prosperity come into it? And who legislates the poor into wealth? If you can't see that's nonsense then I give up.
Explain the principle of this then.
charlie is a funny chappy - at least when there's not much else to entertain one with
Because the truth hurts. That’s why he doesn’t like it.
Because it doesn't apply to socialism. If anything it applies more to capitalism and torianism where the rich sh!t on the rest and do fack all.
Dec 13, 2019 -- 7:19PM, Torquemada wrote:
Because the truth hurts. That’s why he doesn’t like it.
So did you believe it?
so lets have an explanation as to what would happen then charles|!!!
“Because it doesn't apply to socialism. If anything it applies more to capitalism and torianism where the rich sh!t on the rest and do fack all.”
Sum up the left perfectly. Completely wrong and delusional to boot.
Sum up the left perfectly. Completely wrong and delusional to boot.
Sums up the right perfectly. Completely wrong and delusional to boot. And refuses to answer a question.
Dec 13, 2019 -- 7:24PM, Callisto-moon wrote:
so lets have an explanation as to what would happen then charles|!!!
I'll rewrite the OP and post it tomorrow.
So this is Corbyn's ideology? Jeez I didn't know that. No wonder you guys are elated at the election result.
However, what the professor didn't tell the students was that if one of the students were to campaign for such a system to be permanently implemented, many students will vote for him. The ones who don't want to study, the ones who get below average grades so will look forward to getting their grades boosted, the ones who hate the top graders and would love to bring them down etc. etc. They will all vote for him for the temporary boost.
That is exactly what Corbyn does. He targets a certain population to get into power. I don't think he, or any other politician, bothers about it all ending in disaster. It is politics. They won't be around when the shet hits the fan.
However, what the professor didn't tell the students was that if one of the students were to campaign for such a system to be permanently implemented, many students will vote for him. The ones who don't want to study, the ones who get below average grades so will look forward to getting their grades boosted, the ones who hate the top graders and would love to bring them down etc. etc. They will all vote for him for the temporary boost.
That is exactly what Corbyn does. He targets a certain population to get into power. I don't think he, or any other politician, bothers about it all ending in disaster. It is politics. They won't be around when the shet hits the fan.
An alternate story; perhaps its apocryphal -
Son: "Daddy, I have to write a special report for school, but I don't know what Politics is."
Father: "Well, let's take our home as an example. I am the bread-winner, so let's call me Capitalism. Your Mum is the administrator of money, so we'll call her Government. We take care of your need, so let's call you The People. We'll call the maid the Working Class and your brother we can call The Future. Do you understand son?"
Son: "I'm not really sure, Dad. I'll have to think about it."
That night awakened by his brother's crying, the boy went to see what was wrong. Discovering that the baby had seriously soiled his diaper, the boy went to his parents' room and found his mother sound asleep. He went to the maid's room, where, peeking through the keyhole, he saw his father in bed with the maid. The boy's knocking went totally unheeded by his father and the maid, so the boy returned to his room and went back to sleep.
The next morning he reported to his father.
Son: "Dad, now I think I understand what Politics is."
Father: "Good son! Can you explain it to me in your own words?"
Son: "Well Dad, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, Government is sound asleep, the People are being completely ignored and the Future is full of ****."
Son: "Daddy, I have to write a special report for school, but I don't know what Politics is."
Father: "Well, let's take our home as an example. I am the bread-winner, so let's call me Capitalism. Your Mum is the administrator of money, so we'll call her Government. We take care of your need, so let's call you The People. We'll call the maid the Working Class and your brother we can call The Future. Do you understand son?"
Son: "I'm not really sure, Dad. I'll have to think about it."
That night awakened by his brother's crying, the boy went to see what was wrong. Discovering that the baby had seriously soiled his diaper, the boy went to his parents' room and found his mother sound asleep. He went to the maid's room, where, peeking through the keyhole, he saw his father in bed with the maid. The boy's knocking went totally unheeded by his father and the maid, so the boy returned to his room and went back to sleep.
The next morning he reported to his father.
Son: "Dad, now I think I understand what Politics is."
Father: "Good son! Can you explain it to me in your own words?"
Son: "Well Dad, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, Government is sound asleep, the People are being completely ignored and the Future is full of ****."
I guess the two stories show the difference between capitalism and socialism. One is based on realism whilst the other is a joke.
Just seen Charlie’s insult above. The guy is clearly as thick as mince, can’t even understand basic English. And where is this rewrite we were promised?
All talk and no substance, like most deluded lefties.
All talk and no substance, like most deluded lefties.
Ah, I’ve just realised we’re dealing with a sock puppet in Charlie. Should have spotted it before I suppose.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
that sums up the pension system
that sums up the pension system
It’s a parable about socialism. And a very good one at that, clearly highlighting what happens whenever this flawed policy is put into practice. That is the truth that hurts. Nobody thought a professor actually inflicted such a cruel stunt on his students (well I didn’t anyway). He would be sacked.
I realise Charlie is butthurt over the election result, so suppose we’ll have to cut him slack.
I realise Charlie is butthurt over the election result, so suppose we’ll have to cut him slack.
talkmader liverpols finest tory scaffolder are you safe tonight la
Yes thank you Anxious. Have you forgotten mate? I’m not scaffolding anymore.
Take a deep breath and try again. Also, I wasn’t born in Liverpool, as I’ve told you before.
You’re 0 for 2.
You’re 0 for 2.
Why would I report you? You’re the gift that just keeps giving.
after they accused they accused people in Sheffield 89
Thatcher and her filth absolute vermin the witch and her cheerleaders
I’ve told you at least 3 times where I was born, but like most blinkered lefties you just see what you want to see and make up the rest. With typical abuse thrown in for good measure.
Anx,was that you playing Father Jack in the Father Ted series
You’re totally losing the plot, Anxious!
The last two days must have been miserable as sin in your smelly bedsit. Go get some fresh air or something, you’ll give yourself a coronary. It’s five years until the next election.
The last two days must have been miserable as sin in your smelly bedsit. Go get some fresh air or something, you’ll give yourself a coronary. It’s five years until the next election.
Anxious showing his true colours again. Despicable behaviour really.
I was born in Ireland, as I’ve told you many times already.
I have told you before several times. If you can’t be bothered to listen I can’t be bothered telling you again.
Given your current state of mind you probably just want to make up some racist abuse about my birthplace.
Keep a civil tongue in your head and ask nicely and I might tell you.
as if i a proud Mancunian would doff my cap to a balloon like yourself
And that’s why you will always be a loser, Anxious. Your behaviour on here surely reflects your behaviour in real life.
You know something talkmadder playing the big shot in front of your racist crew, but the reality is you are a very smallpiece of work hidden in your deluded Ivory tower , for you are nothing and a nobody always remember that you small person
Get your paper bag back, Anxious. You’re getting all worked up again. 
its a made up story, a made up parable
its poor as it simply makes zero sense
its poor as it simply makes zero sense
“Remember that you small person.”
Absolutely priceless!
Anxious is still butthurt about the result of Thursday’s election and has embarked on a PLEASE BAN ME hissy fit meltdown across several forums.
Absolutely priceless!
Anxious is still butthurt about the result of Thursday’s election and has embarked on a PLEASE BAN ME hissy fit meltdown across several forums.
chemical imbalances another pile of **** , big pharma and big profits
Dec 15, 2019 -- 1:24AM, anxious wrote:
once you know its all a game and nobody tells the truth about fook all , then you are on the way to sanity and freedom
first sensible thing you have ever said
I had to google it. Seroquel is a drug used to combat psychosis, depression and small penis syndrome. Poor fella. 
Dec 15, 2019 -- 1:26AM, Torquemada wrote:
I had to google it. Seroquel is a drug used to combat psychosis, depression and small penis syndrome. Poor fella.
yeh must be terrible to have a pin dìck
Dopamine , serotinin , gaba etc , they are all chemicals in the human body , so when you go potty they give it a fancy label
The best thing to do is take some valium and go and live in a farm for 2 years or something
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Dec 15, 2019 -- 1:30AM, anxious wrote:
The best thing to do is take some valium and go and live in a farm for 2 years or something
filthy tackle valium is, you can lose days upon days
Dec 15, 2019 -- 1:32AM, anxious wrote:
like a bottle of whisky ?
the benzos are addictive but they calm you down , like any thing its all brain rot
I always keep a flask of whiskey handy in case I see a snake - which I also keep handy.
I don’t think I have ever seen a snake. I suppose I must have some time but can’t remember it.
Yes it can. Cobra venom is used in several medicines.
Did you know - although many snakes are venomous, only two are poisonous?
I saw it on QI. I think a Russell’s Viper was one. Can’t remember the other one.
Googled it. The 2 poisonous snakes are the Japanese Grass Snake and the Common Garter Snake.
They’re not venomous, just poisonous. As long as you don’t eat them, they’re harmless.
As promised.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never given a single student An A grade before, but had recently given an entire class A grades. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on this ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade.…. (substituting grades for £ 's ) something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a D. The students who studied hard were content because they knew they had given their best but the students who studied little were uneasy knowing they had not pulled their weight.
As the second test rolled around, most of the students who had previously studied little realised that for their own good and for the greater good of the class they also needed to study hard. The students who had studied hard for the first test did so again because they liked to give their best.
The second test average was a C! Most of the students were happy because they could see that the class were pulling in the same direction.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was a B.
As the tests proceeded, the scores increased as the students realised that if they worked hard they would be rewarded and everyone would be better off.
The class wasn't surprised when for the final test they got an A grade. To the great surprise of the professor he had realised that socialism would benefit the many not just a few. When people work hard and receive ample reward everyone benefits. When the government favour a few and punish the many society becomes divided and disillusioned.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot force the poor into prosperity by increasing the wealth of the rich.
2. What one wealthy person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot produce a united nation by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that the government will make them wealthier they don't care who has to suffer. When the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation...
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never given a single student An A grade before, but had recently given an entire class A grades. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on this ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade.…. (substituting grades for £ 's ) something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a D. The students who studied hard were content because they knew they had given their best but the students who studied little were uneasy knowing they had not pulled their weight.
As the second test rolled around, most of the students who had previously studied little realised that for their own good and for the greater good of the class they also needed to study hard. The students who had studied hard for the first test did so again because they liked to give their best.
The second test average was a C! Most of the students were happy because they could see that the class were pulling in the same direction.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was a B.
As the tests proceeded, the scores increased as the students realised that if they worked hard they would be rewarded and everyone would be better off.
The class wasn't surprised when for the final test they got an A grade. To the great surprise of the professor he had realised that socialism would benefit the many not just a few. When people work hard and receive ample reward everyone benefits. When the government favour a few and punish the many society becomes divided and disillusioned.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot force the poor into prosperity by increasing the wealth of the rich.
2. What one wealthy person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot produce a united nation by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that the government will make them wealthier they don't care who has to suffer. When the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation...
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