London Bridge closed off after gunshots heard.

Well do you suggest some form or sending people back ?

You have second generations here now

Certainly, every one of those illegals to start with.

read what Libya's great leader said about it all

ps and it is far too late - enjoy yourself while you can

That is a different issue though i agree , but im not trying to be biased here but the tories have been in power for 9 years what have they done about the situation

They are just as culpable  as blair was and the freedom of movement

the Establishment , big business , the square mile  all want cheap Labour

That is Globalism not Socialism

In military campaigns one builds up ones forces with the aim of concentrating to achive an aim/hegemony or a breakthrough.

anxious 29 Nov 19 23:39 
the Establishment , big business , the square mile  all want cheap Labour




They do, and the country has paid the price by subsidising these non tax payers, making it possible to arrive here and not earn enough to live on, it has to stop.

It will be interesting when those two forces clash - Turkey will be interesting - but two people lie dead on our streets and no one,  just no one has done sod all about it now or previous. And no one will do anything about it in the near future.

You heard it here first

Film on 2, time for a Monkey Shoulder, good night.

Nov 29, 2019 -- 11:47PM, moisok wrote:

It will be interesting when those two forces clash - Turkey will be interesting - but two people lie dead on our streets and no one,  just no one has done sod all about it now or previous. And no one will do anything about it in the near future.You heard it here first

How many would need to die in a single event for there to be action?

I don't think the muslim agenda want this to happen. They are taking over by stealth anyway.
It's the long game even if it takes a few hundred years

the gaddafi effect   - exactly

Dutch police say three people have been injured in a stabbing incident in The Hague's main shopping street, Grote Marktstraat, shortly before 9pm local time.

you forgot the huge growth in right wing incidents we have been warned about

Kevlar vests to go shopping ffs

What would be the tipping point in the UK?
Is it close or are people still mainly apathetic?

It's the long game even if it takes a few hundred years

All the leading authorities on demographic study (Pew, Migration observatory etc) conclude that an Islamic majority is likely this century.

Sentenced in 2012 for plotting to bomb the stock exchange & plotting to set up a terrorist training camp in pakistan, he was released in 2018

I'd like to know how these so called sophisticated terrorists always manage to get caught before they can carry these bombings

Do they literally post it on facebook or something?

The last person to sign off on these ***** being released early should be held responsible for their future actions. That might focus their minds a little, eh?

Nov 30, 2019 -- 1:24AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

I'd like to know how these so called sophisticated terrorists always manage to get caught before they can carry these bombingsDo they literally post it on facebook or something?

a combination of things, being stupid, being on watch lists and grasses I think

Nov 30, 2019 -- 12:19AM, lux wrote:

It's the long game even if it takes a few hundred yearsAll the leading authorities on demographic study (Pew, Migration observatory etc) conclude that an Islamic majority is likely this century.

They concluded that at the beginning of the century and i think had half of Europe as muslim majority by 2050. Then our governments conveniently imported more.

and apart from Hungary I don't know a single government that intends to stop it in the near future.

Why is it that no mps past or present ever face charges of endangering the public when ever one of their imported  mistakes kills someone?

because its only us so called plebs that are in danger,so when mp,s tell us they are tough on crime we should ask why after all these incidents are they nearly always known to the police,it looks that their rights (all criminals) come before law abbiding citizens

conference for rehabilitating ex offenders including terrorists bang in centre of Capital. (WHo pays for that??)
Location clearly chosen on budget cutting grounds.

Oh the irony.

they go there say they are sorry and then someone says thats okay you are now rehabilitated

Are you sure about that or did you just make it up

If you did not knew already, the establishment does not care about us.

Khan had previously been arrested on December 20, 2010, four days before he and his nine-strong Al-Qaeda-inspired gang had planned to plant a bomb in the toilets of the London Stock Exchange.

The gang also carried out surveillance of other possible targets including Big Ben, Westminster Abbey, the Palace of Westminster and the London Eye.

The group planned to send five bombs in the post to London synagogues and the Church of Scientology headquarters, as well as spreading panic in Stoke-on-Trent by planting bombs in pub and club toilets.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7740295/Knife-attacker-shot-dead-London-Bridge-known-police-security-sources-reveal.html

At what point does 'anti semitic' and 'Islam' get mentioned by politicians?

At what point does 'anti semitic' and 'Islam' get mentioned by politicians?

It won't. As I said yesterday, they deliberately avoid it so you remain convinced they are hiding or protecting something.

The real questions people should be asking are:

At what point do we hold Theresa May responsible for the systematic ineffectiveness of the police?
At what point do we hold the security forces 'answerable' for letting someone with a proven terrorism record roam freely?
At what point do we stop people at our borders and say we've had enough?

Since people never ask those questions, politicians have it very easy and they really don't need to give two fks about what the public i s saying. At bst 2 more days and this will be forgotten.

I think the politicians will wait until there is trouble on the streets, saves any need for discussion.

The guy was killed. People did not know him. It was a clean slate.

They could have said it was a guy on drugs. They could have said it was a small gang matter. They could have made up anything and people would have believed it.

But what did they say? That he was a terrorist already arrested on terrorism charges and doing things as big as planning bomb attacks and setting up training camps.

And as always, people started talking about Islam and conveniently ignored everything else.

They couldn’t have said that

detraveller 30 Nov 19 10:53 


But what did they say? That he was a terrorist already arrested on terrorism charges and doing things as big as planning bomb attacks and setting up training camps.



That's what he was, wtf do you think they should say?

You can almost hear the scurrying of little white mice

Nov 30, 2019 -- 11:13AM, saddo wrote:

detraveller 30 Nov 19 10:53  But what did they say? That he was a terrorist already arrested on terrorism charges and doing things as big as planning bomb attacks and setting up training camps.That's what he was, wtf do you think they should say?

My point was, they could have said anything. But they still went ahead with the statement that actually shows how poorly the legal system and security forces were. They didn't even try to hide it.

But give it 2 days, people will have moved on anyways. Story of the last 4 years...

Has Citizen Khan, Mayor of Londonistan, come along yet to loftily inform us that atrocities like this are "part and parcel" of living in a big city, that "Diversity Is Our Strength" and that the cause of all these problems is (the made-up phenomenon called) 'Islamophobia' ?

Detraveller is confused, again

They couldn’t have said anything

Khan -killer

Its official

London Bridge: Sadiq Khan tells LBC "real challenge" is to reverse Government cuts

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-castle/london-bridge-sadiq-khan-lbc-real-challenge-terror/?fbclid=IwAR1N4iHlKrZGL8XUvW6BfD2n_xLC3QrsG5mWAk2RYeYRZdR5vQjXbQTiLlk

In the last few months the Labour Mayor of Londonistan allowed his special community to protest several times at the Indian High Commission building, with Peace-Loving followers bussed in from all over the UK to vandalise the place and dump their litter as they wish.

This is "Progressivism" you understand. These are Corbyn's people.  This is what passes for Britain today. Any stranger would think they were looking at a scene from Islamabad.

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https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/16/four-arrested-protest-outside-indian-high-commission-turns-violent-10581640/

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/two-arrested-after-indias-high-commission-building-in-london-vandalised-during-protest-against-a4228726.html

Dreadful scenes on the streets of London alun. One may suggest they plss off to Kashmir to demonstrate, nothing to do with us.

Couple of things that every country can do to deter Islamic aggression is withdraw from the right to have a family life and illegal to make someone stateless, then simply start cracking down hard on the known suspects by pressuring their families with deportation. Any political party that supported this would get my vote.

nothing will be done - this will be swept away - despite there's two lying dead in the street - no one will own this

as long as it continues in this manner we will still be sat here in the same position as the demographic shift achieves hegemony

I think you underestimate the public mo. Bovine acceptance of the takeover will be replaced by stern opposition at some point.

stern opposition has got to come because the idiots running this once great country have not got the b@lls to do what needs to be done

"and apart from Hungary I don't know a single government that intends to stop it in the near future."

The Polish are not too keen .

Yet they come to a country overrun with them 

saddo   - as I said, as long as it continues in this manner  etc etc  -  hegemony can be achieved not just by very large numbers but by 20,000 per constituency

I am not sure of the number of large towns and cities which make up a number  but  300 constituencies would probably get them there for legal changes to be made in parliament with out any other tactics to be used to achieve the main aim.

I make that 6 million voters.

so the bloke running away with the kinife according to reports was an on duty London transport policemen,so as 2 members of the public were on the ground trying top bring down the attacker,the bloke paid to bring him down was running away from the scene,HARSH but media were giving him all the credit last night talk of honours etc,if he was on duty all not quite how it seemed

Politicians and the media don't give a **** about this. What is the point of this thread?

yeh the guy running away with the knife did basically nothing

havent seen the news footage etc, but why was he shot if he had been restrained

GRANTCKING, I think his training would have made him take it to preserve evidence in case they didn't waste the scrote.

ellis - he had a fake suicide vest. Plod took no chances and rightly so.

elisjohn 30 Nov 19 17:07 
havent seen the news footage etc, but why was he shot if he had been restrained

Waiting for Facts and Porkie to put a positive slant on this. Talk is cheap. What are our politicians doing to stop this?

public are advised to run away they didn't they took him down,the policemen is trained to take hi9m down he didn't he ran away,if it was a real suicide vest the policemen increased the chances of it been triggered if the public had followed the policemens actions,it was a bit like Rodney trying to claim half of delboys bravery award

Shoot the terrorist dead. Check.

Deport any extended family who might have moved here from abroad.

Close the mosque he attended.


These are the actions that should be taken. 1 out of 3 isn’t good enough.

police,security forces getting away scott free here by media, an event organised on London bridge which invites terrorists on licence ,tagged to the event with no police present and waltzes in with a 12 inch bread knife on a Friday afternoon, talk about hiding in plain site with a flashing red beacon on his head

Focusing on watching people is pointless, we cannot afford to watch them. The focus should and will be on keeping others like him off our streets, however that must be done. I would keep every one of them in jail til they are 80, then they know where they stand.

And in future when Cambridge University graduates go into prisons to help inmates study legal issues .....or maybe that pointless nonsense will be stopped. Very few of these serious criminals never mind terrorists have any hope of a successful / lucrative straight life outside.

I would have thought the same howard, but someone who'd served time for a heinous murder was one of those who tackled him

I think the politicians will not do anything decisive long term on similar incidents in British cities/towns long term eg adopt a shoot-to-kill policy; life sentences for a captured terrorists eg the coward who drove his car killing a police office outside the Houses Of Parliament; automatic deportation of terrorists (if not born here - family or not). These incidents will need to be dealt with in the same manner as killing events perpetrated by The IRA several decades ago.

I hope our politicians have the good sense and responsibility to stop these incidents repeated regularly in British cities in the future otherwise public street demonstrations or protests could follow.

WHAT ARE YOUR POLITICIANS DOING TO STOP THIS?

WAKE UP.

big mo  they are doing plenty  - now pushing ahead on special blasphemy laws so no on can go on line  and upset them anymore

that will do the trick

oh yes and get more of them elected to parliament

that will calm things down

Citizen Khan is playing politics and blaming the present government for ending Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) in 2012; it was done away by the then coalition government in 2012, but Khan was convicted before 2012. Citizen Khan also said one person cannot disrupt London - I think he ought to have said "one person from one community" would have been more appropriate.

I see the media have named the hero guy who took him down and where he works.

How fcuking stupid is that.

khan is a good muslim

Seen khan on sky this morning.
Was doing ok tbf but couldn't help himself and threw jo Cox into the conversation.

I just thought you bastd.

this is what they do  -  yet, cox was murdered by a mentally ill man

But  all islamic attacks on the population are carried out by people with mental difficulties

yet the first example (cox) is produced as a political act!!

you have to get with the narrative

the attack yesterday at borough   was a political act carried out by a political activist who was an avowed islamic terrorist

What has Jo Cox too do with a Muslim terrorist convicted of being in gang to bomb The LSE? I think Citizen Khan is the most inept London Mayor. I wonder if he's ashamed of sharing the same surname as the latest terrorist on London Bridge.

didnt we let loads of those khoonts back in who hAD POPPED OVER to join isis  when they got turned over ?  how many of them planning similar ?

come on people it is chris...  sorry winterval after all.  No pork or gammon this year for boxing day as a measure of respect.

Same here. I'll have duck breasts with sweet potatoes, parsnips, carrots and fennel and a bit of fried red cabbage for colour; desert ice cream and Bailey's Choc Luxe.

elisjohn • November 30, 2019 5:07 PM GMT
havent seen the news footage etc, but why was he shot if he had been restrained

Why not ?

Incidentally , that is a serious answer

ded bodies were still warm last night when Johnson give a 2nd statement 30mins after the 1st pure electioneering because he,d been told about attackers release,on a night both parties had agreed to stop campaigning in London,no surprise as arron banks told brexiteers to keep on campaigning on the day of jo coxes death

khan made it clear he was asked the question by the interviewer 1st,before replying,johnson couldn't wait and wasn't replying to any questions

Need plenty of this in the UK

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/8/17442240/austria-closing-mosques-kicking-out-imams

jucel69 ..if only

Why should this concern so-called 'moderate' Islams ? This action is one step towards safeguarding all Austrian citizens whatever their belief system .

Muslim Terrorists

Muslim grooming peado gangs

get the picture

FILTH

right wing terrorists
royal family peado groups
get the picture
filth

WHANKER

simple people think there,s simple solutions to complicated problems

Is a religion related crime complicated? If so please explain.

FAKE NEWS did it really happen.

^^
Ask the families and friends of the victims?

If it didnt ...the writer must of had some blinding Acid to have included a TUSK as a weapon [:l

1st time poster 02 Dec 19 18:42 
right wing terrorists
royal family peado groups
get the picture
filth



Two right wing murders in recent years from (allegedly) 95% of the population, dozens of murders from the other (allegedly) 5%. Hundreds of paedos from the 5% also. Hardly comparative really.

Apparently their are 74 of these morons walking the streets today. ..REALLY....... is it me?

And a few hundred coming back who've done some killing for Isis

There's a few video's going around showing him still alive after they shot him at point blank range. You could see him raising his arm and moving.

Crazy init.. can I say that?... the world has gone mad

The scumbag deserved to die, and I hope he rots in hell whether it's Islamic or other faiths. He does not deserve or warrant a re-incarnation as his new beginning would not be any better than the one he was shot dead; a total waste of space and resource.