The NHS is dying

Millions more customers over the last decade, paid nowt before arriving and if low paid, will be paying nowt now. Then there are those who fly in for treatment and bugger off home. We must be the only 'free to anybody' health service in the world, what could possibly go wrong with that.

Corbyn and his stooges will completely kill the NHS if he comes to power.

Remember - Labour's policy for only 32 hours to be worked per week by NHS staff. 

Those staff (and the taxpayer) will be supporting a further flood of immigrants who will have paid nothing to get their free treatment.

Remember - Labour's most recent Conference came up with the following Immigration policies :

- Oppose the current immigration legislation and any curbing of rights
- Campaign for free movement, equality and rights for migrants
- Reject any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets
- Close all detention centres
- Ensure unconditional right to family reunion
- Maintain and extend free movement rights
- End “no recourse to public funds” policies
- Scrap all Hostile Environment measures… and restrictions on migrants’ NHS access
- Extend equal rights to vote to all UK residents regardless of nationality

Not a pretty picture.

No business could afford to let anyone into their shops to take whatever they need at any time. They even make checks to see if you are entitled to use food banks.

Much though I agree with a lot this guy says, I think a graph showing NHS spending per person in the UK over time e.g. back to the 70's would be interesting.
The only figures I have found are only for the last 10 years.

This would ignore the age and immigrant factor, but should give a benchmark of the cost.

Much of the problems in the NHS is due to the cost of newly invented drugs and procedures, health care cost inflation, increasing acceptance of mental health conditions,
staffing issues as a result of overwork, GP surgeries limiting their services and our unstinting efforts to keep even the oldest, most frail or dependent alive for as long as we possible can.

It is simplistic to ignore the supply based problems.

But, on the demand side, it would be interesting to see a chart of NHS spending with measures of obesity, drug and alcohol abuse.

They've all got good jobs ion the NHS with gold plated pensions.
Early retirement must cost the country a bomb.

The NHS has become a vehicle for people whose main concern is their careers.
And the quality of many of NHS employees these days is a major concern.

I didn't look at the link Jack. It is obvious that those who do pay in will have to pay more, it's a tough sell if those people see it being given away so readily. If someone has done a study on how healthy the NHS would be if we hadn't given a huge amount to PLCs - 48 million in cash has been banked from building and selling our hospital by Balfour Beatty - I would read that.

The UK pension deficit is mind boggling. It is a staggering £5 trillion. The State Pension accounts for £4tr but £1tr relates to Public Sector workplace pensions.

How are we going to pay for this and the other ticking time bombs?

They'll hammer those with private pensions to pay for public sector pensions.

It's already happening in care for the elderly. Self funded people in care homes, pay more than council residents for being looked after the same. That's if they can get in because the council grab all the places.
And we all remember Brown's raid on private pensions. And other raids since.

How much the NHS pays for EVERYTHING should be made public.  You hear stories that once a supplier learns the NHS wants to buy from them, they increase the price.  Make the accounts fully transparent and public and name and shame those who seek to rip the NHS off.  I'd wager a lot of money is lost through paying over the odds.

Charge foreigners who use our service.

Get back to treating illnesses and injuries only.  Not being able to have children is not an illness.

I put in a F of I request about a private contractor working for local hospitals in my area. I wanted to see the details of the contract including of course cost.

All private contractors working for the public sector are exempt for F of I requests.

We're talking hundreds of millions of pounds spent (by the taxpayer) on these companies and NOONE is allowed to see the details.

A few people make a lot of money.

Great link lux- thanks. Mindblowing

Earlier this year the BBC put out a series called "FRAUD SQUAD NHS", sadly no longer available on iPlayer, but maybe at another online portal.

The sums of money they stated defrauded from the NHS each year are truly staggering. The fraud schemes themselves were in many cases so transparently obvious that Stevie W could see through them, yet seemingly the NHS managers were oblivious to them. You won't be surprised to know that many of the fraudsters exposed were (a) foreigners and (b) NOT white people.

I'm guessing that maybe for reasons of "not wanting to look WAAAAAYYYYCIST" that the villains were allowed to fill their boots. It would have probably looked ungentlemanly or "colonial" to have queried such obvious scams, particularly in an environment where Compulsory Diversity rules.

Scare stories come out of the NHS every autumn,often timed to blackmail politicians into competing to raise budgets for more votes. Meanwhile plenty of doctors work only three days a week because of Osbornes stupid tax fix for salaries between £100k -£125k which most say makes it not worth working a full week.

NHS England, the UK’s largest employer has agreed 1,072 NDAs for departures of staff that were not compulsory redundancies at a cost of £49.6m since 2014. NHS Scotland has a much smaller workforce but nevertheless signed a comparatively low 71 NDAs at a cost of £1.1m.

https://members.tortoisemedia.com/2019/05/11/ndas-part-2/content.html?sig=047LZlXFDatYI2_nw0KdA4_LbWU6lUoP6CCPForNTy8

Don't worry about it Boris' £350 million a week that we will save by being out of the EU will pay for that.