BORIS JUST SURRENDERED

What do the nutjobs do now?

You tell us, I've got you down as nutjob.

Yeah go on TELL us.

10 years on!

What do you expect

Trump and Brexit are going to be kicked and kicked and kicked further and further down the road

Its their little theatre bless em, a sad, pathetic, boring bunch of scumbags

Well, well, well.... and he said "No ifs, No buts" and he also said he would "rather be dead in a ditch" rather than ask for an extension. I have another idea, how about lying down in front of a big red bus !!! Same old thing with Boris, blah, blah, blah....

"BORIS JUST SURRENDERED"

No, the real surrender was 3 years ago !

You should know by now not to listen to these facking idiots on the TV

Say one thing and do another

That's the end of Bozo now then, another one to add to the list

an extension in the national interest.has this ever been said before?

"national interest"

Yes because we need another 6 months of this boredom, its for our own good

Calm down.  Didn't the courts say he has to ask for an extension?  Asking doesn't mean getting.  All 27 member states have to unanimously agree.  All you need is a secret agreement with a Eurosceptic country, such as Hungary or Italy, to veto the extension and voila- Boris has asked for an extension as per legal requirement but oh no!  The EU has refused! 

Two things

You have to see all of the present political posturing through the prism of bolstering positions ahead of a General Election.

It's pretty clear how that will be fought. The Tories as the party of 'the people' vs. an intransgent Parliament who know what they DON'T want but haven't a scooby what they do, other than extending their time in office to the limit of the FTPA it would appear.

This then is up to and including forcing the noble, principled, BoJo to go against his word and yet again, frustrate 'getting Brexit done'.

Not saying I agree, but that's the theatre at play here.

Also, the Benn Law was concocted in haste and passed with very little scrutiny. It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest if Government lawyers have been pouring over it since it hit the statute books, looking for ways to walk around the actual legalities of what it might say, whilst appearing to comply with the headline imperative.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXNhL4J_S00

Very shrewd move from the Bozz

What makes it even better is that the usual mugs have fallen for it

Surrender? 

If there is one adjective you shouldn't apply to Bozo it's shrewd.

then as uk companies tank walk back on nov 1st to agree sorry beg for a fta after plunging everyone into crisis ,sounds like a plan ,a right shoitey one

Sounds brilliant to me 1TP

I think we'd be just fine on our own though, it'll be them running to us

I am not sure the EU will give us an extension, they may say we must decide to stay or leave on 31 Oct.

Possibly with no deal, which is what Boris wants.

We shall see???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

you've got love the everunfolding stupidity of brexiteers I cant keep up

so for 3 years they've been telling us these great deal makers in the erg that no deal on the table will bring the eu begging,now its off the table ,their saying they,ll kick us out anyway,, priceless,

The Surrender monkey finally admits to eating cheese and garlic?

so to use the Johnson/francois war metaphors
the revolver that erg wanted  on the table for 3 years to scare EU into a deal,when Johnson had to surrender and take it off the table,they pulled one out of their pocket and shot themselves anyway

The sad thing is in a few months you'll all see how obvious this was from the get go.

The only way he could get his treasured PM gig was promising to leave. He didn't have any idea how and in honesty he had no intent either unless something fell into his lap.


But the plan all along was to come up with a deal that'll never be accepted by the EU, promise to leave under no deal before being stopped by parliament and then going to an election trying to fool the brexit-supporting public that it's not his fault it didn't happen but he's on their side and will definitely - definitely - deliver brexit next time.

How can it be his fault ? It’s the silly unelectable  fantasists that wont honour a lawful referendum and go running to the courts to block the people’s will that are costing this country and the more it costs the happier they will be but soon the time will come and the hammer will fall ,the die is cast .

Johnson may be obliged to ask for an extension but is he obliged to accept it?

for Johnson personally he said he,d never ask for onr die in a ditch,nothing to do with the aftermath,
all this predicted by gove,hunt,stewart

We're leaving on a no deal, dont know if we're be back again ..oh Jean-Claude, its great to go.

Boris stringing the mugs along. Come the day we will be out.

the dummies think that what was produced in Edinburgh today was proof that he's bottled it Does it not even occur to them that he knew exactly what response it would get from the oh so smart MSM? Also one of the legal instigators of this action; & he's been planning this for weeks, is absolutely befuddled with Bozo

Joanna Cherry and Jo Maugham argue Boris Johnson cannot be trusted on Brexit

The Two Ronnies

Should put that pic in the smug coonts fred, Case.

that's the befuddled one

Jo Maugham QC

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There is, so far as I can see, still one, and only one, way through for the Government to 31 October. If they can cause an r27 to veto the extension the statements to the court are fine and the PM gets to deliver his promise.

This will be a first if he has.  Usually the other lot do all the surrendering

BJ can send a Million letters Means F.A if he Ignores the Replies

No guarantee EU will extend anyway

oh they will; if they get the chance that is

There's something touching (if massively deluded) in hoping in the face of all available information that your chosen heroic politicians will do what you want them to do.

I predict that porkie will disappear with all his lefty friends on the 31st.

i don't think even Bozo could arrange what i want to do to Esther Mc

Steve Baker is one to watch

I'm predicting I'll be back here in November and aka will be running away just as quickly and cowardly as before, the big jessie.

i'll hold your coat Mr Bula

Porkie yer typical lefty numpty.
He believes in Jeremy like a kid believes in Santa.
To use his words I find that quite touching.

Was on my travels earlier today Bap and visited this great pub.

'kin ell!!!


"I believe in Jeremy" apparently





Someone really hasn't been paying attention. It's a wonder this island's still afloat with this much stupidity on it.

Extension will be granted but with a caveat.

That caveat will be that a referendum be held.
Parliament will then vote to accept the extension on those terms.

Boris will cry.
Nigel will laugh.

Forum will erupt.

Bring it on!

Reading angoose as Roy Orbison started singing In Dreams on utube. How spooky is that?

Listening to Nothing Really Ends by dEUS. I think I'll go to the grave proclaiming this as a lost classic and one of the most under-rated songs of my life. If it had been a Leonard Cohen song covered by them the world would be raving about it.


Three Little Birds now. "Don't worry"

Right I'm off but never forget

That makes all the difference

Jesus, it's pathetic sometimes.

If that happens Angoose expect some massive fireworks

The fireworks will be on November 5.

The EU will not give an extension for no purpose, that purpose would need to be a general election or a referendum, they’ll go for the referendum, rationalising that a general election could return a hung parliament.

Don't think the EU would demand that personally. Think they will demand something that sees the current parliamentary impasse unblocked but I think they know they can only ask so much and can't tell us what to do per se.



They will definitely pass it imo. All this talk of tapping up fascist friends overseas is overblown. The EU will be in their other ear telling them what they'll lose if they don't toe the line and it'll be no offers.


I think the EU are actually quite happy for us to leave now. If we remain then you know every election then one of the major parties will probably be bringing this up and promising another chance to leave and they can just do without the hassle.

They just want a deal and smooth exit. No deal is nothing more than misguided jingoistic nonsense confected by posh boys with no skin in the game. If we come up with a deal that ensures the EU is kept intact and Britain is a close trading partner then they'll jump at it I reckon.

Leo Varadkar gave a big hint at this possible course of action today.
We don’t have long to wait to find out.

Surprised that the government haven’t looked to arrange a parliamentary vote on their latest proposal.
It would likely pass.

The planned prorogation helps the remain cause in this regard.

hi guys,i was thinking,if a general election is called ,its possible that the UK people may turn on their MP'S and dump them all out because of the way brexit was handled .now i am sure every MP knows this is possible ,so my question is,why would they(all of them)agree to a general election when the chances are that they could all lose their jobs,perhaps the talk of a general election is just more waffling

Because it's all just so much more than a simplistic "general election will wash them all away".


What do you think labour's struggles over the last few years have been or indeed Boris's stance now. It's all very calculated spending obscene sums on political scientists looking at every constituency and making a decision on what your stance would have on winning or retaining that seat.

The tories threat has mostly been from Nige, hence why the angle is aimed at neutering the pro-brexit vote.

Labour's problem is from remainers deserting to vote for the Lib Dems, therefore they are having to come up with an almost remain manifesto.

no 10 say the eu no the uk escape route and the public will shortly, maybe it is the veto route with a small country like hungary who might also want out,does the EU work for hungary, or it could be the uk telling the EU they,ll cause mayhem from the inside

PRIME MINISTER Boris Johnson was in the same building as a Hungarian Minister and Hungarian ambassador when he claimed to be holding an “emergency” Cabinet meeting on Friday morning.

Footage has emerged of Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto and Ambassador Kristof Szalay-Bobrovniczk leaving the Cabinet Office on Friday morning. The video was reportedly taken at the same time as Boris Johnson held an “emergency” Cabinet meeting. The footage has since sparked speculation of Hungary vetoing a Brexit extension request.

The territory of modern Hungary was for centuries inhabited by a succession of peoples, including Celts, Romans, Germanic tribes, Huns, West Slavs and the Avars. The foundations of the Hungarian state were established in the late ninth century CE by the Hungarian grand prince Árpád following the conquest of the Carpathian Basin.

Oct 5, 2019 -- 5:38AM, 1st time poster wrote:

no 10 say the eu no the uk escape route and the public will shortly, maybe it is the veto route with a small country like hungary who might also want out,does the EU work for hungary, or it could be the uk telling the EU they,ll cause mayhem from the inside

the EU would happily throw Hungary out of the EU if they could.

What do you base that comment on?

a veto will cause crash out and a no deal,then the real problems start ,apart from all the chaos,you will have Scotland claiming independence and wanting to rejoin and them you have the same problem in 2 years time of another border to separating Scotland and England .

Oct 5, 2019 -- 10:42AM, Angoose wrote:

What do you base that comment on?

Their contempt for the rule of law etc.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/13/17823488/hungary-democracy-authoritarianism-trump

Thanks for the link, a quite disturbing read.
An alternative view could be that control and reform can better be promoted by the EU from within.

I don't want seem a bit thick and pour cold water on the hungary veto rumours.but if erg have reservations about the johnsons deal and have been told we,ll leave anyway,or told about hungary why would they vote for a deal they've got problems with,they sit on their hands get no deal,kill Brexit party and save 39 billion to boot according to erg,now the erg have proved themselves as thick as mince for years,but if they've been told ,heard about hungary rumours they,d be stark raving mad to vote for a deal their not completely happy with

So many twists in the plot.

we have fought them many times so why do they still want us?

I can't see why the EU would want rid of Hungary when they are spending a fortune on grooming good old Albania, it's all about territory at the end of the day.

Not quite sure the move east by the fourth reich went that well

they have history of doing this

but you have 'failures' in imperial ambition  who now join together

napoleon and hitler - a wonderful combination

but they couldn't beat us  (or the russians) ho ho

Ah mobo reminiscing about the war, what a sad cae

The footage has since sparked speculation of Hungary vetoing a Brexit extension request.


As I said, no need to worry.  People see Boris' public persona and think he's a fool but he's actually the most intelligent PM we've had for a long time.

and he has Bismarck Mk.II at his side.