Tories and Brexit Party together.

100% agree.

Are the Conservatives a 1 policy party now?

Therein lies the problem n88. However, I'm fairly certain the Brexit Party could take quite a few seats oop North where the tories would have little or no chance. 1 policy may do there. Though they constantly refuse any pact with TBP, I've a feeling once an election date is set, this may well change.

Also it seems all are 1 policy at the mo. Block brexit.  No election.

And the Conservatives are just going to stand aside in the 80-90 seats Farage wants them to do so are they?

Nope. They are not there yet.

Conservatives will get buried in the long run doing this. Assume plenty within the Conservatives are well aware of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0xZTOckceA
Farage at his best.......

I think he would make a better prime minister than boris.

Why doesn't boris get a proper haircut?  I was looking at him speaking in parliament and noticed his hair has been cut to look a mess.  It is all different lengths.  He has lovely blonde hair so getting it to look nice would be easy - but he chooses to look like this.  And deliberately musses it up as well.  I don't think I trust boris.  I think he is in it for the fame and adulation, not to serve this country.

I agree with you, jefferz, it was a very good speech.

annie. 27 Sep 19 17:41 
I think he would make a better prime minister than boris.

Why doesn't boris get a proper haircut?  I was looking at him speaking in parliament and noticed his hair has been cut to look a mess.  It is all different lengths.  He has lovely blonde hair so getting it to look nice would be easy - but he chooses to look like this.  And deliberately musses it up as well.  I don't think I trust boris.  I think he is in it for the fame and adulation, not to serve this country.

You're very wise Annie - anyone whose lifelong ambition is to be Prime Minister is not to be trusted. As for his appearance, it reflects his lifestyle, chaotic. I would bet his house is a mess.

Thank you, crystalhunt

The Brexit Party won't win a single seat at the next General election.

Young Nigel! Wasn't he the guy that told the worlds media that the remainers had won which dropped the value of the pound and all his mates made a sh1t load of money on false information? Sounds perfect for the job Annie in that case

The very one Terry.

I read somewhere that it was the huge leave result in Sunderland early on brexit night that caused the pound to fall in the asian markets.  Why would the pound fall if the markets thought that remain would win, surely the opposite would be true?

Surely not Annie as it turned out

Farage has already said that Johnson should resign so not a good sign for an alliance.

Cant trust Nigel but then who can you--really?

Honesty: Expressing your feelings and opinions accurately.
Truth: Accurate representation of reality.

Just for you Terry

Learn the difference m8 ,ffs

I don't think there is anyone that I would want to be prime minister out of the current party, but farage would be better than that lot.

Trust a politician says Bread n butter, o ok

Things is Annie, I voted out and that hasn't change but to leave with a no deal,well who would that benefit? Not the likes of you or me that's for sure

I am baffled as to what type of deal could be formed between the Conservatives and the Brexit Party. How would it work exactly?

Aint going to happen

Why do you think the Oppos other than Swineson Dont want a GE with no deal on the Table , A bit of tactical placement , Labour would be a Million and they know it  , Swineson a Glory seeker , doesn't give a flying But they would do a lot of damage to Labour ..

"what type of deal could be formed between the Conservatives and the Brexit Party"

Boris wants out they want out  ?? Not much problem with deals IMO ?

Problem is two-fold. Firstly, Nige would essentially be campaiging in the north on a ticket that everyone knows is essentially just a Tory one. You can give it a different colour but it's the same thing.

Secondly, it's what happens after this election. The Tories inviting TBP into government and giving them a run at getting dozens of seats is like inviting a wolf into dinner. The whole point of the last few years has been to get voters to ignore Farage for them. No way are they going to legitimise him and give him credibility as it gives him a platform to build on in a couple of years which sees the Tories key vote split in half. The only way the tories and Farage unite is if Nige jacks his party in and joins Johnson.

Sep 27, 2019 -- 11:10PM, casemoney wrote:

Why do you think the Oppos other than Swineson Dont want a GE with no deal on the Table , A bit of tactical placement , Labour would be a Million and they know it

I will take that million please.

Surely the Tories could give The Brexit party  free run at northern seats where they are no hopers.

farge shouts out a mrs may type deal anything other than no deal woold lose Johnson millions of votes to Brexit party, but not enough to win seats and labour remain partis come through middle
tory/Brexit parties are like women  cant live with,m cant live without,m

how the foook can Johnson claim to be a one nation conservative[ Cameron ] and join forces with the fruitcake and loon the reffwas designed to get rid of
only the tories can bitterly divide England, end the union and then join forces with the party,the reff was designed to bury,

Sep 28, 2019 -- 11:17AM, Sica Dan wrote:

Surely the Tories could give The Brexit party

The Brexit Party are no hopers in northern seats.

sageform 13 Apr 19 13:01
If they are foolish enough to hold EU elections, Nigel will win most seats in England.

politicspunter 13 Apr 19 13:02
Doubtful.

Hope you have better luck this time, pp. Have you gone all in on the 0-9 seats at around 1-3?

Lol, An EU election protest vote thread from April that you think has some relevance regarding constituency seats in any forthcoming general election?

Who knows, I don't think the country has ever been in a situation where politicians have wilfully tried to overturn a democratic vote. 'Betrayal' and 'Surrender' are powerful words.

Immigration was massive in deciding the referendum, now we have a Labour Party advocating a free-for-all.

I'd imagine Nigel is going to appeal to a lot of voters this time.

Of course, if Johnson gets May's Treaty through Parliament with a tweak to the backstop, then your 1-3 could look good value!

I am not sure why you seem to think I have bet 1-3 on anything?

I very rarely back anything odds on.

And I haven't a single bet on any Brexit market.

I do beg your pardon, when you said they were no-hopers in northern seats, I presumed you'd lived up to your name and gone in heavily on 0-9 seats.

They are no hopers in Northern seats.

But you think they can win seats elsewhere?

If you go to the politics forum, I have quoted some prices on them for some constituency seats in the north.

Sep 28, 2019 -- 11:34PM, GEORGE.B wrote:

But you think they can win seats elsewhere?

Not really, no.

So when you say they're no hopers in northern seats, you really mean they're no hopers full stop iyo?

So you must see 1-3 for 0-9 seats as exceedingly good value?

As I said earlier, if it's odds on, it's extremely unlikely I would bet on it.

Politics betting can be extremely volatile prices wise. If you take a very short price on something and the polls turn against you, there is unlikely to be an easy way out.

Aren't you contradicting yourself, if you consider them no-hopers to win any seat, never mind 10, then surely 1-3 must seem like finding money in the street?

Let me try and put it another way. Let's suppose the next election occurs on schedule ie the year 2022. If you place a bet now at say 1/3 on anything, first of all you will have tied up a possibly large portion of your bank for three years. At the end of those three years will your bet still be a genuine 1/3 shot and more importantly, it still has to win to show a return on your initial (possibly substantial) outlay. It's not for me.

When do you think the next election will be, pp?

Within the next six months probably but at odds on I won't be backing it!

Totally disagree. If Brexit has not happened when the election is on, they will win Northern seats, especially if a deal is struck with the Tories.

Sep 29, 2019 -- 11:06AM, HGS wrote:

Totally disagree. If Brexit has not happened when the election is on, they will win Northern seats, especially if a deal is struck with the Tories.

Name some northern seats they will win in your opinion.

Blackpool, Burnley, Fylde, Hyndburn, Rochdale, Rossendale, Wigan, Wyre from the North West. Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Stockton & Sunderland from the NE.

In fact any Labour heartland that overwhelmingly voted leave and has been shat on must be in the running.

torys arnt offering to cut immigration,even to end free movement yet,offering it to ozz in FTD,and announcing 40 new hospitals. social care overhaul,you thinks that's happening without 10,s of tyhousands of migrants,call it what you want free movement,ozz points based, extendinmg visa,s for students ,certain sectors, it aint stopping

these policies arnt publicised in a vacuum labour talking about it,pritti pattel saying freedom of movement wont end on oct 31st and she wants as many of the best there is to come,show the attitudes around immigration are changing, brexiteers never mention it

Sep 29, 2019 -- 11:40AM, HGS wrote:

Blackpool, Burnley, Fylde, Hyndburn, Rochdale, Rossendale, Wigan, Wyre from the North West. Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Stockton & Sunderland from the NE.In fact any Labour heartland that overwhelmingly voted leave and has been shat on must be in the running.

If the Brexit Party (currently polling at around 13%) stand in these seats (likely) and the conservatives do also (certain) then how will the Brexit Party have any chance of winning them?

As I have said, they would need to come together for it to happen. If they did then it's certainly game on. A  long shot I know.

Also, the key thing is again, how Brexit stands at the time of election. It is of massive importance.

if they come to an arrangement it will help any tory rebels standing as independents ,so that gives tory,s a fight
in lib dem marginals/remain area,s
labour noarrthern seats
tory independents
London
Scotland

I,d take farage bluster of 60/100 seats majority with plenty of salt,he,s that confident wont even tell people where he,s sitting in case opposition throw kitchen sink at him, thought he wanted to bring on the fight,leave would win by more blah,blah why wouldn't you want to bring it on fairly obvious he,ll be sitting in a huge leave area,why does he think he,ll lose the argument,debate

The last Farage led single issue party won the EU elections on a derisory turnout but failed to win seats at Westminster. Sound familiar?

Sep 29, 2019 -- 11:40AM, HGS wrote:

Blackpool, Burnley, Fylde, Hyndburn, Rochdale, Rossendale, Wigan, Wyre from the North West. Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Stockton & Sunderland from the NE.In fact any Labour heartland that overwhelmingly voted leave and has been shat on must be in the running.

Blackpool North- Tory/labour marginal
Blackpool South- Tory/Labour marginal
Burnley- Labour favourite
Fylde- certain tory
Hyndburn- tory/labour marginal
Rochdale- Labour clear favourite
Rossendale- tory/ labour marginal
Wigan- Labour clear favourite
Wyre and Preston North- tories clear favourite
Hartlepool- Labour favourite
Middlesborough South- tory/labour marginal
Stockton South- tory/labour marginal
Sunderland Central- Labour favourite

how does farage sit in a seat then take time out to campaign in naarthern seats ,telling people to vote tory on his say so,which is his pitch to Johnson, that would meanm a 100 of his proposed Brexit mp,s ,in his words primed and readied to go,standing aside
assuming we,re still in the eu, how the fook does a party who,s only pledge is to be the only party to deliver a so called clean break Brexit,stanbd down for a party that has failed to honour that very pledge,
if your prepared to stand your troops down for that,there,s nothing left in the world giving the circumstances you wouldn't stand aside for,so how do you stand in other seats,

We voted OUT OF "EMPIRE" EUROPE,kindly now get us out!

2 problems brexiteer,s wont put up a deal and when they do brecxiteers keep voting it down

The problem is in reality we will never leave,not moved an inch forward after 100million words have been spoken,theatre for the masses,i"ll even go as far as to say,its monumental b0llocks and pure f uckary the whole bloody thing.