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• Kenyan runs unofficial time of 1hr 59min 40sec in Vienna
• World record holder was assisted by 41 pacemakers and lasers
Eliud Kipchoge made history in Vienna by running the first-ever sub two-hour marathon in a time of 1hr 59min 40sec. Cheered on by thousands of fans, the Kenyan world record holder and Olympic champion completed four laps of a 9.4km circuit around the Prater, a park in the centre of the Austrian capital.
Kipchoge achieved the feat with a team of 41 in-and-out pacemakers, seven at a time, whose positions were guided by lasers projected on the road from a support car in front. These assisted conditions, and the fact the run was not part of an open event, mean his achievement will not count as an official world record.
He remained on target throughout the effort, running each kilometre consistently in around 2’50”. Five pacemakers ran shoulder-to-shoulder in front of Kipchoge, with one man on either side.
Branded the ‘Ineos 1:59 Challenge’, Battersea Park in London was initially discussed as a potential venue. The 34-year-old previously attempted the feat at Monza in Italy in 2017, falling short by 26 seconds.
Kipchoge said: “I am feeling good. It has taken 65 years for a human to make history in sport. After Roger Bannister [running a sub four-minute mile in 1954] it took another 65 years … I’m happy to be the man to run under two hours. No human is limited, and I’m expecting more people to do it after today.
“The 41 pacemakers are among the best athletes in the whole world … to all of them I want to say thank you, thank you for doing the job. We made history together.”
Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Ineos chairman and CEO, said: “That last kilometre, where he accelerated and he came through on his own, it was super-human really. I can’t believe he ran the first half-marathon in under an hour, and then he had to do that again.”
Speaking in Vienna during Kipchoge’s run, four-times Tour de France champion Chris Froome said: “It’s phenomenal, it’s fantastic, it’s just incredible to watch him – it looks like he’s not even breathing. He’s just gliding over the road. It’s fantastic to be here, and be part of this atmosphere.”
The Kenyan-born cyclist added: “To have someone doing something as monumental as this, it’s such a boost for all the athletes over there in Kenya. It’s showing that the impossible is do-able.”
• World record holder was assisted by 41 pacemakers and lasers
Eliud Kipchoge made history in Vienna by running the first-ever sub two-hour marathon in a time of 1hr 59min 40sec. Cheered on by thousands of fans, the Kenyan world record holder and Olympic champion completed four laps of a 9.4km circuit around the Prater, a park in the centre of the Austrian capital.
Kipchoge achieved the feat with a team of 41 in-and-out pacemakers, seven at a time, whose positions were guided by lasers projected on the road from a support car in front. These assisted conditions, and the fact the run was not part of an open event, mean his achievement will not count as an official world record.
He remained on target throughout the effort, running each kilometre consistently in around 2’50”. Five pacemakers ran shoulder-to-shoulder in front of Kipchoge, with one man on either side.
Branded the ‘Ineos 1:59 Challenge’, Battersea Park in London was initially discussed as a potential venue. The 34-year-old previously attempted the feat at Monza in Italy in 2017, falling short by 26 seconds.
Kipchoge said: “I am feeling good. It has taken 65 years for a human to make history in sport. After Roger Bannister [running a sub four-minute mile in 1954] it took another 65 years … I’m happy to be the man to run under two hours. No human is limited, and I’m expecting more people to do it after today.
“The 41 pacemakers are among the best athletes in the whole world … to all of them I want to say thank you, thank you for doing the job. We made history together.”
Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Ineos chairman and CEO, said: “That last kilometre, where he accelerated and he came through on his own, it was super-human really. I can’t believe he ran the first half-marathon in under an hour, and then he had to do that again.”
Speaking in Vienna during Kipchoge’s run, four-times Tour de France champion Chris Froome said: “It’s phenomenal, it’s fantastic, it’s just incredible to watch him – it looks like he’s not even breathing. He’s just gliding over the road. It’s fantastic to be here, and be part of this atmosphere.”
The Kenyan-born cyclist added: “To have someone doing something as monumental as this, it’s such a boost for all the athletes over there in Kenya. It’s showing that the impossible is do-able.”
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Did you see his post-race celebrations???
Sprinting..puching his fists in the air, after finishing the 26 mile slog in world record time.
It looked like he could run another marathon.
I'll have what he's having.
Sprinting..puching his fists in the air, after finishing the 26 mile slog in world record time.
It looked like he could run another marathon.
I'll have what he's having.
I’m really struggling to put into words how underwhelmed I am.
I saw the news treating it like the moon landing that some guy shaved less than a minute off the fastest marathon and thought, so what?
Had it been in competition I’d have shrugged my shoulders, but hearing it was as contrived as having the weather checked, the venue hand picked, the roads re-tarmacEd, special hand picked pace-setters, biked drink carriers.....and a van projecting a laser on the ground in front of him to keep up with, I simply had to laugh at the height of nonsense seeing cheering and whooping by the crowds.
What’s next, the invention of a primer that dries even more quickly in order to shave off a small amount of time before the first coat of paint gets added?
I saw the news treating it like the moon landing that some guy shaved less than a minute off the fastest marathon and thought, so what?
Had it been in competition I’d have shrugged my shoulders, but hearing it was as contrived as having the weather checked, the venue hand picked, the roads re-tarmacEd, special hand picked pace-setters, biked drink carriers.....and a van projecting a laser on the ground in front of him to keep up with, I simply had to laugh at the height of nonsense seeing cheering and whooping by the crowds.
What’s next, the invention of a primer that dries even more quickly in order to shave off a small amount of time before the first coat of paint gets added?
Is that all there is to a fire?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M
What was so significant about 4 minutes for Roger Bannister?
Forget running a mile or a marathon, the point that was being made is that there are no limits to human achievement.
What may be though impossible can be made possible when you adopt the correct mindset.
That's the point.
Forget running a mile or a marathon, the point that was being made is that there are no limits to human achievement.
What may be though impossible can be made possible when you adopt the correct mindset.
That's the point.
about as legitimate and groundbreaking as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORwGYV1TACo 
soon the drugs will be so efficient, the WR will be 20mins 
Angoose sorry, no.
There is nothing significant about either 2h or 4mins, it’s either the fastest time ever or it isn’t.
To go to such lengths to contrive a time quicker than 2h for the sake of it is daftness personified.
Equalled by the statement he made after it about no limits.
Ofc there are limits.
What amuses me most about it though is how pointless it is. His s hit still stinks and he will be dead within 40 years and somebody will perhaps have bettered it for reasons unknown.
There is nothing significant about either 2h or 4mins, it’s either the fastest time ever or it isn’t.
To go to such lengths to contrive a time quicker than 2h for the sake of it is daftness personified.
Equalled by the statement he made after it about no limits.
Ofc there are limits.
What amuses me most about it though is how pointless it is. His s hit still stinks and he will be dead within 40 years and somebody will perhaps have bettered it for reasons unknown.
Oct 12, 2019 -- 11:21AM, Angoose wrote:
What was so significant about 4 minutes for Roger Bannister?Forget running a mile or a marathon, the point that was being made is that there are no limits to human achievement.What may be though impossible can be made possible when you adopt the correct mindset.That's the point.
Spot on,
.
The collective development of the mind superseded that of human endurance to such an extent such ability as running a marathon under 2hours becomes nothing more than a novelty.
There's always some armchair buffoon who's raison d'etre is to pi$$ on everyones parade while achieving fckall themselves.
Erythropoietinand 100% nailed on and probably some corticosteroids in operation here.
Don't know if anyone noticed but he hardly looked tired and his wind wasn't under the sort of pressure you'd expect there was no hurt.
Good fairy story and money maker though all the same.
Don't know if anyone noticed but he hardly looked tired and his wind wasn't under the sort of pressure you'd expect there was no hurt.
Good fairy story and money maker though all the same.
There’s also always some sentimental fool who should have learned by their age.
I met him once Jolly, the man was a bundle of nerves I thought he was going to explode/implode. 
And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Yes!
Why?
Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave and we looked over the hill and we saw fire and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the West and we took to the sky. The history of man is a timeline of exploration and this is what's next.
Yes!
Why?
Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave and we looked over the hill and we saw fire and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the West and we took to the sky. The history of man is a timeline of exploration and this is what's next.
“We choose to go to the Moon! ...We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win ...”
did anybody finish second?
impressive to run 26.2 miles in under 2 hours, but lets see it in a race please.
its like these land speed records on the salt flats, great technical stuff, but
try it around m25 at 8.30am ....
impressive to run 26.2 miles in under 2 hours, but lets see it in a race please.
its like these land speed records on the salt flats, great technical stuff, but
try it around m25 at 8.30am ....
Poppydog, again that sentimentality might well suit for the actions that propel ingenuity, but the only thing that comes from ‘beating’ arbitrary timings (somewhat artificially) will be heart attacks by all those pushing themselves to the limits (that they think don’t exist)
There is an irony, that exploration and discovery was used to justify an action that hasn’t been required for hundreds of years if not longer.
The days of a runner needing to quickly take a message of war over 26 miles is gone.
The days of a runner needing to quickly take a message of war over 26 miles is gone.
Will he be back next year to try and get 1h 59min and 39 sec?
Surely that would continue the argument of 'pushing boundries', if it wasn't for the daftness of humans to think there was something significant of exactly 2 hours
Surely that would continue the argument of 'pushing boundries', if it wasn't for the daftness of humans to think there was something significant of exactly 2 hours
In fact, does this guy have endorsements? Will there be some branded running shoes or tracksuits in the offing I wonder?
Worn by those daft enough to have the hook in their mouths.
Worn by those daft enough to have the hook in their mouths.
hahaha
I've just gone to look, as I was cynically curious....
The answer is Nike if you were wondering
I've just gone to look, as I was cynically curious....
The answer is Nike if you were wondering
.
https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a23281796/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-world-record-gear/
I just saw his last effort, you too can have nike socks that will perhaps or probs not make any difference
Just to finish on this, the Kennedy quote about the moon where NASA was funded wasn't a private sector love in and other than 'selling' America in the cold war race they didnt have much else to push
If we look at the comparison today elon musk shoots his own rocket into space and......straps a tesla car to its front
Food for thought
https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a23281796/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-world-record-gear/
I just saw his last effort, you too can have nike socks that will perhaps or probs not make any difference
Just to finish on this, the Kennedy quote about the moon where NASA was funded wasn't a private sector love in and other than 'selling' America in the cold war race they didnt have much else to push
If we look at the comparison today elon musk shoots his own rocket into space and......straps a tesla car to its front
Food for thought
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There's always some armchair buffoon who's raison d'etre is to pi$$ on everyones parade while achieving fckall themselves
At least my pee is clear of any anabolic enhancement
There's always some armchair buffoon who's raison d'etre is to pi$$ on everyones parade while achieving fckall themselves
At least my pee is clear of any anabolic enhancement
this fella must have been good in his prime looks between 50 and 60 years old
No limit to human achievement?
So will we see a 1 hour marathon?
Er, no.
So maybe there is a limit.
But repeated 17 second 100 metres is totally incredible.
How these guys do it is amazing.
Tbh a marathon under 3 hours is pretty special.
So will we see a 1 hour marathon?
Er, no.
So maybe there is a limit.
But repeated 17 second 100 metres is totally incredible.
How these guys do it is amazing.
Tbh a marathon under 3 hours is pretty special.
How many chit chatters could run a mile in less than 5 minutes?
Not many, and I reckon you could go further and reduce that number to none.
How many could run 26 consecutive 5 minute miles?
Not many, and I reckon you could go further and reduce that number to none.
How many could run 26 consecutive 5 minute miles?
I can't do a head spin like those 80's break dancers either
Nor do I need to
Same applies.
Nor do I need to
Same applies.
Angoose, that’s all very well but could this Kipchoge fellow work out the intricacies of a race like the Ayr Gold Cup or make a few bob betting in play on tennis. I think not.
Oct 12, 2019 -- 8:09PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:
| Blogger: boxingthefox's blogThere's always some armchair buffoon who's raison d'etre is to pi$$ on everyones parade while achieving fckall themselvesAt least my pee is clear of any anabolic enhancement
Yeah, right. We only have your word for that, prove it!.
The same curmudgeon attitude that scoffed at the invention of the wheel pervades this thread.
Any advancement (as long as it's ethical) is brilliant. We love round numbers mainly because we have 10 toes and fingers. So anything divisible by 10 becomes significant. Sub 2 minutes is astonishing.
Brailsford, the king of 'incremental gains' to the fore I see.
Any advancement (as long as it's ethical) is brilliant. We love round numbers mainly because we have 10 toes and fingers. So anything divisible by 10 becomes significant. Sub 2 minutes is astonishing.
Brailsford, the king of 'incremental gains' to the fore I see.
I,m sure someone will come along do away without pacemakers use puk,puk motor bike like in cycling to pace him and find a faster piece of synthetic track for example and beat this record, but so what
You have to giggle at comparing this to the invention of the wheel.
For a kick off the wheel was whats known as a GPT (General Purpose Technology) that effects every branch of development.
This is a guy who artificially ran a little bit more quickly over a distance hardly anyone even bothers to try such is it's impracticality and pointlessness.
As for the notion of round numbers signifying anything, I refer you to the OCD mentality that is a defect, not something to applaud.
For a kick off the wheel was whats known as a GPT (General Purpose Technology) that effects every branch of development.
This is a guy who artificially ran a little bit more quickly over a distance hardly anyone even bothers to try such is it's impracticality and pointlessness.
As for the notion of round numbers signifying anything, I refer you to the OCD mentality that is a defect, not something to applaud.
dusty, it's Sunday, give yourelf a day off ffs, lighten up you might actually enjoy it. In the 'great scheme of things' there are far more seriously iportant things to get worked up about than this.imho.
Im not getting worked up
I happen to laugh every day
Its just the things I laugh at others tend to think inappropriate
But then the majority of humans are illogical so f uck em
I happen to laugh every day
Its just the things I laugh at others tend to think inappropriate
But then the majority of humans are illogical so f uck em
once the lazers were projected on to the road I don't really understand the roll of the pacemakers he was only a few yards behind at any one point,he could have just ran within projected lights without the pacemakers
Good point, perhaps it was having human company that helped?, anyway someone moaned that he would make a few quid selling/endorsing merchandise, has this ever happened nefore!. Even the Granny sh@gging footballer had no shame in doing likewise.
I was actually thinking if the media had got it wrong and the lazers were only a guide for tv viewers and wernt actually visible to the runners
The reference to the wheel is remind us how far we've come.
To treat a WR as meaningless is to denigrate other advancements. Why are you on the internet if you don't support invention, speed and skill?
The same drive that made this lad break 2 hours is no different to the drive that breaks down any barrier.
To treat a WR as meaningless is to denigrate other advancements. Why are you on the internet if you don't support invention, speed and skill?
The same drive that made this lad break 2 hours is no different to the drive that breaks down any barrier.
Any advancement (as long as it's ethical) is brilliant. We love round numbers mainly because we have 10 toes and fingers
So if someone is born with 12 fingers and 12 toes, do we celebrate that as some sort of advancement in evolution?
No, society deems him a freak, tells him/her to adapt to the social norms by persuading him/her into chopping his/hers mutant fingers off
So if someone is born with 12 fingers and 12 toes, do we celebrate that as some sort of advancement in evolution?
No, society deems him a freak, tells him/her to adapt to the social norms by persuading him/her into chopping his/hers mutant fingers off
TBB, we all hate the 'overound' but we don't have to let it pollute every waking second, do we?.
pace runners created a blocking force against the air by formation to make it easier for
record breaker, may even have created a very slight forward draught
to help him
technology, innit
record breaker, may even have created a very slight forward draught
to help him
technology, innit
dustybin
13 Oct 19 11:49
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You have to giggle at comparing this to the invention of the wheel.
For a kick off the wheel was whats known as a GPT (General Purpose Technology) that effects every branch of development.
This is a guy who artificially ran a little bit more quickly over a distance hardly anyone even bothers to try such is it's impracticality and pointlessness.
As for the notion of round numbers signifying anything, I refer you to the OCD mentality that is a defect, not something to applaud.
Excellent logic, Dusty. I would love to hear your opinion of groups of men running around a field trying to kick a ball between three sticks arranged to form an upright rectangle with a line on the ground and the tribal behaviour of their followers.
its not a world record injera, its simply a best time.
you could find a downhill course and run faster
no idea why they wanted this course so flat ?
you could find a downhill course and run faster
no idea why they wanted this course so flat ?
Foinavon I love CC threads like this, so many great different opinions.
I love CC threads like this, so many great different opinions.
Tbf I think any WR should be chalked off UNLESS it's blowing a hooley and there's XR protestors doing yoga all along the route.
Since the proficiency of those men affects their bank balances and my Betfair account it is an issue of some importance foxy.
That equates to 4:33 per mile over 26.2 miles.......Take a bow that man !
injera do you think theXR merchants hold in their farts so as to not pollute the atmosphere.. 
Oct 13, 2019 -- 1:00PM, Foinavon wrote:
Since the proficiency of those men affects their bank balances and my Betfair account it is an issue of some importance foxy.
Very good point, message to self; MUST DO BETT-OR.
Injera
Its not invention or inginuity....it's 1 man running a fraction faster under contrived conditions....for himself.
Dont package this as some sort of inspiration, it's utterly useless.
Foinavon
Excellent logic, Dusty. I would love to hear your opinion of groups of men running around a field trying to kick a ball between three sticks arranged to form an upright rectangle with a line on the ground and the tribal behaviour of their followers.
It's pretty daft, other than it being a medium to gamble on and employs a lot of people. Also it gives men across the land an avenue to escape the over baring partner.
There is the added issue with football that the game shows all the ill's of capitalism, where the small man pays for those who extract far more than they merit 'at the top' where ability isn't relative to remuneration (if a top pro takes 400k a week he can not possibly be 400 times better at kicking a ball than one being paid 1000 a week)
Its not invention or inginuity....it's 1 man running a fraction faster under contrived conditions....for himself.
Dont package this as some sort of inspiration, it's utterly useless.
Foinavon
Excellent logic, Dusty. I would love to hear your opinion of groups of men running around a field trying to kick a ball between three sticks arranged to form an upright rectangle with a line on the ground and the tribal behaviour of their followers.
It's pretty daft, other than it being a medium to gamble on and employs a lot of people. Also it gives men across the land an avenue to escape the over baring partner.
There is the added issue with football that the game shows all the ill's of capitalism, where the small man pays for those who extract far more than they merit 'at the top' where ability isn't relative to remuneration (if a top pro takes 400k a week he can not possibly be 400 times better at kicking a ball than one being paid 1000 a week)
Just wanted to add
For all those people seeing this as inspirational, with cosy western lives of laid back consumerism and excess
Look at who are now the long distance contenders: rake thin black Africans that look to have lived in deprivation.
For all those people seeing this as inspirational, with cosy western lives of laid back consumerism and excess
Look at who are now the long distance contenders: rake thin black Africans that look to have lived in deprivation.
Oh dear me.
The Economist have done a piece on this event. It turns out firstly the sheltering of the wind by the runners is estimated to have contributed 3% advantage and negates any improvement in his time.....but there’s worse
He was wearing the Nike Vapor-Fly shoes that contain carbon springs.
Cough splutter whhhaaaaa?
No limits haha
Apparently the shoe is as controversial as the speedo swimming suits and could be banned.
Looks a lot to me like an advertising campaign for Nike
The Economist have done a piece on this event. It turns out firstly the sheltering of the wind by the runners is estimated to have contributed 3% advantage and negates any improvement in his time.....but there’s worse
He was wearing the Nike Vapor-Fly shoes that contain carbon springs.
Cough splutter whhhaaaaa?
No limits haha
Apparently the shoe is as controversial as the speedo swimming suits and could be banned.
Looks a lot to me like an advertising campaign for Nike
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