Where does all the NHS money go?

You could give the NHS 50 million a day and it still wouldn't be enough, too many pen pushers on backhanders with contracts.

you got i8t dambuster its not just the nhs ,a few years back there was a report on the mod spending and for example they were buying toilet rolls at around £2 per roll and have been for untold years ,you could put a tender in and offer the same for 10p each but you wouldnt get the contract because its brown envelopes that have been passed under the table and will continue till for the end of days ,goes on everywhere .

not just khazi rolls everything down to knives and forks plates nails screws pens paper the whole shebang .

I heard a quote of £14 for a ream of A4 somewhere not all that long ago.  Absolute money swamp that seriously needs draining.

yep and fook all will be done

As I've said on other threads, everything the NHS buys and the price they pay should be made public.  It's our taxes that support it, after all.  It's the only way to stop companies massively overcharging.

you could offer the items for free and you still wouldnt win the contracts

All the above spot on, I dealt with the NHS and when Maggie got in it was flooded with 'Managers' etc etc, (maybe prep for Privatision?) the writing was on the wall then.

Blaming managers/pen pushers alone is rubbish. plenty of nurses and docs shouldn't be anywhere near the job.

Read this and try not to get sick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/PD0zqQlsDt/our_sons_final_days_Mark_Stuart

Sex changes and drugs and rock n roll.

Racingqueen, I agree 100% with you, my badly made point was that's when a large part of their budgets were diverted to top heavy management, (who had no medical qualifications) the doctors I spoke to were mightly pissed off by this. when I said the writing was on the wall I should have explained this was clear to see as care standards visibly changed for the worse as each year went by the whole culture changed.

I won't bore you with my personal problems with the NHS, exept this one. A virus attacked my heart in 2013, unluckily for me at the weekend, I didn't see the 'Specialist' untill mid day monday, who told me It had been 'touch and go' as to wether I would survived the weekend!, at this point the dopey nurse asked his if I could be sent home. He explained to her that I was very ill and going nowhere, and started to sort out my treatment, at which point I said can I have antibiotics as I was 'rattling' with pneumonia, he amongst other medications put me on an antibiotic drip.

Like many peopke I know I too have had many bad experiences with the NHS. So perhaps before calling my contributions rubbish, you might extend to me the courtesy of asking me to explain, instead of posting links.

Boxing, sorry for confusion. my point was meant in general response to the theme that removing vast swathes of administrators would resolve all the NHS issues. I hadn't read your post before my response.

My point is that nurses and Docs are given a free ride when looking at resource issues within the NHS. A percentage are incompetent useless and at worse dangerous and genuine accountability would be the first step

Thanks mate, perhaps I should be extended to you the courtesy of an explanation. Sorry for tje cinfusiom.

I'm closing my como

I'm closing my comp down (as treathened 1/2 hours ago)GN and GL guys.

I think my laptop is fcked, that should have said.....I'm closing my comp down. As threatened !/2 an hours ago, I think I maybe a forum addict,...........OOOOOHHH NNNOOOO who do I turn to.????????????.

All government supply contracts should be in the public domain. They cite commercial confidentiality as an excuse to keep their inefficient purchasing a secret. If they were all public knowledge we'd be able to easily identify the crooks.

Zacly

I had the misfortune of having to be in one of the treatment rooms, that was newly decorated.

A nurse was telling me that it had cost close to £1200 to paint the walls!

I asked how long it took to do it, and she said it was done in one day...

When I told her I was shocked she said "I know, but the paint was expensive"!

It had been done more than three weeks earlier, and there were two tiles missing on the ceiling, and six framed print
on the floor in one corner.

She said the new treatment chairs were £3.5k each, but the were nothing special, not electrically adjustable etc.

Two months later we were back, and the ceiling and prints were still not sorted!

Most Dr's are clueless the experienced nurses run the wards for half the wages, although not sure what this thread is about, if it's Brexit and support of Johnson then it is the lowest of the low.

our new high speed railway shows how good all governments are at keeping spending under control

Have to wonder how we will be taxed, and on what trumped up basis, when a fair few percentage of us are forced,
or elect to, having electric cars!

Any thoughts on that one?

I'm thinking that, whatever else they do, they will hit the ones who are left, burning petrol and diesel!

Then what about HGVs, farm tractors, and the like? No way can they be electric!
If our illustrious,forward thinking government, attempt to penalise this sector, there will be anarchy!
Actually, the way things are going, there will be anarchy long before we get to that position!

Additionally, from where is this power to come?

I've seen a few times the admission that if there is some major event on tv, that it's a fine balancing act, to prepare for the demand as millions switch on kettles during the breaks!

I put in a F of I request regarding a contractor (and their contract) with the NHS.

It was turned down as it's a deal between a govt body and a private company. I believe there are efforts to make contracts public but for obvious reasons many don't us to see them....

In other news I know of a Bank nurse who got £600 for one shift on a Sunday.

If you were to announce that, in six months, you were going to go into a chain of supermarkets and spend £ several million - you weren't specifying on what or what you hoped to achieve, just that you were going to spend £ several million and keep spensing that over the course of the next five years.

What do you think might happen?

Do you think, maybe the supermarkets and their entire suppy chain might increase their prices? Do you think the supermarkets might take on a few extra highly-adept b0110ck-juglers because they knew they were going to get extra cash, they didn't have to earn it and it was pretty much guarranteed because the money had been ring fenced and , hey, you can't have too many b0110ck-jugglers in a retail environment, can you?

We need a Royal Commission to decide what the NHS is for in the 21st century. B00b-jobs? Tattoo Removal? Liposuction? What?

We need political parties focussing on clinical outcomes rather than dewy-eyed sentiment about 'our NHS'

We need to stop telling the lie of care being 'free at the point of service' and tell the truth - that it's 'taxpayer funded at the point of service'

We need a National Helath Service - not an International Health Service