'It's heartbreaking': Ex-Labour minister urges voters to support Tories

A crying shame that the party set up to represent the interests of the indigenous working class have scabbed all over that ideal and have been reduced to the party of choice for virtue signalling c*nts and those seeking entitlement.

"I disagree with lots of things the Conservatives have done but I wouldn't say they're unfit to lead the country - so I've got to be honest about it."

WALOFS!

Bloke is a complete liar and deluded! He has to be honest? He thinks a liar, a racist and a proven buffoon, a man that as Prime Minister lost the first seven votes is fit to lead the country?

What did he advise the likes of Blair and Brown on...PFI, how to Privatise the NHS?

He thinks someone like Corbyn whose mother stood against Mosely's Fascists on Cable Street is a racist and Bullingdon Boy is not!  WALOFS!

In the olden days they used to hang, draw amd quarter traitors

He must hope Corbyn does not get into power and reintroduce that..

I am true blue labour, I support Corbyn and will vote for him

The Middle East is a very complicated situation, people have a right to their different views

Whether on the side of Israel or Palestine....it is what democracy is about.

Just interested to know how many Jewish boys have been murdered on the streets of London this year.

In the olden days they used to hang, draw amd quarter traitors

Yes but that was for betraying your king or country.

Not for betraying a set of pound shop anti-Semitists.

I agree with him. You would have to have taken leave of your senses to vote Labour with the current leadership. They will destroy the economy and social cohesion leaving our children and grandchildren to pick up the bill. Talk about voting to make yourself poorer.

How odd that whiperingdeath has never seen the squalid 3rd world enclaves in many Labour run urban parts of this country. Not so great, nor safe, for those forced to live there because they can't afford to flee.

FCUK ISRAEL!

That's not a anti Jewish slogan

So Fcuk Israel

why have their been so many anti semitic  attacks in the last few years
what else has increased over those years that has made it so
more fluoride ?

or has it just floated down from the sky?   

I think we know the answer to that.

The Third World/Sharia Law vote is Labour's solitary remaining core block vote. You can see why Corbyn doesn't have to worry or care about the Jewish vote.

I should think the way labour have dealt with this as only encouraged the haters.

Anti-Semitism - Labour did absolutely nothing; Brexit - they did nothing too; despicable activities in Huddersfield, Yorkshire, Rochdale, etc - they also did nothing.

What are Labour good for? Absolutely nothing!

Will Jewish people be any safer in this country if there is a Conservative Government?

Is it only Labour Party members that are anti semitic?

Do you think the Conservative Party members will stand and fight on the streets to protect the Jewish Community from a march by Facists? How many anti facists do they have in the Conservative Party. Is Dorris one of them. He said he would throw himself in front of the bulldozers but didn't. Would he be prepared to defend Jewish residents from Facist's with his fist's...I think not!

Jewish people in this country should know they can look to the Labour Party to defend them from Facist's and anti semites.

The Jewish News reported: "Jeremy Corbyn has spoken emotionally of his mother’s role in an anti-fascist street fight as hundreds of people marched through the streets of east London to mark its 80th anniversary. The Labour leader told how he had learned all about the 1936 Battle of Cable Street from Naomi Corbyn, who had been present when left-wing demonstrators fought police guarding a planned march by British fascists through a heavily Jewish neighbourhood."

"An overwhelming 78 per cent of British Jews would prefer a no deal Brexit over the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a new poll has confirmed.

Asked to decide between both scenarios as their least objectionable outcome for the UK in the coming months, just 12 per cent of respondents to the survey, conducted by the polling firm Survation for the JC, said they would rather see the Labour leader in Downing Street than exiting the European Union without a deal.

When asked separately whether they would consider voting Labour at the next general election with or without Mr Corbyn as Labour leader, just 7 per cent said they would consider supporting the party.

But in a sign that Labour could win back substantial numbers of Jewish voters if Mr Corbyn were no longer in charge, 42 per cent said they could vote for the party with a new leader.

Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, told the JC: “I’m afraid this poll reflects what I hear on the doorstep in my own community, but seeing it so starkly presented is devastating – not least for significant numbers of Jews who clearly want to vote Labour but can’t because of Jeremy Corbyn.

“Given our very public failure to tackle antisemitism within our ranks, who can blame them?”

The clear opposition to Mr Corbyn becoming PM, even when faced with the scenario of a No Deal Brexit, is even more devastating for Labour when taking into account the previously pro-Remain sympathies of British Jews in past opinion polls.

A Survation poll carried out for the JC in May 2016, ahead of the referendum that year, revealed that 49 per cent of Jews wished to remain in the EU. Only just over a third – 34 per cent – backed Brexit, with 17 per cent stating they were undecided.

Dudley North MP Ian Austin, who quit Labour earlier this year in protest at the party’s antisemitism crisis, said: “This poll shows the shameful extent to which the Jewish community – which traditionally showed strong support for Labour – has been alienated by the racism which has poisoned the party under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership.

“Six times as many Jewish people would vote Labour with a different leader – so even if moderate MPs won't get rid of him because it is the right thing to do, you'd have thought they would at least do it for electoral reasons.”

Ahead of the 2017 general election, a Survation poll for the JC showed just 13 per cent of British Jews planned to vote Labour under Mr Corbyn.

The latest figure of seven per cent shows his popularity has dipped even further."

I would think there are plenty who feel the same. It's a shambles.

In December, 1931, Harold Harmsworth, 1st Lord Rothermere, the press baron, whose newspapers had been especially hostile to the New Party during the election, had a meeting with Mosley. According to his son, Nicholas Mosley, Rothermere told him that he was prepared to put the Harmsworth press at his disposal if he succeeded in organising a disciplined Fascist movement from the remnants of the New Party. The details of this meeting was recorded in his diary by Mosley's close friend, Harold Nicolson

It was very important to Rothermere that this new party would target working-class voters in order that it would help the fortunes of the Conservative Party.

Plus ca change!

Labour should kick all and any anti semites out of the Party but this is a political hatchet job by people who have no interest in the Jewish community. Labour will do more to protect Jewish people and communities in this country including standing on the street and fighting the Fascist's. Make no mistake!

moisok
07 Nov 19 16:13
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why have their been so many anti semitic  attacks in the last few years
what else has increased over those years that has made it so
more fluoride ?

or has it just floated down from the sky?   

I think we know the answer to that.

Because everything is stemming from the Middle East situation

My opinion is that Western interference in the Middle East since 1990 was WRONG!

It was fairly obvious to me  why it was done...and I am very sad that Blair a LABOUR prime minister, supported it

7% !!

The reason Momemntum hate's Jews is because of the association of Jews with being wealthy hard working capitalists, friendly with the USA and Momemntum hate people with money and hate the USA. It is hatred and it's now endemic within the party.  It's sad but true, but they'd sooner side with terrorist organisations like ISIS, than Israel

It is hatred and it's now endemic within the party.

That is absolute rubbish and a lie!

Where did you hear that? Are you a Labour Party member? When did you last hear an anti semitic comment in the street or in a shop? Have you ever seen anybody attacked in the street because they are Jewish?

I don't know what Jeremy Corbyn's relationship was like with his mother, but he did come from a wealthy family and was sent to private school.  I'd say for sure their beliefs and ideology was quite different.  These are private schools that Labour under Corbyn want to ban, and let the public purse foot the bill for their education instead, just to satisfy their hatred of people who can afford and choose to do it.

Whispering it's the first party ever to be investigated for institutional racism.

5 out of 6 Jewish people who might vote Labout won't under Corbyn.

Do you really think the Labour Party is full of anti semites Clydebank? I mean really. Go to a local Labour Club wearing the furry hat and see if you get any abuse! You might get the odd funny look but I very much doubt any bad words or treatment.

as a member I have never heard any anti semitism at any meeting - however there is a new group called momentum who I have nothing in common with - rich boy landsman and his acolytes have added a very nasty vile threatening anti democratic feel to the movement.
I am sure there are many of us recognise this. It is THEIR WAY ON NO WAY.   Some of them belong more to socialist worker than anything else.  That is where a lot of this is coming from - look at some of the candidates THEY have backed.  Uxbridge and West midlands.
There's another one but can't remember his name but has been mentioned on the forum. 
The Baroness has cleared us of anti semitism anyway and has been rewarded

So it's all fine now

I can't really understand why you'd think otherwise.  Not traditional Labour members of 10 years ago, but Corbyn and McDonnell definitely at least mildly anti semitic, but of the new members in the last 5-10 years, I'd think 1 in 5 of them are very anti semitic

would one say they are pro Palestinian pro Hamas etc etc as opposed to being anti jewish anti semitic to anyone in the uk or am I straying off the mark?  A very fine line.  But to have a candidate who challenged the right of Israel to exist is way over the top. and appearing on Iranian TV  (and it wasn't corbyn this time)

It's the same thing moisok. The pro Palestine excuse is used as a cover.

We know who the bulk of these types are in the Labour party, and there's no changing them.
Or getting rid of them.
And they're working their way in deeper all the time.

All the main parties support the spread of Islam across the UK. Therefore by definition they are ALL anti semitic.

Where Islam spreads, Jews are persecuted. The following nations ban Jews from entering:-

    Syria
    Iran
    Iraq
    Yemen
    Libya
    Algeria
    Bangladesh
    Brunei
    Kuwait
    Lebanon
    Malaysia
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Sudan
    Saudi Arabia
    United Arab Emirates

The present Labour Party is just a smidgeon of old; modern Labour is antisemic, and possibly proud too to reflect or announce their dominance in The Party. Hopefully, a good spanking in the impending General Election will bring them down 3 or 4 pegs. The views of the new members are mostly imported, and not British otherwise I'll be a voter.

That is also rubbish Crippen

Unless you are now saying that being anti Israel is anti semitic.

Is that what you are saying?

Are you saying to criticize Israel for killing children, using phosphorous bombs on civillian's  and stealing Palestinian peoples homes is antisemitic

Injera,

Malaysia is the only country on that list that I would consider visiting, infact I shall be visiting next year. I thought they were a religiously tolerant country with millions of Christians. The rest I have absolutely no desire to go to with the possible exception of Oman as a stopover for a far East flight. I heard it is beautiful in places.

The sooner the Iranians overthrow their Religious Tyrants the sooner they can show the world what a wonderful hospitable people they are and how much they can contribute to civilisation

WD - but you're not banned from any of them, whereas all Jews are.

Islam is encouraged by Merkel, Macron, Johnson, Corbyn, Sturgeon and Swinson. How does that benefit the Jews??

I got no truck with any religion and yes I think Islam is as bad if not worse than any of them. I would not wish to visit any Islamic State. I like my freedom and I like a drink!

and I like bacon so they can all go and fcek themselves!

And he signed it

The Corbyn Vote is the CARNAGE VOTE

Labour are the party of the public sector and the minorities , the only time they have any interest in the indigenous white working class is an election.
Places oop North have now realised we have had a Labour mp/ council here for 60 years and things are getting worse.
The scales are falling from the working classes eyes and Labour are finished.

Let us not Forget how he Approaches the Serious Issue of Rape Gangs

Jeremy Corbyn has forced one of his senior ministers to resign after she claimed that some Pakistani men groom and rape young white girls, it has emerged.

Sarah Champion, the Labour MP for Rotherham and former shadow secretary of state for women and equalities, was asked to resign after writing an article in The Sun newspaper warning that more must be done to stop gangs of Pakistani men targeting young girls for sex.

Issuing a desperate plea she called on the Government to investigate why so many men who share the same cultural background are behind bars for abusing young girls.

Champion was swiftly Removed

The Tory party have appointed Austin  as an envoy for Israel, I didn't hear that mentioned in any of the interviews.


The establishment, capitalists etc forever make the point ,that anyone seeking to discredit them and seek a Socialist ethos, is antisimetic

" .......The advantage of this line of attack for a capitalist class keen to maintain its privileges hardly needs pointing out. Any effort to articulate a programme for radical change, for socialism, becomes inherently vulnerable to the charge of anti-semitism.

Daniel Finn, editor of the New Left Review, recently set out what the stake is. The primary goal of the Blairites and the Israeli lobby in Labour—and his opponents in the British establishment—“is to destroy Corbyn altogether.”

And if that fails, a secondary aim is to get him to capitulate on Palestinian rights. “If we can’t hold the line in defence of Corbyn’s eminently moderate stance on Palestine, we certainly won’t be in any condition to resist the pressure that is still to come.”

In short, his critics inside and outside the Labour Party need Corbyn crushed or tamed. And the inexhaustible anti-semitism crisis offers a route to one or the other solution.

The radical change pogrom was initiated in Venezuela ,

The establishment, capitalists etc forever make the point ,that anyone seeking to discredit them and seek a Socialist ethos, is antisimetic

mmm No, that's complete BS, and an excuse used to ignore anti semitism in the party.

42% of Jews would consider voting for Labour w/o Corbyn.  Only 7% with.  That's damning.  It's damning at 14%, but 7% is off the chart

Not many give a sheite about the likes of bitter and twisted Ian Austin

Guido Fawkes and the Tory Press can continue much raking and making up lies but it will not affect the result of the General Election which is about the many not the few, the many not the Jew as some of you have already coined it!

Hopefully Jewish people will see through the lies and smears. It will not be the Conservative Party or the Labour Party who come to the defence of Jewish people and communities. It will be Labour members and voters who will stand and face down the Fascist's just like they did in the 1930's and it might be a good for Jewish people and communities to know that. I cannot see Conservative voters standing in the way of an assault by The Far Right, they are becoming the Far Right!

"Hopefully Jewish people will see through the lies and smears."

Except it's not lies and smears.  That's why it's 7% and not 42%

as I keep saying you ought to see some of the candidates standing if you want to see anti semitism or 'book' attitudes to sexual freedom

I worry for The Labour Party. They have gone to far-left, and too political correctness inclined. I fear in the future they might not represent old-value Labour, and yours truly.

Ian austin , john woodcock  what a pair of coonts

Blair and his toads joining forces with the spivs to destroy Jeremy

Too far left?

Don't make me laugh.

Madame Guillotine is what is needed! Bullingdon needs to be culled from British Politics and hopefully the electorate will see to that in December!

mainly interested in sectional minority group interests  - forget the comrades all in it together slant
rich boy landsman has really done the job for the spivs

landsman is a spiv himself  ha ha   and don't even mention starmer, kinnock or lady nugee

jon does very well for himself - have you seen his drum?

anxious    08 Nov 19 19:13 
Ian austin , john woodcock  what a pair of coonts


Totally

anxious    08 Nov 19 19:13 
Ian austin , john woodcock  what a pair of coonts


Totally

no you did not listen

Jon Lansman rather well off chappie fits in well with Lady Nugee and our new Baroness

Let us not Forget how he Approaches the Serious Issue of Rape Gangs

Jeremy Corbyn has forced one of his senior ministers to resign after she claimed that some Pakistani men groom and rape young white girls, it has emerged.

Sarah Champion, the Labour MP for Rotherham and former shadow secretary of state for women and equalities, was asked to resign after writing an article in The Sun newspaper warning that more must be done to stop gangs of Pakistani men targeting young girls for sex.

Issuing a desperate plea she called on the Government to investigate why so many men who share the same cultural background are behind bars for abusing young girls.

Champion was swiftly Removed

CAN OUR LUVVIE FRIENDS PLEASE LET US KNOW IF LABOUR PLAN  A BLITZ ON THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF YOUNG WOMEN ???
DO THE LIBS  HAVE ANY PLAN TO STOP IT ??

No chance while they have the block vote case.