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kenny mann
14 Oct 19 12:35
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I just want to know what this company is worth. I make it £100m but that seems high. Cheers.


https://www.cats.org.uk/media/2532/annual-report-accounts-2018.pdf

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By:
kenny mann
When: 14 Oct 19 12:39
Taking a chick out for lunch, will look in later, hopefully someone can read a balance sheet.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 14 Oct 19 12:42
They have net assets of £100m and it may be that they could realise that amount of cash if they were dissolved.

However, £40m is in TFA which may well be necessary to conduct their activities.
By:
kenny mann
When: 14 Oct 19 14:59
Thanks a lot, much appreciated. :-)
By:
posy
When: 14 Oct 19 15:27
Impossible to tell as freeholds valued at cost and as far as i can see there's no mention of their market value.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 14 Oct 19 15:36
Actually, they state that freehold land and buildings are stated at cost less depreciation.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 14 Oct 19 15:41
...on that basis, TFAs may be worth more than £40m but as stated earlier, they may be fundamental to operations unless they have bigger or fancier offices than necessary.
By:
Crisp77
When: 14 Oct 19 16:21
I'm an accountant based in Slough Plain
By:
posy
When: 14 Oct 19 16:21
Of course they may be worth more than the net book value ;that's my point. I've not read through the accounts carefully ,but can't readily see any reference to market value.
By:
Angoose
When: 14 Oct 19 16:24
You will not be surprised to learn that there are several methods by which valuations are placed on companies.
From the information available, the only valuation that can be arrived at is the book value which, as already noted, is £100M.

The fixed assets of this particular organisation is £40.2M, valued at historical cost less deprecation.
This is in line with the accounting standards outlined in FRS 102 which are the standards under which these accounts have been prepared.

It makes use of the "going concern" concept i.e. the organizations intends to continue with its current activities.

Alternative valuation methods include the following:

Market capitalisation
This is normally the number of issued shares multiplied by the current share price.
This is not applicable for this organization.

Enterprise value
This is often used as an alternative to market capitalisation and can be viewed as the theoretical takeover value of the enterprise.
It is calculated using the formula  Enterprise value = Market capitalisation + Net debt - cash
Again, not applicable for this organization.

Multipliers
Other commonly used valuation methods include multiples of either revenue or earnings.
The multiplier to be used will be dependent on  the industry segment and the state of maturity of the organization.

Discounted cash flow
Similar to the earnings multiplier, this valuation method attempts to adjust projected future cash flows for inflation.

The valuation method that you will use for any given purpose if highly contextual.

This organisation has a straight forward balance sheet, the only item that would be subject to revision would be the fixed assets.

Insufficient details to be able to arrive at a solid conclusion, but it does appear likely that the market value of their fixed assets would struggle to match the book value should they be required to dispose of them in a short time frame.

In general, the accounts are reasonably impressive for a charity, a lot more detail than you might expect to be the case.
You could say that they are cool for catsGrin

Any particular reason for your interest in this organization?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 14 Oct 19 16:38
The 'value' of the organisation may be a bit of a red herring.  The question really is whether they are making the best use of their income and assets.

I don't think it matters too much whether their L & Bs are worth £30m, £40m or £100m unless they could move into cheaper offices or sell and rent.

There is also the question of their investments.  Are they getting a good return?  Would it make more sense to sell and plough in to their core activities?
By:
kenny mann
When: 14 Oct 19 16:39
Thanks for all that work, Angoose. Yes, I'll be back tonight to explain. Just a bit tied up atm
By:
kenny mann
When: 15 Oct 19 00:15
quick precis. The fackin foreigners in Bradford have no idea how to look after cats, and we are overrun with strays and helpless kittens due to them not getting neutered and spayed,and despite the best efforts of a good few cat lovers. Cat's Protection have not been seen in the area for 8 months, and before I fire off at them I just wanted to know what they were worth. Cheers.
By:
Angoose
When: 15 Oct 19 10:58
I've recently got involved with two local charities and their reserves are nowhere near the value of Cats Protection.
One is £13m and the other £800k.

For your purposes, the £100M is sufficient to get a feel for the scale of Cats Protection.
Interesting to see that £31.6m of their income (46.5%) came from legacy donations.

I'm currently wrestling with the issue of charity reserves and what a responsible reserve policy should look like.

The reserve policy for Cats Protection is a bit too wooly for my liking but does help me to begin to understand how different organisations approach this tricky subject.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Oct 19 11:04
What its worth?

Depends how much you like Pussay!
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