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terry mccann
26 Oct 19 12:57
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"Californians take PG&E to court".
"Mass Tort filed against utilities for HEALTH EFFECTS  from SMART METERS/SMART GRID"
A total of 16 plantiffs ,10 Edison and 6 PG&E allege have suffering health effects from the new wireless meters ranging from headaches,loss of sleep and tinnitus to heart attack.Cancer and medical implant interference/defibrillator shut offs".
The utilities are being charged with negligence fraud and deceit,product liability and intentional infliction of emotional distress"."The suit alleges the defendants withheld  impotant safety information associated with the use of Smart Meters as well as multiple violations of California law including California civil code section 1710 which deceit as an untrue assertion or suppression of a fact so as to mislead".
"A settlement was recently reached with PG&E in a wrongful death,Smart Meter fire suit and BEAT EDISON IN COURT TO ACHIEVE THE FIRST FREE OPT OUT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA".

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By:
terry mccann
When: 26 Oct 19 13:00
"Thank you Smart Meters" the little children are told to say.If only they knew the truthDevil
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Oct 19 13:19
yeah I saw that advert - they've changed from saying that "smart meters are great because people now know that if you turn on a lot of stuff you use a lot of power" to "smart meters are great because they give us info about the power people are using". That is just as stupid a  reason as their first one.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 26 Oct 19 13:29
I have one, courtesy of n-power...

It's a long way from the main living areas, including where I spend much of the day....

Just got a statement (electric only) and £11.26 in credit with £55.00 per month direct debit....

I need to look deeper into this, as I know that my daily usage is, for most days, less than £1.00 and at most £1.60,
on days where the dishwasher, washing machine and tumble drier have been used....
By:
saddo
When: 26 Oct 19 13:52
dave, do you think there are health issues with these things. I don't want one because I don't wan't to feel like I am in a taxi watching the meter all day.
By:
conditor
When: 26 Oct 19 13:55
Saddo you’ve answered your own question
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Oct 19 14:04
My objections are that they provide me zero advantage, could be hacked and are part of the idiotic scheme to have everything in a house connected to the internet.  It is unclear what advantages they provide the power company other than remote readings (which don't work if you change contract).
By:
saddo
When: 26 Oct 19 14:06
Thanks.
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Oct 19 14:20
Shocked
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Oct 19 14:22
Hinkley groundwater contamination  They have a Bit of Form PG&E 

From 1952 to 1966, Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) dumped about 370 million gallons of chromium-tainted wastewater into unlined wastewater spreading ponds around the town of Hinkley, California, located in the Mojave Desert (about 120 miles north-northeast of Los Angeles).[1][2]

PG&E used chromium 6, or hexavalent chromium (a cheap and efficient rust suppressor), in its compressor station for natural-gas transmission pipelines.[1]:[3] Hexavalent-chromium compounds are genotoxic carcinogens.

In 1993, legal clerk Erin Brockovich began an investigation into the health impacts of the contamination. A class-action lawsuit about the contamination was settled in 1996 for $333 million, the largest settlement of a direct-action lawsuit in U.S. history. In 2008, PG&E settled the last of the cases involved with the Hinkley claims. Since then, the town's population has dwindled to the point that in 2016 The New York Times described Hinkley as having slowly become a ghost town.[4][5]
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Oct 19 14:52
Can't see the point.

We use what we need to use so how can it save us money?
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Oct 19 15:02
Ur Right Doc
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Oct 19 15:24
Never appealed to me - can't really see the benefits.

I don't care if I overpay on an estimated bill as will get the money back when I can be bothered to submit gas/electric readings.
I don't need to look at a smart phone to realise that will use less energy when the heating / lights/ TV etc. are turned  off .

Guess some people like the ability to remotely turn on heating before they come home but not for me.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 26 Oct 19 16:18
Ok, I got one as nothing to lose but, as with schemes pushing free, or 50% off insulation measures, what has to be asked is,
"who pays for all of this"?

The answer of course is we all do, just like we pay shop prices which include a levy to cover "shrinkage" aka theft!

Just like we pay high vehicle insurance, for insurers to claw back losses, from uninsured drivers!
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 26 Oct 19 16:44
They want people to use less energy .so they can put the prices up
By:
saddo
When: 26 Oct 19 19:13
They have to increase the unit price to maintain profits if they sell less units, very true.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 26 Oct 19 19:19
You can have it outside.

Good for landlords who don't want to left with debt.

Good for the company who get to screw you.

Not good for the impoverished who can freeze and can't count the days in the week.

SMASH THE MIDDLE
By:
moisok
When: 26 Oct 19 20:16
as with us all dying   -   fried by greta  - it is inevitable - keep eating your vegetables until they run out after brexit

I am always here to help.
By:
moisok
When: 26 Oct 19 20:19
'WE ARE IN THE AREA AND CAN FIT YOUR METER NOW'

it is like something out of 1984   

I find it rather spooky

I can see myself with barbed wire all around the property

yah know - like the last resident in the street before they knock it down 


When I go out people will scowl and spit at me as the only person in the village without a so called smart meter
being followed by the 'meter' patrols  hahahah
By:
Make my hay
When: 26 Oct 19 21:03
I don't something fitted to my house that may be a fire hazard, zap me with EMFs + spy on me.

I ditched E-on a few months ago because their cheapest tariffs now require a smart meter being fitted, now with Shell Energy who are a lot cheaper and no smart meter needed.
By:
The Knight
When: 26 Oct 19 21:37
Christ,

What else can people find to moan about?

I thought smart meters were a gimmick until I had one fitted last summer. What a great tool it is. I can see when and where I am spending money on energy when I don't need to and I could not care less if my power company can see what I am doing!

What a backward, negative country we have become. Suspicious of everything and petty as you like.

There is nothing wrong with Smart meters unless your life is so dull you are looking for issues to become worked up about.

BTW - I was equally skeptical about Sky Plus until I had that fitted a few months back, as well. A massive, massive improevment on the Sky I had before.

But wait...perhaps Sky are slowly killing me across the ether and spying on me as they do so.

For f*cks sake!
By:
terry mccann
When: 26 Oct 19 21:46
So why are people taking the supplies to court and winning, the f ucking things are plain dangerous in every way but I so happy you think you are saving a few bob.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 26 Oct 19 22:12
Here is a tear-down of a smart meter by a very well respected electronics pro. https://youtu.be/G32NYQpvy8Q

Personally i can't see any real benefit for the consumer.
By:
detraveller
When: 26 Oct 19 22:17

Oct 26, 2019 -- 9:46PM, terry mccann wrote:


So why are people taking the supplies to court and winning, the f ucking things are plain dangerous in every way but I so happy you think you are saving a few bob.


These guys won a court case against the elite? I don't believe that. So the guys spraying us with chemicals for decades, setting up our death with 5G, faking world wide attacks and killing millions in war just so they can sell their weapons just lost a court case because someone doesn't like the smart meters they use to spy on them?

The elite suck. Or their lawyers are too stupid.

Or maybe they just don't exist?

By:
Make my hay
When: 26 Oct 19 23:03
Northern California is under a multi-layered attack and not just by smart meters. For the pasted month it's been heavily chemtrailed, laying out fresh combustible metals all ready for the directed energy weapons.
In the coming days, weeks and months massive houses and buildings are going to be burned in fires so hot that nothing will remain but ash just a few inches high and the trees nearby will still be standing.
Cars will melt at the side of the road but nearby trees will still be standing..untouched.
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Oct 19 23:17
The Knight Happy with his Meter ,  as stated PG&E Caused Multi Deaths , These Power companies interest in One thing PROFIT

Fook all to do with  Green Energy , GREAT THUNDERBURG  and the Mob dont give a fook either Its all part of the Climate Agenda

Just a Note to those with them Installed be sure to Pay your Bills , They can disconnect the supply Remotely .... Of course

None of the Shrewd People with them installed will ever fall on hard times ...

As for the companies Fook em and fook their Meters IMO Cool

They will end up paying people to have them Installed Grin
By:
Get me a drink
When: 27 Oct 19 07:28

Oct 26, 2019 -- 11:03PM, Make my hay wrote:


Northern California is under a multi-layered attack and not just by smart meters. For the pasted month it's been heavily chemtrailed, laying out fresh combustible metals all ready for the directed energy weapons.In the coming days, weeks and months massive houses and buildings are going to be burned in fires so hot that nothing will remain but ash just a few inches high and the trees nearby will still be standing. Cars will melt at the side of the road but nearby trees will still be standing..untouched.


UN Agenda 21.

This already happened in a Paradise, CA just last year. Drone footage shows large houses completely incinerated - burned to the ground but surrounding vegetation virtually untouched, in what was reported in the media as a 'camp fire'. Hundreds of people fried alive in their own homes and cars with no chance of escape. Sad

'Coincidentally' California band The Eagles sang 'Call some place Paradise, kiss it goodbye' on their Hotel California album as far back as the 1970's

By:
dave1357
When: 27 Oct 19 09:10
^^^

ha ha make my hay more bonkers than mccann.
By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Oct 19 10:12
Smart Meter lawsuits include
DIAGNOSIS OF PRE-CANCEROUS CELLS
ENDOCRINE PROBLEMS
FERTILITY PROBLEMS
HEART ARRHYTHMIA

also

FAULTY PG&E SMART METERS STARTED HOUSE FIRES

and

SMART METERS CONSTANT MICROWAVE RADIATION.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 10:19
Coco pops are evil too terry
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 10:24
You will notice not a single bird will go near 5 g masts
even when they are disguised to look like trees
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Oct 19 10:29
Cars will melt at the side of the road but nearby trees will still be standing..untouched.

By:
detraveller
When: 27 Oct 19 10:33
Jokes aside, does anyone know how the trees survive but the house is turned into ashes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_b0o-1_r9Q

$
By:
northanlite
When: 27 Oct 19 10:59
California has had wildfires for tens of thousands of years. As such, the native tree species tend to be highly resistant to fire.

California’s climate can best be described as “cool wet winters, hot dry summers”. Trees tend to be drought resistant, as does the grassland and other plants in the area. Any plant life that couldn’t withstand fire and drought just didn’t make it to the present.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Oct 19 12:11
Thanks. That sounds like a more believable explanation than 'The trees don't have smart meters'. Still the images are quite unbelievable. If the trees were were partly destroyed but recovered again, it would make a lot more sense. But the fact that not a leaf has been damaged and they are still green, it is quite a thing! Well done nature.
By:
northanlite
When: 27 Oct 19 12:26
Take the redwood. The bark on a redwood is very thick and the canopy is very high.
It takes a hot, hot fire to get through the bark (which is nearly fireproof) and a
very large fire to reach the flammable leaves. The same is true of the sequoia.
Bristlecone pines, which can survive extreme drought, can be five thousand years old.
you don’t make it that long without being able to survive a fire, or fifty fires.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Oct 19 12:30
Death rays that keep trees alive is a great idea, is this part of the Thunderberg effect?
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 12:44
The smart meter let’s me know when I have left a light on in an empty room

luddites hate saving money !
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 13:04
Those of little brain are afraid of this new world ,
where the meters are smarter than they are
By:
saddo
When: 27 Oct 19 13:06
I'd be ashamed to admit I need a machine to tell me I've left a light on at my age tbf, what happened to common sense?
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