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casemoney
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The spectator Brendan O'niell   Says it as it is ...

Who is allowed to be part of the #MeToo movement? I ask because on Friday five men were found guilty of horrific sexual crimes against eight girls and yet the case hasn’t trended on Twitter. There have been no hashtags. The girls’ suffering hasn’t been widely talked about. There have been very few declarations of solidarity from feminists. There’s pretty much been silence.

It isn’t hard to see why. The problem for the mostly middle-class, well-connected feminists who make up the #MeToo movement is that this case involved both the wrong kind of victim and the wrong kind of perpetrator.

The victims were working-class girls, under the age of 16, some of them quite troubled — a far cry from the actresses, businesswomen and lobby journalists whose experiences of harassment have dominated the #MeToo narrative so far.

And the perpetrators were Muslim men. They were Muslim men who the judge described as ‘cunning and determined’ sexual predators. And surely no one wants to risk stirring up Islamophobic sentiment by drawing attention to a Muslim gang engaged in incredibly abusive behaviour?

So let’s brush it aside. Let’s hope it fades away. We can’t have inconvenient working-class victims of a Muslim grooming gang disturbing the #MeToo narrative or the multicultural script.

This is the story of the latest convictions secured in Operation Stovewood, the huge investigation into the sexual exploitation and abuse of girls and young women in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013.

The five men found guilty on Friday had committed various horrendous crimes: rape, indecent assault, and child abduction. They had plied the girls with drink and drugs and used them as ‘sexual objects’, in the words of Judge Michael Slater who oversaw the case at Sheffield Crown Court. The girls had been horribly dehumanised. ‘They took my childhood away’, one of the victims said.

Strikingly, the judge didn’t only condemn the men – he also criticised the authorities in Rotherham. He said they had at best been ‘totally ineffectual’ and at worst ‘wholly indifferent’ to the abuse of girls by Muslim gangs. He said he was ‘quite satisfied’ that the ‘relevant authorities’ in Rotherham knew girls were being targeted for sexual exploitation. And their failure to do anything about it is a ‘lamentable state of affairs’.

This ought to be a huge talking point. There have been similar scandals in other parts of the country, in Telford, Rochdale, Oxfordshire and elsewhere. In each case gangs of men from largely Muslim backgrounds abused and exploited young women from mostly white working-class backgrounds. And often there is evidence that the authorities were conscious of what was happening but took little action against it. They were worried about being seen to demonise Muslims and possibly contributing to what they view as a culture of Islamophobia.

Boiled down, this really means that they considered it more important to protect Muslims from criticism than to protect working-class girls from sexual abuse. So concerned were some officials with preserving the ideology of multiculturalism, with batting aside any difficult discussion about a growing sense of separatism and even hostility between certain communities in the UK, that they did not take strong action against the widespread exploitation of young women.

Even now, discussion about Muslim grooming gangs is shushed. Anyone who raises it will be branded an Islamophobe, a racist and maybe even a fascist. Look what happened to the Labour MP for Rotherham, Sarah Champion, when she wrote about the problem of largely Pakistani gangs abusing white girls. She was demonised by Corbynistas. She was forced out of Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet. The message was clear: talk about this issue and you will be punished.

This is such a censorious and dim-witted approach to a very serious problem. First, it neglects the girls who suffered, turning them essentially into second-class victims whose abuse is an embarrassment, something best forgotten.

And secondly, it plays into the hands of hard-right elements who politicise the issue of Muslim grooming gangs. It actually empowers these troublesome political groups who will say: ‘Only we are brave enough to talk about this problem.’ And of course they talk about it for very cynical reasons — in order to promote a view of all Muslim men as predatory, and all Muslims as a problem.

What strange times we live in. A politician placing his hand on a middle-class journalist’s knee can dominate the news for weeks, while a gang of predatory men abducting and raping working-class girls gets a tiny write-up on page ten of your newspaper. This says something so disturbing to the victims in Rotherham and elsewhere: ‘You don’t matter. Preventing difficult discussion about cultural tensions in 21st-century Britain is far more important than your experiences of abuse.’
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Report saddo • November 9, 2019 9:52 PM GMT
The last line sums it up perfectly.
Report casemoney • November 9, 2019 10:00 PM GMT
Sad
Report peckerdunne • November 9, 2019 10:01 PM GMT
The wheels on the bus!
Report casemoney • November 9, 2019 10:26 PM GMT
Not many Bus Drivers involved peck , Uber and Other minicabs Would be on the List Grin
Report moisok • November 9, 2019 10:46 PM GMT
that is being taxiist money!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report detraveller • November 9, 2019 10:48 PM GMT
MeToo was originally meant as a voice against sexual assault and harassment. It is only recently that it became famous when some celebrities made it go viral and destroyed the concept. Similarly, free the nipple campaign, as stupid as it was, went viral because a few celebrities hijacked an idea. People are dumb, they do what the celebrities make them think is cool. How many celebrities would risk their reputation to raise their voice for these women knowing they will have to face the wrath of the British govt for exposing this? None.

Its not that these women are worthless. Its just that raising your voice for them isn't worth the risk for now. Its just not cool.

What's cool is talking about the equal size of public toilets for both men and women even though we know women spend 3 times more time in there and have more needs than men, take more space(have to sit) and have the menstrual stuff to deal with too. Any hashtag suggestions?
Report casemoney • November 9, 2019 10:55 PM GMT
Quite Right MO , I retract the Statement, but will Add Warboys was included Plain
Report moisok • November 9, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
I will be watching you closelyDevil
Report casemoney • November 10, 2019 3:29 PM GMT
The above should be Immediately attended by Parliament when it re opens , with a full debate then an inquiry   ....
Report moisok • November 10, 2019 3:59 PM GMT
lessons WILL be learned  ho ho ho
Report Shanelee1966 • November 10, 2019 5:26 PM GMT
The social workers and police highlighted this abuse many years ago, they were silenced and left
in fear if they were to continue raising concerns etc. Those guilty of covering it all up around the country got away scot free yet again.
Report Reynard • November 10, 2019 6:00 PM GMT
That's because it's their laws NOT ours . That's how the state police operate Sad
Report moisok • November 10, 2019 6:18 PM GMT
Sherry ear
Report casemoney • November 10, 2019 6:25 PM GMT
JD ear
Report detraveller • November 10, 2019 10:06 PM GMT

Nov 10, 2019 -- 3:29PM, casemoney wrote:


The above should be Immediately attended by Parliament when it re opens , with a full debate then an inquiry

Report detraveller • November 10, 2019 10:07 PM GMT
Isn't there a website for uk parliament where you can vote for something to be discussed in house? surely you can gather the min votes required for something as serious as this?
Report Injera • November 11, 2019 8:52 AM GMT
Nottingham's Turn.

Five men have appeared in court to face 36 charges of child grooming.

Hamza Shazad, 25, Ansar Ahmed, 29, Mohammed Saeed Ahmed, 20, Waqar Akhtar, 26 and Waqas Akhtar, 24, were granted conditional bail at Nottingham Magistrates' Court.

The court heard the charges related to three girls, two aged under 16 and one aged under 18.

The men were told the next hearing will take place at Nottingham Crown Court on 5 December.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-50333707
Report saddo • November 11, 2019 9:50 AM GMT
Good that they are telling people where they live.
Report casemoney • November 11, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
With the Ages you would imagine these are more recent Crimes ,As I have said before Astounding what has been going on Nationwide , The most shocking part will be those Nicked are probably he Tip of iceberg
Report Injera • November 12, 2019 4:47 PM GMT
More vibrancy. #Metoo will be all over this..

A Primark security guard is facing jail for forcing teenage girls to perform sexual acts in return for not reporting their shoplifting.

Zia Uddin, 27, raped one 15-year-old girl and pressured three others into sex acts after he caught them stealing from the clothing chain’s Kingston branch.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/kingston-primark-guard-forced-child-sh...
Report Crisp77 • November 12, 2019 5:35 PM GMT
I don't think Primark will survive the backlash on this one Plain
Report casemoney • November 12, 2019 5:39 PM GMT
The Old Security Guard route , a new avenue has opened ..
Report detraveller • November 12, 2019 8:02 PM GMT
Meanwhile British TV: "Clapping should be banned to make appreciation more inclusive of people with phobia of loud noises"
Report saddo • November 12, 2019 9:34 PM GMT
Yes, we must protect people with phobias, unless it's a you know who phobia in which case they are vilified.







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Report Ibrahima Sonko • February 2, 2020 11:02 AM GMT
Turns out Amber Heard was the aggressor.

#MeTooBollox
Report Crisp77 • February 2, 2020 12:39 PM GMT
Turns out Primark still making record profits
Report Injera • February 2, 2020 2:58 PM GMT
POLICE have told a French teen who said Islam was a “religion of hate” to go into hiding after calls for her to be killed, raped or attacked.

The 16-year-old girl, named only Mila, has been warned to stay away from her school in southeast France as well as going outside.

The case has become a big story in France which has five to six million Muslims who often claim they suffer discrimination on a greater scale than their counterparts in the UK.

This week the hashtags #jesuismila (I am Mila) and #jenesuispasmila (I am not Mila) have been among the most popular on Twitter in France.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10811561/french-girl-hiding-anti-islam-comments-online-spark-death-threats/
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