Iraqi child marriage with forced rape of primary school aged kids exposed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2019/undercover-with-the-clerics

The basic story but the programme is on iPlayer Iran's Secret Sex Trade

Not personally aimed at you denzil but one thing I don't understand about people is why they selectively trust the media on some news and not on others.

If this was a knife attack in London and BBC mentioned the attacker as British, you'd all be on about how the BBC is hiding the ethnic bg of the person due to their own agenda.

If this was a transgender news you'd be on about how they are hiding the real news under this nonsense.

But for some reason this Iraqi story is one of those rare news items that we can blindly trust the BBC on?

How do you know that the same BBC that feeds you controlled crap day in and day out isn't feeding you the same crap about Iraq? Why do we still quote BBC as an authentic news source? Don't say it's the national broadcaster coz this was what I was told last time I asked this.

There are many instances on the forum where a person criticizing BBC on one thread is using the same BBC as a source of news on another thread.

Islamaphobia at the bbc - well I never

@detrav Big difference between accusing the BBC pf reporting fake news and being biased.
They often do miss out crucial parts of stories like the time 3 Asian women attacked the white girl in London.
The BBC failed to show the part where the Asian women were being racist.
Not sure why you wouldn't take this story at face value or to be more precise why you think we shouldn't.

It's fake news, is it not? Too revolting and despicable to be true surely.

Aka, I don't have any reason to believe that this news isn't true. I'm just surprised by the amount of people that criticize BBC here. And that BBC still gets so much respect that it gets quoted on basically every news item here.

If the BBC run a story that goes against their usual progressive bias then it's almost certainly legit, you would think?

Some of the Chaps not waiting for the Promised Virgins .

People generally criticize the BBC for being biased politically.
Look at the Andrew Marr show for instance.
Nearly 70% of guests over a year period were EU remainers.
Similar bias with the panels on QT and Politics Live.

The Manual is fully Studied  ,Descriptions of the Leader  are very simular .

detraveller can see why you've posted what you've posted given that I've got another thread slating one of the BBC's top producers of Panorama and now using one of their programmes as the main source for this item.
I'll say this I don't just post these things blind on here as it's too easy to be wrong and they're too many clever people that will pull you up sharpish,on this occasion the most accessible sources are BBC based but this crisis has been sparsely mentioned for years and I'm certain that it's 100% true.
I also accept anything from any source as long as it's the truth I don't have a bias issue and can accept whatever,I'm basically against liars and cover ups especially the mass rape and paedophillia against young girls attached to the culture of Islam justified particualrly by sharia and wahhabism.

Normal for Islam.

The BBC run this story as an attack on mens' oppression of women. And in this case that's perfectly true.

Like most liberals however they're refusing to join the dots between Islam and the treatment of women.

The Paris attack is yet another classic example of a Muslim refusing to treat women with respect and  then going on a violent spree.

Ignorance is bliss - the motto of insecurity. That's mainly the reason why certain ethnic group shuns integration instead exacerbates an already vile and disrespectful act or behaviour towards women. A double standard is so prevalent in some ethnic communities.

"ah but, it's got nothing to do with Islam, it's a cultural issue."

UK been going on For years , They marry a belly for Benefits ,then out and about rounding up young girls ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhUAJPoM82k

2013 This Video . Fast forward to 2019 ,Van Loads heading to prison nationwide , it was going on for decades then

Our Luvvie friends need to be held accountable ,Name and Shame them ...

I doubt the abuse has stopped TBH ....

The Guy from the Times Points out that there seems to be Some confusion between the Age of puberty for girls (circa 11 years)
And the age of Consent 16 in the UK ...

Sharia which I would imagine is Valid in Iraq no problem with Using Puberty or younger as a Mark

He also Points out that no doubt Children have been murdered with no one being held accountable..With what appears to be a crackdown Prob too little too late , Perhaps the Iraq Model will be brought in to play in the UK ?

What some mightn't realise is that anal is the preferred choice with the children 'it depends how much pain they can take' being their line on the video.

The liberals will purge the right wingers before they purge the nonces. It's what they do... They're psycho.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/iuKTEGjKgS/teenage_iraq_brides

Horrific TBH  takes some reading and Watching , Young girls are basically looked upon as Sex Toys ,That appears to be
Their only value ,They then talk to some rsole who Says this is a sin against God ,Fooking Ell , This world is beyond
Belief ,We have the Likes of Thunderberg banging on about Climate And the Future , What about the future of the children
that are here Now , I bet the perps are Convinced they are doing it in the Name of God , Decades here , Must be centuries
in these Other countries ..... Sick

Where are the  Defenders on Here , Make a statement as to How these animals are allowed to treat Children Like this,

World wide ??? I can confirm the Total replies from  Them will be ZILCH , NOW.

This is not Serial Rapists , It is mass Serial rapists ... Unbelievable ...

Not ONE of the liberal rabble forumites condemning these despicable animals.
The silence is deafening.........just for a change!

Yes juce, it is very noticeable how the usual suspects fail to comment on these matters.

I wonder why that is?

I saw this report on the BBC News about 4am this morning (tucked away at a time when it will get minimum viewing?) . 'Pleasure marriages' justified by clerics as being being 'permitted by shariah' who advise anal intercourse as opposed to vaginal so as to preserve the childs virginity . Loss of virginity , if discovered by the girls family , will almost certainly result in her death (honour killing) .
It made for uncomfortable viewing , to say the least , with paedophiles 'marrying' their victim for 24 hours , in some cases via phone call to the Imam/cleric !
Never mind , Iraq is many , many miles from the civilised world in which we reside . That said , we actively encourage these vermin to migrate to our shores . Not a problem , I'm sure they park their perverted libido at the port on their way in . Such a wonderful diverse world we live in eh ?
Purely evil madness

I am not sure what exactly is the reasoning behind these mini marriages but could be an issue I have known for a long time. When a woman is divorced, she is often asked to remarry the person(parents not taking the daughter back/shame issues/family honor/woman living independently not possible etc.). However, remarriage isn't possible with the same person(probably is against sharia law). The clerics have devised a way where the woman marries another person for a day, has sex(a compulsory part according to the clerics), is divorced after a day and can then legally remarry her old husband. The clerics happily offer these services themselves.

This method has been abused by clerics for a long time now and will be abused for a long time to come. In fact looking at the muslim world there is no reason why this should change any time soon.

I'm wondering if Islam really is as benign as the virtue signalers tell us. I suppose we can only hope they are correct.

Evidence suggests it is an ideology that embraces paedophilia . Not just condoning it but encouraging it through scripture , along with sexual exploitation of non-islamic women . The Quran reads like a medieval version of The Joy Of Sex ffs !

Yet we welcome members of this cult , for want of a better description , to our shores and criminalise any criticism whatsoever of practices that we , as a civilised society , find abhorrent .

World Wide  action , As I have stated with being banged up for attacking White Girls we will see the Softer Option of the use of young Relations ,It is probably already going on . With the Mention of young Girls being married etc in the Book Perhaps
Some think it is Compulsory , With enclaves in Certain parts of the UK and sharia courts etc we can only Imagine what is Going on

Needs to be Brought up in the house , with Assurances given by communities that any such action is not permitted ....

Purity, I think - the most likelihood of that when the girl is young. On the contrary, and this is the most unbelievable contrast ie the bloke can have 4 wives at any one time. I wonder if any of the bloke ever thought about when the boot is on the other foot eg when he's a daughter.

Hypocrisy to the extreme.

Until they open 'choose to show' the connection all will stay the same.
Below is what was posted several times on the grooming gang threads and if I can find such info then those in control know fine well what the issues are and the hows/whys;

• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death (see "Islamophobia").
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.

I suppose it depends on how much cash you can get.  I have banged on about this years ago and one influently party that wanted to put women's rights back even further in Iraq.
I have been slanged off many times for years by the excusers on here and when they tighten up on the rules of ANY critique of the book you will all be going off to jail for evening mentioning ANYTHING

Already become a protected species.  They have achieved what they have wanted and rule in certain areas already

it takes 20,000 votes in each city/town constituency    times     300 seats and we are there.

I have invented a new word  influently    = influential  doh!!

There are at least 3 charities in this country asking for money to protect these girls under threat.  How on earth did we get here.
ps

thanks Bliar

There have been a few Charities involved in the same carry on ...

sharia offices springing up in each town now

Oct 6, 2019 -- 3:07PM, moisok wrote:

sharia offices springing up in each town now

Do you know which verse in the koran is responsible for that?

Do you people never wonder that for every step these people take in your country, there's someone happily allowing them to take that step?

Yes dt check my 2:48 post

DenzilPenberthy • October 6, 2019 2:48 PM BST
Until they open 'choose to show' the connection all will stay the same.

Meaning it is being allowed

It will continue to be like that. You will all go crazy talking about the koran. Has been the same theme for the last 4 years here. There's a thread where everyone can talk about how bad Islam is. Then they forget it for a few days and something happens. back to talking about how bad Islam is.

I haven't seen one thread on why britain doens't have the tech to detect dinghies coming in from France(the closest you guys have come is criticzing the people on these boats and Merkel's import from 2016). Both these factors don't stop border patrol from stopping these boats, yet they don't stop them and no one asks a question. But as soon as these people land on the shore, back to criticizing Islam. More recently its also the EU that gets a part of the blame but that usually happens on the brexit threads.

"• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it."

My cousin died from a heart attack aged 49 last month.  Instead of flowers he requested donations to the charity "Families Need Fathers"

I agree with you Denzil this does need to stop

this is far too young they have to be of at least marriable age.

They do not have to abandon their book but have to allow for the passage of time

They ARE of marriable age.

This is the point i am trying to make. They are fine marrying their daughters at 9(marriable age according to them). You should not force them to change or consider that they may have to abandon their book.

In all this, there is one factor you can control, that British law should not allow this to happen on British territory. Yet you don't even mention that in your post, but expect people in Iraq to change according to standards you have set for them.

Not aimed at you personally, but this is the point ive been trying to make. When will people stop wanting the muslims to change and start asking their own authorities why they're allowing all this to happen?

Not aimed at you personally, but this is the point ive been trying to make. When will people stop wanting the muslims to change and start asking their own authorities why they're allowing all this to happen?

dt those who do this lose jobs,repuations,are hounded by bent media,stuck in jail on made up charges etc.
From my time on here most have been blaming the corrupt authorities and are able to show evidence of where this occurs in relation to protecting Islam.

To be honest I have never seen anyone mention British border patrol's inability to detect boats(when there were people landing at will in Kent etc). Or UKIB's refusal to share visa details of those that arrive in UK on student visas, slip to France, apply for asylum, get a passport. Similarly border police allowing people to travel freely even when they aren't allowed to(only EU gets to travel without visas, everyone else has to get one, but they don't check!)

The above are things that you are british people can actually control, or can at least ask your representatives to look at or answer for. yet no one ever talks about it. But everyone wants the muslims to change. They don't intend to do they?

Well it is against the LAW here so nobody in this country can allow this

If people here retain their Muslim faith and stick to this...as they are supposes to

then it shows the Muslims can compromise...so Iraq can as well.

Still don't think we should invaded Iraq but that is a different issue.

I think the points being made are that we are importing a culture that is mysoginistic in the extreme.

At a time of #metoo and aggressive feminism the irony is palpable.

It used to be said that the fashions and fads of America would soon arrive here; music, films, clothes, food.

Now it's a case of FGM, mass rape, polygamy, dogma (without the dogs..) and all the other behaviour of the peace loving types who arrive by dinghy, snorkel, eurostar, ferry and aircraft.

Sadly to oppose the influx of this lifestyle attracts labels of right wing, fascist and Nazi...forgive me for being confused...

Every time anyone mentions antyhing about anyone who isn't a white hetrosexual they are labelled a fascist dt no matter how strong the wrongs are,it's deliberately this way so that the questions aren't asked as explained above.

dt - the Labour Party plan to close ALL immigration detention centres. Some of them want the removal of all borders and of course Corbyn wants uncontrolled immigration.

I think you'll find they'll get wasted at the ballot box by the electorate. If not, we indeed are the problem..

The actions against thousands of Young ladies against the law Blue , nothing done for years ...

This rent a Bride caper is Incredible on two Sides , one that the Perps see it as Ok , The other actual families

Selling the Girls out

Girls are dehumanised within a number of cultures. That's why the NHS don't offer free baby scans in a number of areas.

'Dr Shahab Qureshi, from the Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association, said he was "absolutely certain" that fears about selective abortion were one of the reasons hospitals refused to tell parents the sex of their unborn child.'

'Hospitals in Watford, St Albans and Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire, and Luton in Bedfordshire say they are too busy to determine the sex of the unborn child during scans' - Yeah right....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/8786542/Maternity-units-refuse-to-tell-parents-the-sex-of-unborn-babies.html

Meanwhile fathers in the UK are forced to leave their home and prevented from seeing their children

The media give more airtime to Nadya Husseins problems than what is happening to those kids in the name of religion. Most religious "leaders" are no more than control freaks abusing their religious followers.

Telford is worth checking out -

It is funny how the Muslim faith and other religions are based on teachings thousnds of years old, when brutality, war and dictatorship were the norm and democracy never existed, and it's accepted as the meaning of life for many, yet go back only 50-100 years ago in the UK, and what is considered acceptable and unacceptable has completely changed.  If what is acceptable changes so much over 100 years, imagine it changing 15-20 times more.  Well I guess that's why you get what seem in modern standards such vile and disgusting beliefs from the Quran.  What is utterly utterly insane is that people still follow it blindly.

Thoroughly enjoyed Hotel Mumbai fwiw

Now imagine it was made up by a man sitting in a cave What's the number these days? 1.5 billion?

A lot of the "factual backdrop" of Mohammad I believe has been easily proven to be incorrect.  I think there is some doubt that he ever really existed, unlike Jesus.  I think there is very strong scientific evidence that the parting of the Red Sea attributed to Moses was actually a mega volcanic eruption in Santorini

Wow this means Moses was actually one of the most coincidentally fortunate figure in history,talk about timing.

Maybe these people actually never existed and so never made up these stories themselves? At some point in time someone came along and told his village history of man. They believed him. Then they went to the next village and told them how they're the ancestors of that great man and so converted the village to their cult too. And so it expanded...

By the way, it is quite possible Moses parted the sea by causing a volcano so that strong scientific evidence doesn't really prove anything.

It's perfect for a comedy sketch.  Story gets taller and taller every time it's retold sort of thing.

I'm pretty sure the story of Mohammad has a serious flaw whereby he was meant to live/visit a certain place 300 or so years before that place even existed.

Oct 6, 2019 -- 8:55PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:

I'm pretty sure the story of Mohammad has a serious flaw whereby he was meant to live/visit a certain place 300 or so years before that place even existed.

I am neither a religious man nor a strong atheist(just the don't give a fk type)

But I always find the debate about prophets being a fraud interesting. Because the more you accuse someone of a fraud or fake, the more of a cult figure they become.

Just imagine having written in your book that you visited the american president in the year 1350. If you can get billions of people to go along with your story, are you not worth praying to?

I could add you being a pedo and a murderer to it but for now just focus on the american story and getting billions to believe you.

Yeah,I like the South Park Book of Mormon episode which explains about how it was made up by a bloke named Joseph Smith.

In days of the past..it was often necessary for women to marry as soon as they reached puberty..

Because their job was to produce children...Before the days of modern medical science a heavy proportion of children died in childhood.

But I don't believe a female has ever reached puberty at 9 years old, then or now....so sex with a 9 year old is a sexual pervasion

It has been and always will be

Roman Emperor Tiberius was a noted pervert he did a lot of this.

On a quick search the top line said between 8-12 for girls but I don't know much about it other than reading that hormonal changes in the environment such as getting into the water supply are causing earlier developments.
Even if they've hit puberty their bodies can't be fully developed surely that's part of the reason why we have the restricted age laws in place?

I know Denzil..you are dead right

They are scarcely mature enough either physically or mentally enough to be having children.

What is happening we tend to encourage retaliations with those of their own age, if possible without sex.....the older males are getting

a little cut out.