THE MOST TERRIFYING PROSPECT OF TODAY'S TERRORIST ATTCK.......

In a statement, Mr Merritt's family described him as a "talented boy" who "died doing what he loved".
"We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary," the statement read.

Incredible tbh do these people have injured Brains , Some lunatic has stabbed your Son to death , and they are worried about Draconian sentences

how many illegals

10 a day - 120 open ports - 365 days in a year  over the last 10 years 

you lot work it out

ps forget the rubber boats

Dec 2, 2019 -- 1:57PM, casemoney wrote:

In a statement, Mr Merritt's family described him as a "talented boy" who "died doing what he loved"."We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary," the statement read.Incredible tbh do these people have injured Brains , Some lunatic has stabbed your Son to death , and they are worried about Draconian sentences

Liberal Leftist pc common sense gone

They still have to mix with the people in Jack's bubble tbf.

you go through all sorts of sensible political theory hoops and discussions then ..........

I just guess some people are just plain bonkers!

The parents of a girl in Germany by one of Angelas mob said the same. I think they were in the victim industry also.

*murdered girl

where would it have to go for the progressives to change their minds because it is rife in political, civil service and educational circles

Upon reflection, saddo, you might not be too far off. 6 million seemed high to me, but it was up to > 4 million, 3 years ago.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

It sort of defeats your own argument though, because there is a lot more of them but still only 1 or 2 nutters coming out of the woodwork every so often. By extension the other 99.99% are just normal poeple.

parents standing up dead sons work and wishes described as bonkers by the lock,m up flogging brigade, CLASSY

Had the Vermin still been in Prison their Son would be Alive has this not Crossed their Minds , You cannot make these People up .

The So called work is Leading to Dangerous Offenders including Terrorists and Murderers back on to our Streets  ..

The Son is DEAD  ,But they appear to think it is the way forward 

Richie, come stay with me for a week at my expense. See how 'normal' it seems when there are several hundred thousand of em within ten miles.

What is this "isolated incident" they refer to in their open statement to the public?

Mo its the Agenda ,  unfortunately on this Occasion the wheels fell off , Did we not have a recent Knife awareness course where some one was Murdered ,Another fine Luvvie Idea ,lets get a load of Knife Gang people to meet up ,what
could possibly go wrong ............

SO TO FOLLOW THE LOGIC THROUGH ANYONES kid been killed whilst on active duty should campaign to dismantle the army,navy etc

"isolated incident"  Yes

The same as the thousands of Isolated incidents where thousands of young girls have been raped and Some even murdered by
Members of the Same mob , No doubt early release and School Care taking jobs will be sorted out .

or any dr,nurse,policemen etc hurt carrying out their work isan excuse not treat,help the public

You couldn't even guess how disproportionate the number of rapist taxi drivers in this couyty compared to the national average.

SO TO FOLLOW THE LOGIC

If it wasn't for Our friends Beliefs , How many of those killed on active duty would be still with us ??

Do you mean London, saddo? I was there for 5 years and never noticed anything. It's not even possible to tell someones religion by looking at them, most asians are non-muslim Indians, surely?

Infact is there any war our troops are sent to that does not involved THE BELIEVERS ??

obviously if these 2 kids had been charging ,earning 1000,s of pounds for their believes the hang,m and flog,m brigade would be saying what a noible service they were providing.the idea of trying to do good for little or no reward doesn't register with the fruitcakes and loonies

It's not for us to prescribe the reaction of anyone facing the agony of anyone dealing with the murder of their children. They deserve to be heard with the utmost sympathy.

But it’s not for them to tell us or our political leaders how to react, any more than if they were demanding the return of the death penalty. In our society, we don’t and shouldn’t let victims decide on justice, either way around. It’s not their job and they’re in no position to do it properly.

London isn't England Richie, like most major Capitals it is part Disney, part shanty.

I just wonder how many progressives on here live with it.

seems Johnson firting off from the hip like raab before him thought his parents would just lie down meekily and support whatever nonsense ,liers Johnson came out with,some powerful statements coming out from the ladsfather,friends,workmsates in media, seems the lad had tried to do more with his privileged education before the age of 25 than the lazy selfish Johnson has managed in his entire life,
might not play in to election final result but could well go down badly for Johnson in his uxbridge const,where he needs every vote

seems joihnson latest claim live on tv that he talked about ending automatic early release in his 2012 mayoral manifesto is yet another lie by Johnson, as reporters have gone through it, does he think no one checks these things out,apparently Theres a few vague lines about tougher sentences,a line trodden out by every tory candidate who,s stood for election to anything

Yes, and Johnson is up against this most fragrant of individuals, who we can see is a textbook example of the new Islamic Labour Party.

You can see why left-wing "progressives" will be supporting this individual.   

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https://order-order.com/people/ali-milani/

Whatever politicians may say the public want this preventable killings by cowards/terrorists from the Islam faith to stop - period. Nothing less can be accepted, I firmly believe; rhetoric after rhetoric do not mean anything unless it's stopped for good. Thus, start with the perpetrators, and their connections eg family, relatives, faith, friends, etc.

I think the family plays a big part in their education otherwise this cowardice killings would not be this religion specific. My take is start targeting the possible sources and causes of this cowardice act; put political correctness in the back burner for the time being. And, shoot 1st talk later - that's my motto for this cowardice act.

that means there,s no difference in blowing up 50 people or a teenager thinking about attacking London from a submarine up the thames on the back of a ciggy pkt in his bedroom, then throw in life for far right plots,irish plots,all those who took camerons advice and went and fought in Syria would now be locked up for life instead of been tory hero,s
its akin to giving the same sentence to a robber who has a gun  but doesn't use it as a robber who shoots someone and kills them
a terrorist carrying a knife gets life sentence ,1000,s of lads on a weekend carrying a knife get a warning

too many mental health units shut down over the years

as life gets more and more stressful you will have more and more random lunatic events

There's only ONE WAY TO STOP THESE TERRORISTS.
Everything else has failed..
I'll pull the rope or switch on the electric, or give the injection if nobody else fancies it

If any terrorist attacks any passerby with the intention to kill brandishing a weapon eg a knife yes shoot 1st, talk later to incapacitate the offender; if offender deems to be wearing a suicide vest shoot-to-kill must be implemented as the lives of police officers and others are in serious jeopardy.

The authorities need to send a strong and unequivocal message to these cowards/terrorists who prey on the innocent and ordinary folks; the messages must be detrimental and absolute - no 2nd chance. It's tough, but absolutely necessary to deal with this cowardice act.

Drugs dealers and murderers in some countries face the automatic death penalty - no mitigation.

no ones arguing with any of the above,this attacker was jailed for what at the time was described as a schoolboy pie in the sky,walty mitty style plot, Johnson says in future he,d never get out even after 14 years without parole board input,which draws no distinction to islamist,right wing,ira,nationalist,hate crime plots cooked up in bedrooms,or blowing up multiple people

Build a Guatamano type prison for the FILTH and let them ROT

gove was persuaded to build 3 similar blocks but built 2 and that's proved 2 to many as they've currently got 22 people in them and have been considered by all those involved to have failed

I WOULD PUT YOU IN THEIR  MUG

I,ll report you to Johnson and you,ll get 14 years no parole

What did the judge of the coward Islamic terrorist killer say in his trial? If only his opinion had been adopted.

I don't think you will change them and it is their duty to lie anyway

hope this helps

The press in full Swing.

'Jack would be livid his death has been used to further an agenda of hate'

No surprise it's The Guardian.


The people need protection against this vermin. All the press do is churn out the same sad propaganda.

People are being murdered.

ITS THE GUARDIAN NO
ITS HIS FATHER

LIVERPOOL 2 BRIGHTON 1

is the same if its in the guardian , express or mail

I expect the father is a lifelong Guardian reader.

OH THE IRONY

We don't base our criminal justice policy on the wishes of victims or their families.

We give them support and sympathy and (silently) thank the Lord that it's not us and hope it never will be.

But we categorically do not change political policy because of what a victim or their loved ones say in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy. Liam Neeson was roundly castigated for wanting to kill black people after a friend of his was attacked by one.

We no more thought this was a reasonable, proportionate response than we should the thoughts of Jack Merrits father.

Personal emotion and feeling can skew one's normal and rational direction of views, but it's understandable. However, Islamic terrorism or any form of terrorism by any entity on the streets of London and elsewhere cannot/must not be tolerated - despicable behaviours and acts must be thwarted and/or stopped permanently.

Similarly, the demand and prominence of one minority group/community in UK cities/towns and British Politics over another or others cannot/must not be tolerated or allowed to happen esp if that community chooses to refrain from integration, the use of English in public workplaces, acceptance of British values, customs and traditions.

I believe Islamophobia is an overused term by the community to achieve and facilitate their dominance over another eg to attract attention and to gain importance and advantage over others. Personally, I think Islamophobia is a "subtle" racist term concocted to suit, and counterproductive as it only refers to one dominant minority group eg no Christianityphobia, Judaismphobia, Hinduismphobia, Buddhismphobia, etc. I believe other minority groups are keeping shtum, but realise, understand and monitoring situation awaiting direction or outcome of the ramifications of Islamophobia.

The UK are a tolerant and fair country to individuals and communities who are law abiding, courteous, open-minded and willing to integrate to achieve a cohesive British society conducive to going forward successfully - socially and economically. That's my motto of immigration.

Hardly the behaviour of a group of schoolboys in bedroom talk,they even went to Pakistan to assess the funding and construction of a terrorist training camp and Khan was one of the 3 most extreme of the group.The para below is from the Guardian, it could be your average member of the Labour party nowadays with those targets !



The extremists talked about setting off a pipe bomb in the toilets of the London Stock Exchange, as well as in pubs in Stoke, the Woolwich court heard. A handwritten target list belonging to the group listed the names and addresses of the then London mayor, Boris Johnson, the Dean of St Paul’s Cathedral, two rabbis, the US embassy in London and the stock exchange.

These Islamic terrorists are cowards and only only target peaceful and innocent bystanders in the City of London and UK. Thus must be stopped by whatever means eg shoot-to-kill if brandishing a deadly weapon or wearing a suicide vest (fake or not); indefinite detention in secured prisons with parole available after 40/50 years.

"Its perhaps noteworthy that this attack come only a few weeks after UK"S TERROR ALERT WAS DOWNGRADED"
"There has been unusually mixed message in the media,suggesting deeper than usual divisions somewhere in the  heart of the deep state".
"The latest polls put the UK in "hung parliament terroritory" and given the coverage of both the incident and the election in general,its becoming ever more likely that this is the desired outcome".

What does the parents of the poor girl have to say, ?
If they say hang all terrorists, would the Guardian print it.?

And where are all the Imams condeming this atrocity, ?
i've not seen any of them.

the father could say my sons been murdered under a tory government who,ve been in power for 9 years promising to keep us ALL safer and now using his death as an excuse to increase sentences that they could have done on any day over the past 9 years, BUT UNLIKE JOHNSON THE BLOKE HAD A LITTLE MORE CLASS

But Corbyn created the law. And he poses with the terrorists.

What ever happened to our nameless face blacked out(in some of the press)knife grabbing hanky dropping hero?

He was illuminati

ITS THE GUARDIAN NO
ITS HIS FATHER


I know that. I'm not feckin stupid. The Guardian can't get the message out fast enough.

Wake up.

Another apologist more concerned about the filth committing these crimes than the victims.

The British Left have maybe finally realised that Islamists couldn't give a damn about them, and won't hesitate to kill them given any sort of opportunity. Friday's events proved that yet again. This latest Islamist Terrorist actually murdered people who were trying and help them.

The Left's subsequent reaction though has (typically) been tragically delusional :

- Zero criticism of the killer Khan

- The killings and motivations of the killer were "unknown" but Definitely Nothing To Do With Islam

- We must learn to love Islamist Terrorists

- Anyone who wants to crack down on Islamic Terror, and give longer sentences to be served in full is pursuing "The Agenda of Hate".

Our politicians could have taken a leaf out of the book of New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern when referring to that scumbag white supremacist terrorist in the shooting dead of 50 Muslims in a Christchurch mosque - she did not name the cowardice killer.

and so unfortunately named - KHAN!!

Glad it's not just me who is staggered by Mr Merrit's Father.

He even used the word 'slash' regarding budget cuts. Mind boggling...

He says his son would be horrified if he knew his death would be leading to 'hate' and 'throw away the key' style imprisonment.

I had to do a double take.. I thought Khan was the one expressing hate?!!!

I thought his son would be still alive if we had tougher sentencing??? Surely more 'love' towards the majority would have kept these 2 people alive???

Did this father feel the bloke with the fire extinguisher was a little too aggressive??

1st time poster comes on the forum, gets shot down in flames by detraveller, and dissapears.

One of the victim's dad was speaking for his dead son, not the 2nd victim or others injured by the convicted Islamic terrorist - it was merely his opinion. Others have remained silent probably still raw with anger and grief how it could have happened in The UK so soon again.

Which other country that repeatedly experienced terrorism of this kind since 9/11 has not named the killer/s? I believe a strong deterrent is the absolute minimum going forward eg a long imprisonment without parole for many decades. If not born in The UK deportation a must post serving sentence - rehabilitated or not whilst in prison.

I thought Khan was the one expressing hate?



or was just mentally ill  ....

terrorist attacker
1,suicide bomber
2,killed in the act
3,killed in the aftermath by firearms officer

wtf would a longer prison sentence be a deterrent

said it before its like a kamakazie pilot paying the mortgage before taking off

all this outrage over two sad deaths by an islamist  and we have them every day in Landan with Khan, Dick May and Abbott all contributing to the complete chaos on the street  not just deaths but thousands of stabbings, fights, intimidation

we get the politicos saying they will do this and that about this khan incident but nothing happening about the daily slaughter wounding and plain nastiness

in fact the four above all wanted stop and search curtailed  as it was racist

you simply wonder??  and abbott will get a 30,000 majority

Do you lot still hate all Irish people (by your definition they were all terrorists in the 1970-80's weren't they?) and/or all Catholics (again by your def all terrorists) or even just hate the (rep snd unionist) terrorists and what they did? Please bear in mind a chunk of you voted for a party (and many more sympathies with it) that has pro IRA  sympathisers on record saying:

"We defend the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom."

In relation to the Warrington bombing (where children were killed) in 1993? Imagine if Corbyn said that about this - this thread would be about 100 pages long. I will now watch the (Russian) tumbleweeds role in regard to the forthcoming answers to this post...........

I do not and never have with the Irish; just cautious when out and about in public places staying vigilant in case coming across a suspicious package or something. But, I did curse a lot when held up in traffic jams due to incidents owing to them.

But, one cannot compare the IRA with the Islamic terrorist  they are like chalk and cheese eg the Irish were/are neighbours; fully integrated in society; sociable; non-dominance; speak English; etc. Can one say the same about the Islamic Community?

suppose when the card comes along with your number on, do the family of the kid and 6 others injured by a car ploughing into them deliberately,feel any better or worse than those killed by a terrorist attack 3 days earlier

apparently the car driver was known to police an episode of some sort not unexpected, another **** up

The father of a man killed in the London Bridge terror attack has launched a stinging attack on Boris Johnson, accusing him of using his son’s death to “make political capital” and taking the country “for a ride”.

Has the Lad been buried ??

If my Son had been stabbed to death by a Lunatic 2 weeks ago , I would hardly be interested in what people were saying

And he is still saying it should not have a bearing on future Rehabilitation ,are these people for real  ??

It defies belief case.

His son's killer was a student of Anjem Choudray, yet his anger is directed at the PM??? Unreal.

Thick as ****

It defies belief case.

His son's killer was a student of Anjem Choudray, yet his anger is directed at the PM??? Unreal.

This is a perfect illustration of the car-crash of Modern Lefty politics for you.  A world where Terrorists are Victims.

......Or it shows why a TV camera or a reporters microphone should never be pointed at someone suffering in a way I hope none of us ever do

As surprising as the fathers words are, they don't stop the PM from enforcing tougher parole laws etc. A convenient excuse for the govt to just continue to do nothing.

If the father had said parole in such cases should be made harder, would that have meant Boris would be working on new laws right now?

The father didn't want the death politicizing, but.............

' London Bridge terror victim planned to vote tactically to oust Tories, his dad reveals'

I've every sympathy to the dead lad's father nevertheless, I'd like to see whatever have gone wrong to allow this convicted Islamic terrorist to do what he did in that room to be reviewed/overhaul and lessons learnt from.

On this occasion the death of a young lad with a generous outlook on people in need, and in general must not be used to dictate the future of any convicted Islamic terrorist or mental health offenders perpetrating this type of crime on the streets of London and elsewhere - the safety of the public is paramount ahead of any politics or emotions of families of victims.

A lesson must be learnt from this to ensure it's never repeated ever again even if it means the liberty of an offender of this kind is at stake. Tough!

One interesting item in todays paper is that Khan had been into drugs. Lost count of the number of times this habit comes up in the aftermath of such atrocities.Cant be 100 % responsible but often noted.Maybe its not the religion but more their playtime habits that influenced behaviour ?

Of course ! The gear made 'em do it ! Why has it taken us so long to realise this simple fact ?

Then again , where are all the indigenous coke heads slaughtering innocent folk on various bridges up and down the country ? Doh !

I've just googled 'Smackheads in suicide vests' ............................... No matching results

The conclusion that I come to is it has nothing to do with Islam - it can't be as there is nothing in the media about this islamic attack.  Why don't all you reactionary freaks climb back into your caves.

Thank you and happy winterval.

These Rehab Supporters , Should take the ex Prisoners in as Lodgers they can let them know that we are all Loving caring people , in the Case of rapists A young wife or daughter running around the House will be appreciated by the Ex con .....

Where no females Present a Jar of VAZ  to Protect the back door is Advised ..

Sarcasm apart,their drug habits might explain the readiness to take their religious beliefs to the extreme while others get on with their lives. Not all druggies go onto violence and not all muslims do but the combination of two is a worry.

whatever you knuckledraggers say it will definitely be OUR FAULT

Big apologies for not voting for your good self as chit chatter of the year moisy,your erudite insight into the working of Labour politics has entertained all year but you were just edged out on my shortlist

Please select one or more of the following to distract and divert conversation from the actual issues under discussion:

The perpetrator had mental health issues.

The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

I know a Doctor who is Muslim and has saved 1000s of lives.

Islam is the Religion of Peace and these people do not represent Islam.

The West has caused all this by attacking Muslim countries.

It's all about the oil.

Anders Breivik.

Israel.

The Far Right has provoked this.

It is cultural and nothing to do with Islam.

A woman was abused for wearing the hijab on a bus in Burnley.

It is written in the holy book and therefore is the law.

If you disrespect the prophet you are provoking a backlash.

The murder of Jo Cox by a right-wing extremist.

Poor, uneducated, promising footballer / rapper and a victim of police surveillance / racism

A mouth-watering list of obfuscations indeed Hank.

Can I please add one shocking omission :  "The Tories are responsible for most racism in Britain because Johnson referred to a woman wearing a burqa as looking like a "letter box".

FOOTBALL PUNDIT  SAYS .............YACK YACK YACK  AND Johnson's fault etc

The fact that you have elections in a few days and no one has even bothered holding the tories responsible for all the imports they have carried out in the last decade goes to show that people will never be able to look past Islam, or the lefty nonsense they are fed. And the politicians will milk it like they are milking brexit. The public opinion does not matter, because the public never holds the decision makers responsible. Never.

and let's not forget the public had no reaction to the govt letting a convicted terrorist roam around the city. I mean, not even a protest. In fact not a single parent of the 3 people affected had a problem with that.

BOOM BANG A BANG  - now who sang that song or something like it?

ah ha  it were dear ole lulu - there you go

we can call it a 'LULU' every time it happens

basu and his lot say it's the 'right' who are rising not these one or two bearded chappies - just how many 'incident' (as dear Dianne calls them) have we had?    there's more killings in a week with diaspora and her client base in landan than anything the 'peaceful ones' contribute.

But then that has a lot to do with MAY, KAHN, DICK AND ABBOT - they don't want anyone caught with knives on their person.  Especially coming up to winterval - who is going to carve the turkey if they polis take them all away!!??

Brilliant Hanx.

Oh look, another disciple of Choudary is roaming our streets. Known as the Ginger Jihadi..

'A ginger-bearded extremist who was jailed for setting up a stall in Oxford Street to drum up support for ISIS is still posting inflammatory messages online after being let out.

Ibrahim Anderson, 40, who is a follower of hate preacher Anjem Choudary, was jailed for three years in 2016 after setting up the stall outside Topshop in 2014.

But Anderson, who was caught after outraged Muslim sisters challenged him, showed his Facebook followers an image of an AK-47 assault rifle placed in front of a prayer mat after being released from prison.
'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7771611/Extremist-Ibrahim-Anderson-jailed-ISIS-Oxford-Street-stall-posts-photos-AK-47-Facebook.html