Would it be anti-semitic

I'm sure they will be comforted by your'e undying support.

I believe the case against Labour being anti-Semetic, is strong enough to reflect on anybody who supports Labour.

And I'm afraid there is little Labour can do about the perception. It can only get stronger.

any jew putting his future in the hands of a hard right tory party led by a racist,homoiphobic,mysoginist ,bullyboy bigot ,deserves anything that may come their way, should go to the synagogue and thank their lucky stars they wernt 2 70 old labour acticists beat up in the name of the brave tory party, like everyone else after the election and Brexit ,who are the brexiteers coming for next it wont be me and if its the jews you,ll have to lump it,hard right tory divide and rule number one from the nasty party playbook, on the Brightside pritti might do a bit of freelancing and arrange to tunnel you back into Israel, every cloud

whoever knew so many old white male bigots cared about racism?

My problem is with Israel...a country that should never have been created.



It's generally agreed that it is not anti-semitic to criticise Israel and the policies of its government. However, some might say it is anti-semitic to say that the country should never have been created.

Jews and Arabs were living in Palestine in 1948 - the Palestinians refused to accept the territory they were offered.

its safe to presume that if the torys had 550,000 members they,d have more islamaphobic problems,more anti semetic posts on social media

You have to take extra care these days.

I enjoy dressing as an old Jewish man and singing... I'm reviewing the situation.

I enjoy dressing as an old Jewish man and singing...


Wish you had said earlier. I saw Fiddler on the roof quite recently down by the Embankment!

It was British territory. There was no nation of Palestine. The UN agreed to divide the territory.  As said, the Arabs refused to accept the proposal.

In some ways, you could draw a parallel with the creation of Pakistan.

It was NOT British Territory.

Palestine was occupied by the Turkish Ottoman Empire until their defeat in WW1.

Britian having liberated Palestine, should have left it to be run by the people who lived there

basically Palestine Arabs, with a sprinkling of Christians and Jews, less than 1%

In fact the Palestinians were actually better off under the Ottoman Turks, at least they were Muslim.

Uble - opinion is being generous - you're making some of this up as you go along!

After WW1, Palestine was approximately 14% Jewish, 10% Christian and 76% Muslim.

If you go back long enough in history, everyone was an invader or occupier. You can't just conveniently pick a point in history and say it belonged to the British. I'm pretty sure if you go back long enough even Britain didn't belong to the British.

If you use that kind of logic, then Hitler's annexation of Austria was a noble act wasn't it? Pity the British weren't decent enough to support him in the noble cause. I mean you could at least have given it back to Germany after the war, even if you had differences with the man

No I am not agree with nick

I have seen 1% somewhere.

Anyway 14% in less than 76%.

I have no trouble with Jews being in Palestine.

But we British had no right to give half of Palestine to the Jews.

Once we British had liberated Palestine from the Ottoman Turks in WW1 we should have given it back to the people

who lived there to run. Palestinian Arabs, Jews or Christians, etc?

This was the worst thing the British Empire ever did.

with repercussions echoing down to today.

before I forget

only my own opinion of course

Will the Ottoman Empire have another go or have they got their feet up?  crisp

A great Empire in their time. Occupied South East Europe once. They were halted at the gates of Vienna

by the Holy Roman Empire.

I do not think modern day Turkey will reach those heights again.

But they are industrious people I quite like them

Also occupied the Southern part of Russia for a long time.

We fought on the side of the Turks in the Crimean War, in defence of Sevastopol.

On rode the 600!!!

But we British had no right to give half of Palestine to the Jews.


We didn't. The UN did.



I have seen 1% somewhere.


Where did you read that?  Have you been seeking out at websites that confirm your own views?

Spain was once ruled by the Muslims. Then someone else came along, suppressed them, burnt the arabic literature and so on. When eventually Muslims take control of Spain again, can we conveniently say it belonged to them, someone just took over their territory for a few hundred years and now they've taken it back?

The Muslims conquered Spain they were eventually driven out in 1492...a while ago now.

The Jews left what was then Judea circa 300 AD. A 1,700 year gap, was too long a period for them to return.

The results has been appalling.

I understand the Jews desire for their own country.

the UN just went along with it

But we British had no right to give half of Palestine to the Jews.


I don't think that's correct, ebul.

The bulk of the land under British jurisdiction (British Mandate for Palestine) was to the East of the Jordan and that became what we now know as the state of Jordan. The bulk of the land therefore went to the Arabs.