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dustybin
05 Dec 19 17:13
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There are around 270,000 jews in this country and 10% of whom vote Labour

Meanwhile there are 2,700,000 Muslims and 80% of them vote Labour.

The tories seemingly dont care about the Muslim vote which they have alienated and are 1/17 to win most seats

So why dont Labour just say 'so what?'
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Report moisok December 5, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
that is waycyst - oh hang on  - they ain't err  a  race

ummm  right  - I will be back with a card later
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 5:32 PM GMT
I just cant understand it, everyday Labour are getting in knots over something that makes very little impact on the result.
Even if Labour went extra vigilant on it the majority of Jews would still not vote for those types of policies anyway given a larger percentile are affluent.
The tories dont seem to be too arsed about their Muslim issues.
Report Dr Crippen December 5, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
It's not just a case of votes lost or gained from Jews or Muslims, it's case of how each party is perceived by the rest of the electorate.
And the perception is that Labour is a party where anti-Semitism is allowed.

And worse is that anyone who votes Labour is likely to be tarred with the same brush.
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 5:58 PM GMT
As Lincoln himself said; 'You cant please all the people....'

If you take a stance on a polemic subject like the Palestinian plight then you are choosing sides, somebody is going to get upset.
Report saddo December 5, 2019 7:19 PM GMT
Meanwhile there are 2,700,000 Muslims and 80% of them vote Labour.




If only there were still so few, office of national statistics put it at 3.3 million last year, and that'll be a lie Sad
Report lfc1971 December 5, 2019 7:46 PM GMT
In Nazi Germany the Jews were a minority as well
Maybe the people there had a similar mindset to dustybin and thought it didn’t matter
Report Dr Crippen December 5, 2019 8:32 PM GMT
It's shocking how little weight these lefties put on racism when it's their own racism that's under scrutiny.

If it were another political party treating an ethnic group as shabbily as they're treating these people, they'd be shouting from the rooftops and calling everybody Nazis.

What a bunch of hypocrites these Labour supporters have turned out to be.
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 8:46 PM GMT
I dont know whether the accusations are anti-semitic or just down to a group of people who had found a home in the ideology of the tories following thatcher's courting of them....and the subsequent moving to the left after Blair. Milliband was a Jew himself ofc.
What about the whole preaching aspect at large?
Isnt that against the rights of humans who dont subscribe to religion for eg?

Not exclusive to Judaism ofc, but if a collective call themselves 'god's people' that infers anyone not in their clique isn't god's chosen ones. Its the nastiest trick devised by man....yet for some reason its permissable without any credible evidence at all.
Report UBLE/REGY December 5, 2019 8:50 PM GMT
Labour have a right to support Palestine, I do

To dislike Jews just for being Jews would be very wrong...and would be anti Semitic

But they are allowed to take sides on the Palestine issue
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 8:51 PM GMT
Apparently theres a 'dossier' compiled against Corbyn et al. I dont know what the accusations are because they are reported in the Telegraph and other right leaning publications and they want me to pay them to reveal it.
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 9:04 PM GMT
The point of the opening comment was simply a statement of fact regarding often used accusation and counter accusation between political parties to destabalise each other. If one is guilty of prejudism then they both are...if one isnt then perhaps neither are. If politics is allowed to target groups of voters on policy then it stands to reason you dont go after certain voters. Thats not to say hate should come into it, but from a numbers perspective I just dont see why Labour who are possibly guilty of criticism of Israel should worry too much about lost votes.
Report dustybin December 5, 2019 9:06 PM GMT
For the rcord anti semitism (whatever that happens to be) is wrong.

I support SWFC and swear at blades supporters, who swear back. Is that hate crime?
Report crystalhunt December 5, 2019 9:07 PM GMT
I have no doubt that if you are a Tory voter you are far more likely to be a racist or antisemitic than if you vote Labour or LibDem. The Tory Party has a long history of racism and it's only in recent years that it has made any effort to address the issue.
Report Dotchinite December 5, 2019 9:18 PM GMT
I wouldnt be so sure of that. I think its possible that one or two people in the working mens clubs in poor areas could be a little bit racist. Some might even be homophobic as well.
Report Dr Crippen December 5, 2019 9:57 PM GMT
Ridiculous stuff from crystalhunt.

I'd never read such bilge.
Report crystalhunt December 5, 2019 10:01 PM GMT
What's your problem - I suppose you think it's the other way round.
Report Dr Crippen December 5, 2019 10:04 PM GMT
You can suppose what you like.

It looks like you do anyway if that post is anything to go by.
Report jucel69 December 5, 2019 10:08 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2019 -- 7:19PM, saddo wrote:


Meanwhile there are 2,700,000 Muslims and 80% of them vote Labour.If only there were still so few, office of national statistics put it at 3.3 million last year, and that'll be a lie


They are 15% of the prison population too! Frightening statsAngry

Report jucel69 December 5, 2019 10:09 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2019 -- 10:08PM, jucel69 wrote:


Dec  5, 2019 --  7:19PM, saddo wrote:Meanwhile there are 2,700,000 Muslims and 80% of them vote Labour.If only there were still so few, office of national statistics put it at 3.3 million last year, and that'll be a lieThey are 15% of the prison population too! Frightening stats


and that's from 2016, bound to more now

Report ZEALOT December 9, 2019 8:33 AM GMT
who cares ?
Report BARROWBOY December 9, 2019 8:54 AM GMT
Not sure about dusty bins original assertion that only10% of Jews are labour voters.jewish people in this country have a long history of support for the labour movement,that’s the real labour movement not the momentum rabble that have hijacked the party.
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