The Sharia Law Block Vote "could swing 31 marginal seats"

Yes I have been able to guess that much but don't really have a clue about your politicians.

So Labor hasn't been in power since 2010. The Tories have been in power for the last 9 years. We have all seen how the Tories have basically ignored economic migrants and let them come in whichever route they wanted to. But now that the voting balance is slowly shifting, how come labor get the blame? Just because they are the beneficiaries of the imports carried out by the tories?

How come no one says I'm not going to vote tory because look how they imported so many labor voters!

and I know its Labour but fk spelling.

Corbyns Labour Party is the party of Islam, we must make sure that the Labour Party never get into power again
It is a danger to everyone in this country

Indeed.

No other major political party leader standing on the UK mainland for over 100 years, has enjoyed such a close association with terrorists.

Such a thing was unimaginable, even 10 years ago.

But but tory allows saudia to fund mosques in UK and allows so many migrants to flow in. Plus a bonus arms deal with them. How come tory isn't the party of Islam?

Such a thing was unimaginable, even 10 years ago.
You mean things were way better during Labour government?

Am I stupid or you people have just made your mind that no matter how the tories help in Islamization of britain, labour gets the blame?

What exactly has labour done? I know Corbyn has had some photo shoots with terrorists but what else?

or maybe laid some flowers on their graves or something?

All the main parties are cucked when it comes to Islam, it just seems a matter of to what degree.

Cameron and May did try to get the numbers down to around 100k but met overwhelming resistance internally from various Government Departments and outside vested big business interests.

Shut down all the mosques and you will see numbers dwindle

As we all know, HAMAS has millions of sympathisers living and voting in the UK.

No doubt whatsoever which party will be getting their vote in this election. They endorsed their favourite Useful Idiot just a few months ago.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hamas-thanks-jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-message-rally-pro-palestinian-a8917691.html

Ban beards

interesting that mr millani's earlier messages seem to have disappeared from the independent's site
you will note other stuff has disappeared from google
who else has been investing in the Independent?

Will there be an enquiry it this sort of activity or do we just have them for supposedly Russian interference only?

One/two  more Generations , there will only be one Result in Elections ...

Voting will take place @ The  Holy Places of Peace and Learning ...

“British politics is quite a simple arrangement. Tories give money to the rich, Labour give money to the poor. The rest do fck all.”


The above statement by an earlier poster is complete bollocks of course. The essential difference between the parties of today is that Tories want to lift people up, Labour want to push people down. Anyone who thinks that the current shambles of a Labour Party is on the side of the working man is totally deluded.

If you work, if you have a family, vote Tory.

The above statement is indeed complete bollox. if you think that years of increased borrowing and at the same time severe austerity and low wages, with ailing NHS, brutal transport systems and the worst homeless problem since records began, well yes work your tits off for the good of the one nation me and mine crooked Tory elite party and feel the lift, feel it, go right ahead and vote for the crisis that awaits you.

millions of voters in this election wont even have been alive last time a tory give anyone a leg up to anywhere

getting lots more people over the last 15 years was a super idea

lots more workers to be exploited at low wages

wonderful idea

meanwhile an  idea is eating away at the inside of the country, one which is diametrically opposed to our accepted way of life

The programe is in full Swing mate , Birth rates Soaring

Women fought hard for their rights - one died for it - would you like to see us go into reverse on that.  It is what some believe is the ONLY way.

detraveller 18 Nov 19 20:34 
Yes I have been able to guess that much but don't really have a clue about your politicians.

So Labor hasn't been in power since 2010. The Tories have been in power for the last 9 years. We have all seen how the Tories have basically ignored economic migrants and let them come in whichever route they wanted to. But now that the voting balance is slowly shifting, how come labor get the blame? Just because they are the beneficiaries of the imports carried out by the tories?
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Once Labour opened the doors they created a virtue signalling society (like Germany and Sweden did) where anyone who questioned immigration was labelled a racist and silenced. This has gone on -helped by the Guardian types at the BBC- until recently.

The time for talk is here.

Wikipedia tells me that the British Pakistani immigration to the UK really got started strong in the 50s, which were entirely governed by The Conservative and Unionist Party. Is that incorrect?

No you hit the nail on the head there edy , but for some especially the tory fanboys they blind to all this of course

Once Labour opened the doors they created a virtue signalling society
When was this door opened?

May 1st 2004. EU enlargement, migration restrictions

'United Kingdom: Welfare restrictions only, need to register though. This decision was controversial: politicians later admitted that they had only decided against barring freedom of movement under the assumption that all of the other EU countries would also impose no restrictions on freedom of movement: in fact only Ireland and Sweden followed suit.[9][10] This decision led to a rise of anti-migrant sentiment, and is credited with inspiring Brexit.'



I think wiki have it about right. Once you couldn't talk about immigration, anyone breaking in knew they would get away with it. And still they come.

Don'r forget New Labour's catastrophic decision (straight after the 1997 election win) to open the doors to mass immigration.

We know this because Chief Architect Peter Mandelson infamously told us so.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324112/Lord-Mandelson-Immigrants-We-sent-search-parties-hard-Britons-work.html

I see. So let's say Labour paid the price for these stupid decisions and conceded to Tories in 2010 and haven't been in govt since. These decisions you refer to, have been overturned by the Tories in the last 9 years? Speaking from the news experience of last 4 years I would say it has only worsened regarding freedom of speech and migrants/immigration. So if a person doesn't vote labour because of these reasons, surely he can't then vote the tories either because they've done the exact same thing, they just weren't the first ones, right?

Latest figures from the Migration observatory at oxford have the fiscal cost of non eu migration at -15 billion a year, the labour force survey has it higher at a minimum of -17 billion a year, yet the average Jezza clown remains convinced of its fiscal benefit.

Let's also never forget that the Mass Immigration (unrequested by the British public) was also, purely and simply, an act of spite by New Labour. An act to be carried out regardless of the incalculable damage it could do to the country.

The game was infamously given away by a former aide to Tony Blair and speechwriter. He unforgettably made it clear that New Labour wished to "change the UK radically" and (disgracefully) "rub the Right's nose in Diversity".

None of this done in the interest of the UK.

You can expect more of this under any Corbyn/Momentum government.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8326501.stm

Interview with Lord Green of Migration watch ... Well worth a watch

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnwpuxkQWbE&t

Nov 20, 2019 -- 1:54PM, lux wrote:

Interview with Lord Green of Migration watch ... Well worth a watchwww.youtube.com/watch?v=XnwpuxkQWbE&t

All you need to know there, Green Party, Libs, Labour spout on about climate change but support open borders, 1 MILLION IMMIGRANTS EVERY 3 YEARS ALREADY IN THIS SMALL CROWDED COUNTRY! but carry on...nothing to see here...

The EU thought it was a good idea to let in 1 million unchecked muslims in a few months!

LIB DEMS PROMISE 10,000 MORE REFUGEES EVERY YEAR - WHAT A VOTE WINNER

The EU thought it was a good idea to let in 1 million unchecked muslims in a few months!

Germany did so unilaterally without even bothering to ask other EU individual countries what they thought of this insane decision. Even though those nations would have to face up to the Freedom of Movement of that million thereafter.

What a partnership of member nations eh?

I have to laugh at the usual defenders of the faith on here - they are so predictable.  One wonders what will happen to them as the demographic shift lumbers on.

half a million romanians which we were told would not be coming but they did  old barrage was spot on when he warned us

Was it not the ex Libyan leader (now deceased) who mentioned population growth to achieve an objective.

The Champagne socialist Lucas frantically digging herself into an ever deeper environmentally unfriendly trench...


https://youtu.be/rDL_uPhzxRE?t=2122

I still don't get why you guys are willing to give tories a free pass when they've been carrying on doing exactly the same stuff you're accusing labour of.

Lib Dems promising more teachers for schools etc, no mention of immigration and the million extra every 2 years, 10s of millions over 20 years + only the THICKEST would vote Lib,Lab Greens...just totally ignore the real problem, TOO MANY PEOPLE!

lux - thanks.

Dale makes the obvious point that mass migration is no friend to the environment. Lucas just can't or won't see the link!!

This point doesn't just apply to the Greens but all the parties.

Absolutely Inj, whatever your political persuasion you just cannot in any way shape or form credibly be considered or badge yourself as "Green" if you are advocating freedom of movement. Completely negates and nullifies your entire raison d'être. Abject incoherence.

So you're voting Tory because their manifesto says they'll "control" immigration this time.

Don't know if you guys would prioritise actually checking a politician's record over promises they might make but you might want to check out their last 3 manifestos and how their record on immigration stood up against what they promised.

And then maybe think how much you should trust the latest one.

I'll be holding my nose and voting Spiv because I see them as the least worst option. I'd be amazed if they were able to reduce immigration by any meaningful degree.

Sad to say, but Europe looks irretrievably goosed.

alun2005, you need to sit down and have a wee cup of tea.

porky is just a long line of apologists

you wander what on earth he would support and what we would end up with

I'm voting Tory because I want Brexit to escape the clutches of The EU - the other Parties do not interest me; "chicken" Corbyn annoys me with his waffling.

I also trust the Tories more on Economy than "chicken" Corbyn and his motley shadow front bench; I dislike Labour's giveaway election pledges more than the Tories too - Labour's resembles fantasy and irrelevance eg broadband - how necessary is it? It's not tv licence or water, electricity or council tax.

I'm voting Tory because I want Brexit to escape the clutches of The EU - the other Parties do not interest me

With the risk of sounding ignorant about British politics again, you're voting for the party that has been milking Brexit for the last 3 years and is out to get your vote precisely because they couldn't achieve what you are voting them for.

Your own chancellor has ruined a whole continent in no time, everything that has happened here in the last 3 years is a result of her error.

That's condescending coming from you 'detraveller'.

I just want Brexit, but for the MPs playing games ie not fulfilling the wish of the majority of the electorate in the 2016 EU Referendum in the corridors of power Brexit would not be the no 1 thing on the electorate mind in the coming election. And, to blame it solely on the Tories shows a distinct lack of understanding of numbers in The House Of Commons and 2017 Election Results.

However, I do hope you understand the majority of MPs (including The Speaker) are  'Remainers' (at least) otherwise there is little point of going any further with this discussion.

The thick brainless coont must read the sun , the mail and the torygraph every day

Yer Merkel ruined the continent. But how would you react if I told you I'm voting Merkel again? Because when you tell me you're voting Tory, all I see is you voting for the same party that has been in power for 9 years, didn't fulfill the public's Brexit wishes and continues to let anyone come into the country. You see what I mean?

Yes I accept I don't have a clue about the distribution of reps in the Houses. But it does look strange from the outside. Especially when Corbyn gets so much crap for free money lovers when its the tories letting them all in.

Every government had erred with illegal immigration - they never had the stomach to deal with it for fear of upsetting their supporters, within and outside the Parties; The UK hand is tied by The EU where immigration is concerned with nationals from there. Also, immigration level will never come down - net migration might (eventually).

Imp, can you explain this point further please.

EU does not stop UK from carrying out border checks. It doesn't force you to let in people from South Asia for instance. The Tories continue to let everyone in when EU asked only to let EU folks in. Surely that has nothing to do with the MPs being remainers or leavers or their numbers in the House?

It also doesn't force the UK to never implement various available measures regarding EU immigration. Something the Tories mysteriously haven't implemented despite various pledges to limit immigration.

...and as the UK got less attractive for EU immigrants after Brexit, non-EU immigration mysteriously picked up despite the pledges.

i.e Tories want a certain level of immigration, they know the UK needs a certain level of immigration...but they've been taking everyone for fools by not being frank to you about it.

Just because things have been so badly mismanaged in the past doesn’t mean we have to continue on those same disasterous lines
Stopping freedom of movement is an essential and important start

There is not a single country in the modern world that needs immigration

Maybe so, but the Tories have promised to cut immigration for the last three elections and actually did the opposite.

They've been in full control of non-EU immigration in all that time and have overseen it rise every year.

They've had rules available to manage EU immigration and kick out anyone who wasn't contributing and have simply chosen to not apply them.

And since EU nationals have been leaving they've been running employment schemes for further Eastern European countries and elsewhere to add numbers from further afield.


Just don't be surprised if - once again - you vote for them in the hope they reduce immigration but you find that you're being lied to.

In a rapidly changing world were automation and robotics are the future its not more people we need its less.

Also Britain has relied on imported food but we now are heavily dependent on vast amounts of this imported food, none of the political parties have said they intend to implement a system that reduces or better still makes us self sufficient in the production of food should we require it.

Not only is the world population growing at unsustainable rate, but should some worldwide disaster man made or otherwise will leave the UK seriously exposed to both the price and the availability of the food we currently import.

In other words we have no contingency plan and we have politicians who have no clue.
For the sake of a couple of billion quid every city in the UK could self sufficient in both food and gas and electric.

detraveller, Brexit was scheduled for March 2019. That in itself would have taken any government nearly 3 years to deliver. The subsequent delay is pretty much down to Theresa May failed gamble when she called an election for June 2017 in the hope she would win more seats to secure Brexit and actually losing seats. The problem was and still is that the majority of the house of commons MP's are remainers and have time and time again blocked the referendum result. The reason I state this is that if the tories gain an overall majority at this election, Brexit will go ahead as all candidates standing for them are as far as I know in favour of Brexit and the deal Boris has.

meanwhile year by year the influence grows

20,000/300

now there are serious articles about it  at last

but you read it here first

once they tighten up on the 'blasphemy' laws there will be no debate

Who were the last people to be up on a blasphemy charge was it the boys from OZ magazine?

Charlie Hebdo.

Hilarious that someone would waste their time picking 31 seats that have small majorities, with some muslim folks as constituents, say they could decide the election, then get all the thick racist mugs on here to lap it up.

Yes, why did the Muslim Council of Britain compile this list of 31 winnable marginals where Muslim voters could have a "high impact", and those findings get reported in The Guardian newspaper?

(See article linked in opening post, copied again below to make it easier for the not very bright).

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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/muslim-voters-could-swing-31-093533652.html

In a shock report out today it is claimed that white people could influence the results of up to 650 constituencies at the general election.

the only defence at a takeover of constituencies is to cast those who are critical as being of a thick  racist persuasion. I do wonder that in itself is both racist and thick in content.  Not much of an intelligent response is it.  The supporters of mass immigration and sucking up to the eu  like punter would though.  They have no other argument.
Just play the cards instead.  Clearly punter is a racist.  I see he starts to mention white.   Now why would he do that. Who brought colour of skin into the discussion?   Only him? 

Punter is on the side of the Muslim council - did you know what it was called before it changed its name.  It will give you a clue what they are about.

Yes, why did the Muslim Council of Britain compile this list of 31 winnable marginals where Muslim voters could...
Because its the muslim council. It makes sense for them to have a list of constituencies where they can get their own people in power.
What was their previous name?

vision statement: "empowering the Muslim community towards achieving a just, cohesive and successful British society"

sounds fair to me. Corbyn for PM.

General Election 2019: Muslim voters on issues that matter to them
Muslims could swing the vote in 11 seats in Greater London on 12 December, according to research by the Muslim Council of Britain.
But what issues matter to them and could this influence who they vote for in the General Election?
We joined a guided tour of London, which looks at how Islam has influenced culture in the capital, and spoke with Muslim voters on the tour about the issues that mattered most to them...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-50518346/general-election-2019-muslim-voters-on-issues-that-matter-to-them

How Islam has influenced culture in many Towns across the UK  , A must series for the BBC one would think .

Shirley EPISODE 1  , Telford ?

Good video, woman from abroad complaining -  through a slit in her face veil - about feeling alienated 

Bloke in the red Fez  ALI BONGO ??

Nov 22, 2019 -- 2:23PM, moisok wrote:

the only defence at a takeover of constituencies is to cast those who are critical as being of a thick  racist persuasion. I do wonder that in itself is both racist and thick in content.  Not much of an intelligent response is it.  The supporters of mass immigration and sucking up to the eu  like punter would though.  They have no other argument.Just play the cards instead.  Clearly punter is a racist.  I see he starts to mention white.   Now why would he do that. Who brought colour of skin into the discussion?   Only him?  Punter is on the side of the Muslim council - did you know what it was called before it changed its name.  It will give you a clue what they are about.

no ur the racist

I never brought skin colour into it - he did.  just trying to help

Muslims and by extension Islam = Inimical to a free society

White people = conducive to a free society


additionally...


If you can convert to it or apostatize out of it then, somewhat bizarrely, it's probably not a race.

It is absolutely not a 'race'.

This is The UK. And, if a person chooses (not invited) to come to The UK then that person must at least integrate, speak the language and accept some of the traditions eg x'mas, Easter, etc; living in clusters; communicating in their own language/dialect at work eg major supermarkets, etc; not respecting the law of the country and the people (vulnerable young white females) do not constitute being a good citizen or community.

The UK have given these immigrants a new chance of improving their life, health and security. As such, at least be grateful, and not just criticise otherwise, enact the alternative - the door is always open.

Try moving to Spain, you have no idea how many clusters of immigrants shop in supermarkets all speaking in their own language.

Ex pats tend not to pose a cogent existential threat to free society, I think you'll find.

Most ex pats will also have there own money and benefit the Spanish economy not drag it down also I don't think Spanish jails have a disproportionate amount of Brits

Not many Brits in Spanish social housing.

punter supports people who want the place flooded with visitors who want to stay

He supports those people just like the govt, the media, the police, the politicians, the EU. The public still haven't moved past the 'they don't integrate' phase. When was the last time the Muslims integrated in a foreign country and provided value to the society?

The only success so far has been the police officials jailed for ignoring grooming activities despite having knowledge of it and the border forces suspended for ignoring border controls. The rest is just business as usual and there's no reason to expect things to improve.

politicspunter 22 Nov 19 22:43 
Try moving to Spain, you have no idea how many clusters of immigrants shop in supermarkets all speaking in their own language.



There are less 250,000  British in the whole of Spain. There are around 120,000 Pakistanis in Bradford alone. Clusters?

greta must me in a spin with the thought of millions more coming into landan and increasing our carbon footprint  hahahah

must be in

I think the Muslims are very green. The women don't drive or work. The more of them better....

Muslim women may not, their men make up for them; irritatingly arrogant with massive double-standard shoulders.

How does immigration affect carbon footprint? People are still moving on the same planet aren't they?

Nov 23, 2019 -- 2:59PM, saddo wrote:

politicspunter 22 Nov 19 22:43  Try moving to Spain, you have no idea how many clusters of immigrants shop in supermarkets all speaking in their own language.There are less 250,000  British in the whole of Spain. There are around 120,000 Pakistanis in Bradford alone. Clusters?

Exactly more leftist pants

but all those vegans and vegetarians ferting all over the plaice

If folk are moving from 3rd world simple economies to industrialised ones, their carbon footprint increases. EU migrants are hopping back and forth on Easy Jet. Nothing's said!

UK towns and cities are hotting up because the infrastructure increases to accomodate migration. Heat disperses less in built up areas.

NOT ONE scientist/celebrity SJW is calling for a pause in migration.

The increasing affluent society in China increases carbon footprint and CO2 gases produced by the animals the Chinese consumed. Similarly, those in developing countries whilst the consumption of red meat in The UK is decreasing despite an increase in population.

Try telling the Chinese they are burning up the planet Earth so soon achieving prosperity after years of poverty-stricken and destitution.

""but all those vegans and vegetarians ferting all over the plaice""

You actually have a point mo , They must be right Gassy Basterds

I think I saw one being chased down the street by our local vigilante group.

Or maybe it was a tory being pursued by mummysmentum gang members

Well, well, well, who could have thought or predicted this? 

A Peace-Loving, Block Voting Campaign group for Labour has been reported to the Electoral Commission by the 'Campaign For Ballot Integrity', itself chaired by a former Labour MP.

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https://order-order.com/2019/12/04/mpacs-campaigning-labour-reported-electoral-commission/

Don't rule out Labour doing well in Culturally-Enriched Marginals.