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Baphornet
16 Oct 19 22:52
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so the question is; Labour anti-semetism rife in Liverpool?
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Report anxious October 16, 2019 10:55 PM BST
Have you ever been to Liverpool ?
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:02 PM BST
yes - &?
Report boxingthefox October 16, 2019 11:10 PM BST
Yes it's rife everywhere there are Marxists, it's their raison d'être. Sadly
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:11 PM BST
Well one thing is for sure your tory heroes are not popular in Liverpool , with good reason too
Report alun2005 October 16, 2019 11:12 PM BST
The most devastatingly worded UK political resignation since Sir Geoffrey Howe's unforgettable political 'assassination' of Thatcher in the House of Commons in 1990.
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:13 PM BST
i'm struggling to see what that's got to do with Labour being anti-semtic in Liverpool?
Report boxingthefox October 16, 2019 11:14 PM BST
Is that a ys or no Alun
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:16 PM BST
why did she not resign moths ago if she felt so strongly about it
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:17 PM BST
She is 73 she probably would not have stood again anyway , a confirmed Blairite anyway , she wont be missed
Report Foinavon October 16, 2019 11:18 PM BST
I lived there for four years as a student.
My landlady used to yell abuse at the telly whenever Harold Wilson was on.
God bless you Mrs Plews.
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:22 PM BST
Her statement :

“I have made the truly agonising decision to leave the Labour Party after 55 years.

“I can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM.”

The Liverpool Riverside MP added: “I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our Prime Minister. With a looming general election and the possibility of him becoming Prime Minister, I feel I have to take a stand.”

And she told The Times newspaper that if he became prime minister “I believe that Jeremy Corbyn would be a danger to the country, a danger to the Jewish community as well, but a danger to the country too”.

In a statement, Dame Louise said she felt Labour was not a safe place for Jewish people.

She said: “Under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, anti-Semitism has become mainstream in the Labour Party. Jewish members have been bullied, abused and driven out.

“The Labour Party is no longer a safe place for Jews and Jeremy Corbyn must bear the responsibility for this.

“We cannot allow him to do to the country what he has done to the Labour Party.


“The overwhelming majority of the Jewish community is fearful of what a Corbyn government might mean for Britain’s Jews. I share those concerns.

“But this issue is not simply about the Jewish community. This is about the nature of our society.

“Jeremy Corbyn’s seeming tolerance of anti-Semitism would embolden racists, poison our public debate and damage the social cohesion of our country.

“My values – traditional Labour values – have remained the same. It is Labour, under Jeremy Corbyn, that has changed.

“He has presided over a culture of hatred, fear and intolerance in the Labour Party.

“But this issue is no longer just about the Labour Party – it is about the threat a Jeremy Corbyn premiership could pose to the country.”

Dame Louise said she would not join another political party and hoped to return to Labour under a different leadership.

Labour former deputy leader Harriet Harman described the resignation of Dame Louise as “very sad news”.

She tweeted: “Thank you, Louise, for your terrific contribution to Parliament, politics and the Labour Party!”

Liberal Democrat former leader Tim Farron tweeted: “I’ve known Louise for 30 years.

“If there’s no place for Louise Ellman in the 2019 Labour Party, they are finished as a serious force.”
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:22 PM BST
lol voted for the Iraq war , voted to continue trident , yep we know where she is coming from ,  from Manchester as well i am so embarrassed she comes from my hometwown
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:23 PM BST
The usual Establishment Bollacks
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:23 PM BST
She is 73 she probably would not have stood again anyway

whether 73 or 43, anx she was forced out
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:27 PM BST
No she resigned , she was facing no confidence motion and deselection , these things happen all the time
Report saddo October 16, 2019 11:28 PM BST
Labour won't be bothered about a few Jewish voters, they'll bend over backwards and then some for for the more dangerous mob, plenty of votes there.
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:31 PM BST
Oh dear West Yorkshire liberation front puts his oar in
Report Mikael D'Haguenet October 16, 2019 11:31 PM BST
Good riddance.
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:32 PM BST
she was facing no confidence motion and deselection

alt for forced out, anx
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:35 PM BST
no she was facing inquiry she complained of antisemitism remarks and criticism of Israel in three branches , is criticism of Israel not allowed in this country anymore ?
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:36 PM BST
in Labours current climate - no
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:38 PM BST
lol dear me so are we all supposed to sign up to the zionist agenda
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:42 PM BST
let's say Abbott claimed her Party was racist at 3 branches; do you think she would be put up for a N/C vote & be facing deselection?
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:47 PM BST
From what i have heard and read it was looked into , look  she does not like corbyn she did not vote for him in either leadership election , so she was already hostile to him , her letter of resignation is complete garbage , a danger to the country ffs , where is she planning to stand now Golders Green  , yes i think we understand louise  what your up to
Report Baphornet October 16, 2019 11:51 PM BST
jeez anx, most MPs in your Party don't like him. Btw my friend; Golders Green is old news - Stamford Hill is the place. Not too far from Abbotts constituency actually
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:55 PM BST
No the truth is hornet its a stich up job  , the Establishment fear a left wing Labour government  so they will destroy corbyn  and elect a Labour Leader that the Establishment and the tory lie machine approve of and somebody who does not threaten their money , power and priviledge
Report boxingthefox October 16, 2019 11:57 PM BST
The problem with socialists is that they have nothing and want to share with everyone.
Report anxious October 16, 2019 11:57 PM BST
This has happened before and will happen again , so that you just have the same cabal running the country forever and nothing ever changes
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:00 AM BST
which would you rather see, anx a Tory government or a Labour one without Jezza?
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 12:03 AM BST
Historically socialism has failed in every country it that has been tried in, in the last century. Do we learn from history, apparently not
Report anxious October 17, 2019 12:04 AM BST
Lol it would depend what policies were on offer , if you have effectively 2 tory parties i suppose you might as well have the real thing
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:06 AM BST
you've got that Yank numpty Sanders (interesting watch last night) trying to do what Corbyn will fail to do
Report anxious October 17, 2019 12:06 AM BST
Corbyn and Mcdonnell are only reformists anyway , the way they have been demonised as revolutionary Marxists is laughable , they are not even that left wing or radical to be honest
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:07 AM BST
more Blair? Now i know you would hate thatLaugh
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:08 AM BST
hey Boxy hows your health?
Report anxious October 17, 2019 12:09 AM BST
Bernie Sanders done very well against Clinton in 2016 , he got stitched up by the Democrats upper brass , Bernie might have beaten trump he has a lot of support in America , to old now though
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:14 AM BST
might be a straight fight between him & Biden; pick your grandpa time
or in Bidens case great grandpa might be more apt
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 12:15 AM BST
here's an idea let's bring Venezuela to its knees with our communist agenda, Well done Jez and McDon, you got that so right.
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 12:17 AM BST
Hey Bap, great thanks, hope all is well with you.
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 12:26 AM BST
well i hope that's true my friend. Take it easy & don't let anx corrupt you with his Blair rhetoricWink
Report casemoney October 17, 2019 12:37 AM BST
An Astoundng Letter Shocked Shirley there will be calls For Jezza  to call a leadership Vote Plain

The Labour party has become a Disaster ,With MPs in Hight Brexit Voting areas now in Desperate Trouble With the threat

Of an election on the Horizon Do they Vote to remain and put their Seats in Peril , Or Do they Vote to leave And Keep

The Monthly  Kite hitting the Bank Shocked

If Boris has Managed some Kind of Reasonable Out ,the Sounds Of flapping and Farting in the House Will be Overwhelmimg Laugh

FLAP !! FLAP !! FLAP !! Grin
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2019 12:52 AM BST
What is the anti semioticism Louise Ellman is complaining of?
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2019 12:52 AM BST
semiticism
Report Facts October 17, 2019 8:07 AM BST
Liverpool Riverside MP Louise Ellman has quit the Labour Party, days before she was due to face a 'trigger' ballot by local members on whether to make her face a selection contest.

Members were confident of a successful trigger vote after Ms Ellman refused to answer when asked at a member meeting whether she would support a Corbyn government.

Although she refused to say so in front of members, Ellman's letter announcing her decision says that she would not.

A recent motion of no confidence in the MP was taken off the table in order not to mar the trigger ballot meetings due to be held next week.

Ms Ellman is held responsible by many members for a regional Labour decision to put Riverside CLP (constituency Labour party) into 'special measures' two years ago, forcing members to switch from all-member meetings to the more easily **** delegate-based meeting system. Left-wing Jewish members in Riverside suffered bullying and false accusations by her supporters.

Ellman notoriously attacked Jeremy Corbyn for attending a Westminster meeting at which a holocaust survivor was the speaker. She told television viewers that she was 'appalled' to find out Corbyn had attended the meeting, but the SKWAWKBOX revealed that she had also attended the whole event herself.

Riverside will now join the other twenty CLPs to hold open selection processes following the defection or retirement of a Labour MP.
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2019 12:44 PM BST
thank you facts
Report moisok October 17, 2019 3:20 PM BST
there is a candidate standing for our party who didn't think israel should exist

he was whitewashed by the party and is still not just a member but still a candidate

think about that
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2019 3:30 PM BST
Neither do I Moisock

I support Palestine and the right of the Palestinians....but do not advocate violence

I am white British

We allow people their opinions Moisock?????
Report saddo October 17, 2019 3:46 PM BST
The problem is that if you gave Israel to the Palestinians it would look like the rest of Palestine in a year or two. Look at what the South Africans are doing with their 'reclaimed' land, rape murder pillage and ruin.
Report moisok October 17, 2019 3:48 PM BST
he doesn't rule it out  - that is what we need to be aware of

and a great friend of Iran - which is good for peace that they say they are so fond of
Report moisok October 17, 2019 3:49 PM BST
that was to regy
Report moisok October 17, 2019 3:51 PM BST
ps and what the followers of the book want is paramount in a 'shifting demographic' - that is a superb way of putting it and so sinister  - love it love it  - suck it up people  - your future awaits you
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 4:21 PM BST
shifting demographic = infidels wiped out
Report treetop October 17, 2019 5:03 PM BST
She will be dismissed as just another Jew with an agenda.
Report moisok October 17, 2019 5:47 PM BST
it is the least you need to worry about

it is what they are recruiting to their ranks you need to be concerned about

they boast about it

it is like they deserve a medal for every one of them they can get in the party

same with the torys - they are in competition to get the most

like a badge of honour
Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:18 PM BST
I said on another thread that its my birthday on saturday and im not getting involved in this or fookin brexit , i have plenty of Old Tom and Guinness stout and some uppers and downers , and i will be hopefully in private box on Sunday watching United try to stop the scousers , yes indeed thats more febrile than Israel V the Arabs
Report saddo October 17, 2019 10:25 PM BST
It's only Thursday, how long do you celebrate yer birthday ffs?
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 10:27 PM BST
anx needs sa day or so to blow the ringworm away
Report moisok October 17, 2019 10:27 PM BST
ALL THE best anx
I will be on that game 
what is 1 3  or unquoted looking like?
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 10:28 PM BST
happy birthday for Saturday anyway you Jezzarite
Report moisok October 17, 2019 10:28 PM BST
buzzer this is a second warning!! use woz told
Report Baphornet October 17, 2019 10:29 PM BST
which reminds me; how come we don't say Arabite?
Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:32 PM BST
Under 2.5 goals is my only recommendation
Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:34 PM BST
i have reached a landmark birthday i am a year older
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 10:34 PM BST

Oct 17, 2019 -- 10:18PM, anxious wrote:


I said on another thread that its my birthday on saturday and im not getting involved in this or fookin brexit , i have plenty of Old Tom and Guinness stout and some uppers and downers , and i will be hopefully in private box on Sunday watching United try to stop the scousers , yes indeed thats more febrile than Israel V the Arabs


Hey anx, thank you for your good wishes yesterday, I'm fine thanks and I hope you are well and winning my friend.

I love the fact that we are A polar opposites (polictially) but can have a debate without turning it into a slanging match, fair play to you. Love

Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:34 PM BST
55 not out
Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:36 PM BST
Boxing hope you are well my friend , yes we may disagree on lots of things but its best not let it get personal , i dont like thats sort of thing  even though i admit i am coont at times
Report moisok October 17, 2019 10:38 PM BST
But you are from a northern tribe - wot else do you expect

all the best
Report moisok October 17, 2019 10:39 PM BST
boxing

the three tuns has changed hands

not such a good watering hole anymore
all the best
Report anxious October 17, 2019 10:42 PM BST
Thanks for your good wishes
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 10:43 PM BST
anx Laugh we are all guilty of that, perhaps it's just human nature, a relief valve that stops the men in white coats coming to take us away?.

Mo you are without doubt a great, erudite poster on here whom I admire. I know i responded to our last conversation with great indigitny. That was then this is now, Hope everything is good with you.
Report moisok October 17, 2019 10:53 PM BST
Mr Brush.
I have my I on ewe - I like to keep order - especially with young newcomers like yourself - but I am happy to guide you through the minefield of disarray.
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 10:58 PM BST
'Mo you are without doubt a great, erudite poster on here whom I admire. I know i responded to our last conversation with great indigitny. That was then this is now, Hope everything is good with you'

In case you missed it this is an apology. Sorry mate.
Report moisok October 17, 2019 11:04 PM BST
you have nothing to apologise for my friend
Report boxingthefox October 17, 2019 11:05 PM BST
Thanks, I realise  like me. you are watching the muppets on QT, Cry
Report moisok October 17, 2019 11:20 PM BST
they look awfully real
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