Four Treated After Stabbing At Manchester Shopping Centre

He was caught after been tasered

Counter-terror police are investigating after five people were stabbed at a shopping centre in central Manchester.

A man in his 40s has been arrested on suspicion of serious assault, Greater Manchester Police have said.

North West Ambulance Service said they were called out in relation to the stabbings, but they did not confirm the nature of the injuries.

Greater Manchester Police have confirmed they are at the scene of the incident at the Arndale, which is in the city centre.

The force said in a statement: Early enquiries, suggest that several people have been stabbed.

"A man in his 40s has been arrested on suspicion of serious assault. He has been taken to custody for questioning.

Footage from the scene appeared to show an officer pointing a Taser gun at a man lying on the ground.

Other social media content showed police officers running through the centre and several emergency services vehicles parked outside.

A shop worker, who gave his name only as Jordan, 23, described a man "running around with a knife lunging at multiple people, one of which came into my store visibly shaken with a small graze.

"Soon after, security staff told all retail staff to close their doors and move the public to the back of the stores."

Jordan, who has only been working at the centre for a few months, said the attack took place on the ground floor.

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charged with terrorism, id rather think another nutter out in the community

Possibly two

Could be a spice related incident. There were several around the place off their nuts the last time I visited Mcr.

Seems to be 4 woman victims
Perhaps hes a misgonist terror
Attacker

very few posts on this thread so I'm guessing it wasn't a non-white person

Very few post because it's so common.

Alan’s snack bar crew 100%

Anyone want to open a book on number of posts between this thread and the one of a far right terrorist who murdered two people?

I'm gonna bet some people are only interested in terrorism when a certain profile of person does it and the number and type of posts on this thread in the next few hours will support that view.

Mature Engineering Student Drop Out  , Supported Citeh  since he was 39 .

Apologists always jump straight to whataboutery hoping you won't notice they're comparing the equivalent of lightning strike deaths with road traffic accident fatalities

Total waste of time to put knife man on trial;should be strung up this evening.
I've emailed Boris this evening to ask him once he's resolved Brexit to turn his attention to knife crime and to give Priti the authority to let the police of the leash. Not holding my breath but the next Government might ignore the snowflakes and liberals and return to calling a spade a spade.

Not been Much action for a While Lot of the Chaps hang around Schools etc , Keeps them occupied .

ImSoLuckyLucky! 11 Oct 19 18:05 Joined: 31 Dec 04 | Topic/replies: 7,785 | Blogger: ImSoLuckyLucky!'s blog
Seems to be 4 woman victims
Perhaps he's.  a misogynist terror
Attacker .                                           Is This a poor attempt at humour ?   Bad craic m8 ,Paris three woman victims in police HQ as well ,strangely the feminists  have little to say on Islam ,in fact know a few that defend it .Strange old world .

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/faces-19-paedos-per...

Only a demented MORON would invite a fox into the Henhouse. welcome to the UK.

Latest, he has mental problems!, don't they all,

Did angoose just try to deflect the 1500(under estimate) girls that were raped in northern cities.

suspect detained under mental health act.

WHITE RAPISTS Full coverage available ....

Scary potatoes

An awful lot of mentally ill people roaming the streets, seems to be some sort of government failure going on.

An incident as awful as this just makes one or two newspaper front pages.

Disappeared altogether by now from the news sites.

How times have changed.

slowly the wedge gets shoved in further

20,000 in 300 constituencies and we are there

20,000 in 300 constituencies and we are there

But then the British population will start to panic and we all know what happend in Germany in 20/30s when the Germans started to panic when they thought they were losing their country

No mention of his race from the Police. I wonder why?

Any reports of Roaring ??

macarony - by then it will be too late - those constituent representatives will be passing their new laws.

One word I learnt from the debate from the person opposing johnson at the next election was 'demographic shift'

a wonderful term to describe it -   hides what it really means but sounds quite normal

One strange thing, obv muslim face, but white skin on leg?!?!?!

you would be surprised how quickly things can change Germany went from a very pro Jewish country right up to the 1920s but by the mid 20s things changed and very quickly. never underestimate someone fighting on their own back yard

but if they have the law making institution in their hands they just pass the laws they want

Oct 12, 2019 -- 6:50PM, doridoru wrote:

One strange thing, obv muslim face, but white skin on leg?!?!?!

lol

Demographic shift summary...


White on Brown/Black = Genocide

Brown/Black on White = Diversity

i believe you meant to say 'obv. non-muslim leg?!?!?!'

I like Manchester - recently returned after my first time there. Great place for science and art.

EvgenyKissin • October 12, 2019 7:13 PM BST
I like Manchester - recently returned after my first time there. Great place for science and art.

The Etihaad ?

"Serious assault"? Shouldn't that be attempted murder?

Not sure how these are defined but stabbing would count as an assault and not attempted murder I think.

Depends on the location of the wound I suppose.

Not really. With attempted murder you have to prove intent to kill and with serious assault you have to prove intent to cause serious bodily harm. But I don't know what the exact definitions are. Much easier for the prosecution to charge a guy like this with serious assault rather than attempted murder. They want to make their own lives easier.

They want to make their own lives easier.
And I don't mean that in a negative way.

Charges get updated as the plod get more evidence don't they? If there's CCTV, or witness statements of him shouting that he's trying to kill or indeed if he freely states that was what he wanted to do.

Assault is simply the most fitting given the evidence at the start and is enough to hold him in custody and question him further.

detraveller, you are a great contributer to this fotum. Your attention to detail is unrivalled, but I think this  displays a 'cant see the wood' for the trees' etical morality which is misuuderstood. Just a thought.

I only understood the first sentence boxing. Thanks.

Care to explain the second part?(I have a feeling its not good for me)

he meant no harm is what you are trying to say traveller/porky

aah, moysey. Ever the idiot.

No. That is not what I said. I don't know what he meant to do. No one knows, quite possibly not even him(temporary insanity). All we know is he stabbed people with a knife.

The man has been arrested on 'suspicion of serious assault'. They then changed it to terror. Then they realized they didn't have any evidence and changed it to arrest under mental health act, whatever that is.

At some point he will be charged. If they can prove he intended to kill, he will be charged with attempted murder. Otherwise, probably just assault. The prosecution charges people everyday and they won't charge someone with a crime that they will need to work their asses off to prove. Since he has been arrested under the mental health act, he probably will be out pleading some mental issues and everyone here will do the usual routine, not knowing he beat them because that's how their law is.

If you were pushed down the stairs by a person in a red jacket, you can get up and stab everyone in the mall wearing a red jacket. Then plead guilty to assault after provocation. If you have a good reason for having a knife with you, you'll get a couple of months and be out.

Now this is when you play nice and plead guilty. You can easily let them charge you with common assault and make them prove it. They won't be able to do it because every time you saw someone in a red jacket all you did was stab them in self defense, as you had already been attacked by a guy in a red jacket.

So even though the news says you stabbed 10 people in a mall, you'll get away with it and the public will whine about how he got out because he's a chap of the book or similar stuff.

People here often compare cases like these but never read the detailed verdict. I remember Tommy Robinson's contempt of court. People on here were on about how he didn't really affect the case as his act was done after the verdict was announced. The judge in his detailed verdict said exactly the same thing! he didn't affect the case but the intent was there. And that was all they needed to prove(Just like in assault, you don't have to prove bodily harm, but the 'intent to cause it')

Similarly the law treats crimes motivated by racial elements differently. The maximum punishment for common assault is 6 months. If you can prove it was motivated by racial factors, it goes up to 2 years. Im no legal expert but its factors like these that send a guy throwing bacon at a mosque to jail while a muslim guy stabbing a dozen people gets a slap on the wrist. Its how the law works.

There was a case of a young kid touching a girl's arm who has now been convicted of sexual assault.

If you remember that news, the girl was on about how he would have touched her breasts had she not moved and how the incident affected her psychologically, so much that she couldn't sit her mock exams, performed poorly in her exams and all that affected her her application to Oxford. They were proving that the 'intention' of a sexual assault was there(even though it never actually happened) AND that the assault affected her psychologically, by mentioning her exams and poor perfornace.

The boy's defense talked about he is socially awkward, how he signed up on social media to make friends and how he googled how to make friends. They did this because they wanted to prove his 'intentions' of going up to the girl.

What you saw in the news was 'A 19-year old who google how to make a friend convicted of sexual assault despite only touching the arm'

The law sees things differently.

Tomorrow we start at 11am. Goonight.

Yet another knife weilding thug who has 'mental health' issues.

Haven't heard ANY debates questioning why these ill people are allowed to walk our streets. Maybe because they know exactly what they're doing???

Well it's after 11am so we can resume the thread.

Science and Industry Museum was great and I like Lowry paintings.

Apologies for being late. Yes we can resume. Where were we?

if the prosecution these days are trying to prosecute on the intention to do something, god help us. That  kid touching the arm incident is a disgrace. I was thinking , if i wanted to get the attention of a person in say the street, and she / him was in front of me etc, i could shout excuse me, hello, hi, but the person mightnt know im trying to get their  attention, then i would probably put my hand on her shoulders. in that case there is no way a jury in crown court could  have convicted him, i doubt a proper judge would even let it go so far.

Wasn't it always like that? Its the intention that has to be proved.

How do you distinguish between a proper judge and an improper judge

ironed uniform, nails cut, proper haircut.

With multiple incidents of multiple stabbings by multiple non-whites it's frankly no surprise that more than 50% of the population are racists

Of you banged your head on the floor five times a day ,you might get mentally ill.

traveller and porky don't understand that the more you let in the more you will get of this type of behaviour
it is cultural - they need to know this

but if you mention it you are an idiot  - strange how anti brexit and apologists sing from the same hymn sheet - yah nose  - with the added insults -

Oct 13, 2019 -- 6:46PM, moisok wrote:

traveller and porky don't understand that the more you let in the more you will get of this type of behaviourit is cultural - they need to know this

I do understand that. Please point out the part that made you think I didn't understand.

Do you understand how the law works? Did you know breaking the skin layer counts as a 'wound' but rupturing a blood cell doesn't? That's how the law works. It defines everything and lays things out very clearly. But all people like you do is watch the media and then complain because it doesn't make sense to you, because you are clueless about how courts work.

Note that in this post and the previous posts I have only talked from the legal perspective. I have NOT said there is or is not a cultural problem. You made it up because that's all your brain sees in my posts.

Also notice that this guy was arrested under the mental health act. That is British law, not sharia law. And isn't derived from any cultural source either.

there has been such a large increase in this sort of behaviour  whilst the apologists like detraveller and porky try to deflect the seriousness and origination of the behaviour comes from

anyone see the interview on tv with the gang member from a london gang telling how the incursion of an immigrant group to their area came tooled up and they had to react!!!!   Started a whole new ball game apparently. Particularly the type of weapons!!

Oct 12, 2019 -- 8:16PM, Knight Commander wrote:

"Serious assault"? Shouldn't that be attempted murder?

@moisok

This was the post I responded to. The whole point was, the prosecution has to prove that the person stabbing had the intention of harming his victims. I named a few scenarios where a person could stab someone and still get away with it. All those scenarios are perfectly legal under British law. I apologize if that came across as if I was trying to defend the guy who stabbed those people. I wasn't.

This what porky said:
Charges get updated as the plod get more evidence don't they? If there's CCTV, or witness statements of him shouting that he's trying to kill or indeed if he freely states that was what he wanted to do.

Assault is simply the most fitting given the evidence at the start and is enough to hold him in custody and question him further.

He was correct. The charges got updated along the way. He was arrested for assault, rearrested on terror charges, then rearrested under the mental health act.

You have not said where he or I got things wrong.

But for some reason both of us are apologists, even though all we were doing was answer the question I have quoted above, which had a legal nature.

Do you get it now?

yes that has rattled a cage or two -  but the fact is there are several on here who want to deflect questions about cause.

A growth in one thing has led to problems with violence.

I rest my case.

Please quote the part of my post that make me a muslim apologist.

Otherwise shut up.

Kind Regards.

Do you frequent Alans Snackbar?

hell a lot of difference between mag judge and crown court judge

I love you traveller  - you always like to deflect when our friends appear.  crudely  a  'LOOK OVER THERE'  ploy   I know what your game is and you think you are very clever.

Has he been identified yet?

Loudon said she came out of work at 10.30am and encountered a black man shouting racial slurs including the N-word and being hostile towards an Arndale worker, who was also black.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/11/multiple-stabbings-reported-near-arndale-centre-in-manchester

It wouldn't surprise me if he's had the Flue jab and that's what's made him like that
Most of those at My AA meeting gave me a wide berth when they saw how i
was acting after my flue jab

Theve seen everything at these meetings .but they said theve never seen anyone with every piece of clothing on them inside out and their shoes on the wrong feet

I once limped into a cafe before work thinking I must have a bad knee, and I looked down and saw I had two different shoes on 

Oct 16, 2019 -- 3:57PM, moisok wrote:

I love you traveller

It was 3 days ago that I asked you to point out the part of my posts which made me a muslim apologist. You chickened and after 3 days come back with the same allegation?

It's a good job I stopped for brekkie, the first customer would have probably shat herself on seeing that.

I know you were posting on other threads throughout the three days.

Just for your info moisok, a poster asked why the guy was charged with assault instead of attempted murder. I explained why it was assault and not attempted murder. You took it to mean that I was defending the guy's intentions when the discussion was purely about the legal terms assault and attempted murder.

I can understand your IQ may not be high enough to understand these legal terms. Hence I let it go and didn't press you to prove your allegation(you had clearly chickened out).

So I give you another chance. Unless you were mistaken about the legal terms, which post made you think I was defending the guy who stabbed those people?

Have some decency and point it out. I asked three days ago.

sich selbst überwinden

I apologise traveller.
It must be so hard to be chained in the thrall of your god, the rich boy lansman, as you spout his message from your garret in middle germany.  Good luck and best wishes.

I thought so too moisok. The next time you catch me defending muslims, please just stop me there. Its not good manners to throw wild accusations around and then disappear.

ps  you are always trying to defend them.  Sorry couldn't resist it.

remember

20,000 - 300 constituencies and they are there. All helped by your mummysmentum Lord and his minions.

glad to have helped

I do not disappear.   I am looking down and can see I am still here.  I think!!!

by dint of supporting what you do  then you ARE defending them - it is the movement you support that defends them

hope this is clear

plenty of candidates waiting to step in

No. I don't support any movement. I just refuse to whine about it like the rest of you. I saw it with my own eyes and I know exactly where we will be in a decade or two. I can either isolate myself and live my life. Or whine about it like you do. I chose not to whine. That doesn't mean I approve of it.

You've been whining about it since 2016. What good has that brought you?

And I am still waiting for you to show one post that makes you think I defend muslims.

DT

moisok makes lfc look like an intellectual. You are wasting your time in trying to have a balanced conversation.

Could we get back on topic please

as a well known liar whispering that is a bit rich from you  - another one of the defenders

Has he been named yet? Media blackout.

I no my Iq isn't high enough for traveller - what an arrogant sh!t - but then all these lansman followers are like it

traveller nose I am on to his game -for months he  spouts all the right on  mummysmentum philosophy  (if you can call it that) then denies it  ho ho