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21 Sep 19 08:43
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John Humphrys has lifted the lid on the BBC's "institutional liberal bias" and accused the corporation of being out of touch with the nation in his memoir. 

The veteran broadcaster, who retired from Radio 4's Today show two days ago, says bosses "badly failed" to read the public's mood on Brexit and "simply could not grasp" why anybody voted Leave.

In an extract published in The Daily Mail on Saturday, he recalled the morning after the referendum, writing: "Leave had won – and this was not what the BBC had expected. Nor what it wanted.

"No nods and smiles when the big bosses appeared. No attempt to pretend that this was anything other than a disaster."

In the book, called A Day Like Today, he adds: "Bosses, almost to a man and woman, could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box on the referendum ballot paper.

"I’m not sure the BBC as a whole ever quite had a real grasp of what was going on in Europe, or of what people in this country thought about it."

Humphrys describes the BBC as being terrified of offending "‘fashionable pressure groups – usually from the liberal left, the spiritual home of most bosses and staff".

However, despite his misgivings, the 76-year-old says he has "no doubt" that the BBC remains a "tremendous and irreplaceable force for good.

Humphrys also reveals that he voted for Remain, after facing complaints that he was guilty of pro-Brexit bias during his BBC career.

In another extract, he candidly addresses the broadcaster's handling of its gender pay gap row, saying it made the Today show a "laughing stock".

The son of French polisher father and a Welsh hairdresser mother, Humphrys earned a reputation as the broadcaster's "rottweiler-in-chief" after joining in 1967.

He became a presenter on Today in 1987 after a career as a foreign correspondent and presenter of the Nine O'Clock News.

His last years in the job have been accompanied by scrutiny of his salary.  He took several pay cuts to bring his wages closer to those of his female colleagues.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph as Humphrys bowed out from the Today show on Thursday, the BBC director-general Lord Hall of Birkenhead said: "There is perhaps no greater tribute than the collective sigh of relief that will be issued by leaders and public figures all around the country."
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Report saddo September 21, 2019 9:02 AM BST
"Bosses, almost to a man and woman, could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box on the referendum ballot paper.

"I’m not sure the BBC as a whole ever quite had a real grasp of what was going on in Europe, or of what people in this country thought about it."





And still they push their liberal tripe at people who are sick of hearing it, and are forced to pay for the privilege. The sooner it's gone the better.
Report anxious September 21, 2019 9:08 AM BST
Yeah that true then all you are left with is the Murdoch garbage
Report anxious September 21, 2019 9:08 AM BST
And the tory lie machine
Report saddo September 21, 2019 10:24 AM BST
I don't need any media to see how things are round here, the BBC do not represent me or anyone I know.
Report Injera September 21, 2019 10:39 AM BST
So he waits till the end before telling us what we already know? How weak is that. He was a major part of the problem for decades but took the money.
Report anxious September 21, 2019 10:57 AM BST
600 grand a year i think origially , so he did not do to bad
Report anxious September 21, 2019 10:59 AM BST
The bbc dont represent anybody , yes they are politically correct but they have no sympathy for Socialism
Report lfc1971 September 21, 2019 11:00 AM BST
hes talking about brexit
Report Dr Crippen September 21, 2019 11:40 AM BST
As an example take Andrew Marr.

When he he interviews a Labour MP, the interview resembles a Labour party political broadcast or a friendly fireside chat.

Yet when he interviews a Tory MP, it's interruption after interruption with yet nother accusing question on top of the previous one he's just fired off, giving no time for the MP to answer his extremely hostile accusations.

And he usually reserve his most damning accusation or something he's dug up from the MP's past, for right at the very end when the MP hasn't got time to answer.

This must be Marr's way of thanking the BBC for having him back after his stroke.
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 21, 2019 11:46 AM BST
I think you will find all bbc hosts are the same, plenty more interrupters on the sidelines.
Report moisok September 21, 2019 11:48 AM BST
where do you think all those unsold Guardian papers end up?
Report anxious September 21, 2019 12:06 PM BST
Why be so biased people , you hate Socialism but never speak about the spiv supporting media , how strange is that
Report anxious September 21, 2019 12:06 PM BST
The Murdoch filth condemn them , no i dont think so
Report anxious September 21, 2019 12:07 PM BST
Crippen you are such a biter man
Report Baphornet September 21, 2019 12:08 PM BST
talking of interrupting - just watch Fiona the Bruce on QT

"‘fashionable pressure groups – usually from the liberal left, the spiritual home of most bosses and staff". In one & all that i've been saying for years
Report jumper3 September 21, 2019 12:31 PM BST
I first came across these liberal political correct attitudes in the 1980s in London. The public sector. My social circle who worked for the most part in the private sector, did not start to see similar until post millenium, more than 20 years later. Now, about 15 years after that, this liberalism is well entrenched. Humphries is correct in that analysis. It really is some people in senior positions living in their own bubble.

It really has become the overriding conciousness now. Identity politics is its baby.

Anxious is dead right though. The Tories really are spivs. I've seen enough of them over the years to see that.
Report lux September 21, 2019 12:43 PM BST
The bbc dont represent anybody , yes they are politically correct but they have no sympathy for Socialism

Excited

How do you manage to square that particular circle?
Report Injera September 21, 2019 1:09 PM BST
I must say, it's a brilliant read. Scathing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7487661/Broadcaster-John-Humphrys-lifts-lid-institutional-liberal-bias-BBC.html
Report moisok September 21, 2019 1:09 PM BST
Yes - this is all very interesting but not important.

But re Fiona  - WOULD YOU?
Report moisok September 21, 2019 1:11 PM BST
83 percent of guests pro eu   ho ho   - but no bias
Report moisok September 21, 2019 1:11 PM BST
but then add in most of the presenters it is probably nearer 90 percent
Report anxious September 21, 2019 5:55 PM BST
The right wing bar room bores in force tonight again
Report anxious September 21, 2019 5:56 PM BST
The spiv filth with their billionaire backers and people complain about the bbc PlainPlain
Report anxious September 21, 2019 5:57 PM BST
The tory lie machine it feeds the sheep 24/7
Report UBLE/REGY September 21, 2019 6:31 PM BST
The BBC was respected worldwide once back in the 70's I remember

Not now, well look it it's staff for a start hardly representative of the outside world.

To be fair BBC4 is not bad, some good documentaries
Report UBLE/REGY September 21, 2019 6:32 PM BST
Anybody heterosexual at the BBC has to keep apologising for it
Report UBLE/REGY September 21, 2019 6:34 PM BST
There are not allowed to use heterosexual language, it is seen as discriminatory, straight up.
Report northanlite September 21, 2019 6:57 PM BST
did he mention the tories the bbc employ? they are an easy target but take sh1t from
both sides so must be doing something right. last two bbc tv lead political editors have been
conservatives.
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 21, 2019 7:07 PM BST
Deluded.

Name them.


I think you are confused when presenters do research on mainly a left wing guest.
Report anxious September 21, 2019 7:12 PM BST
really what evidence do you have of this so called left wing bias ?
Report anxious September 21, 2019 7:15 PM BST
A  guy on 600 grand a year probably a tory even though he said he voted to remain , why should anyway believe getting a good few quid with his story to the murdoch filth and the daily fail
Report lfc1971 September 21, 2019 7:16 PM BST
Have they ever put forward a programme or news item that suggests mass immigration may be a bad thing ?
Report lux September 21, 2019 7:23 PM BST
The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr
Report lux September 21, 2019 7:23 PM BST
“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.

“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor
Report lux September 21, 2019 7:23 PM BST
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ­Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ­running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.

–  Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
Report lux September 21, 2019 7:26 PM BST
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/what-is-the-loneliest-job-in-britain-being-a...
Report Nebs September 21, 2019 7:28 PM BST
What is the penalty if they fail to adhere to the terms of their charter?
Report UBLE/REGY September 21, 2019 7:33 PM BST
really what evidence do you have of this so called left wing bias ? anxious

There news reports on the Red Button

Totally biased report of US election I remember.. presenting Trump's win as a disaster...of course it was not

Their programs...all this gender neutral rubbish
Report UBLE/REGY September 21, 2019 7:34 PM BST
I watch channel 81 as an antidote
Report casemoney September 21, 2019 7:38 PM BST
Rarely watch the BEEB , Trash
Report starkeycars September 21, 2019 7:52 PM BST
Telling us what we already know look at the Canadian pm more black faces what hypocrisy the liberals not said a word the silence tells you all you need to know if pictures came forward of Donald trump they would be outrage the liberal left make me sick how many more pictures will come forward 4 already the next is one of Justin doing al Johnson singing mama then a encore of old man river Cry but as the liberal left will tell us ...he was young we all make mistakes (27)
Report starkeycars September 21, 2019 7:55 PM BST
The real tragedy is a once great county  and people will vote the clown back into power again that’s the real tragedy Sad
Report starkeycars September 21, 2019 7:57 PM BST
Would love to know Micheal Moore’s views on this matter maybe he could make a film about it
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:19 PM BST
do the spiv fans never accept the tory bias in the wider media
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:21 PM BST
financed by the elite and the bankers who control nearly everything the trickle down merchants sell their agenda every time
Report EvgenyKissin September 21, 2019 8:23 PM BST
Hi Anxious.

Are you glad they pulled the plug on ditching Watson?
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:28 PM BST
EK good evening hope you are ok , i think it would be the wrong time to have a major battle , this week ,a brighton will be a media drama most of the real issues will be fought outside Westminster and Brighton , Jeremy is a good campaigner outside the bubble
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:28 PM BST
Watson has a voice in the labour movement let him speak
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:29 PM BST
the real enemy is the tories surely even the blairites know this
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:30 PM BST
The Labour movement and the Unions must unite to defeat the Bullingdon
Report EvgenyKissin September 21, 2019 8:36 PM BST
That seems right. Do you think Corbyn will employ salami tactics to dilute the power of the deputy leadership, effectively reducing it to the few people within it (if there are any)who support his ideas?
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:43 PM BST
EK when the campaign starts all bets are off if Labour are to have any chance i would say stay neutral , if necessary i think they will say 2nd referendum but i think to leave is the correct decision if 17.4 million voted for this , Corbyn  has always been a euro sceptic so its difficult for him
Report EvgenyKissin September 21, 2019 8:46 PM BST
I think that move by Corbyn effectively confirms what you just wrote. They need to prioritise sorting out their strategy for next month and also a winter GE.

Btw, have you heard any news about John Prescott since his stroke?
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:50 PM BST
Tony benn , barbara castle , denis skinner , peter shore , eric heffer , bob crowe , all great comrades of the labour movement were all euro sceptics , i salute these people they were great Socialists
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:52 PM BST
i think he is ok , all the best to John a great union guy and a real fighter for the labour movement LoveLove
Report anxious September 21, 2019 8:54 PM BST
you see this talk about patriots i think on the left there are great patriots i love my country just as much as farage and bullingdon
Report macarony September 21, 2019 8:57 PM BST
The bbc preach to the converted as do every other broadcaster and news paper in the Uk today, thats the situation we are in p1ss poor
Report EvgenyKissin September 21, 2019 8:59 PM BST
He was very useful to Corbyn during the election campaign in 2017.

I liked the joke he cracked during one Labour conference in the 1990s: "The only tory who wins anything these days is Frankie Dettori!" Laugh He may have said it after Dettori won the seven races at Ascot.
Report anxious September 21, 2019 9:04 PM BST
hey i think you wil find the bankers and the biased foreign  media who control this country are scared   to the death of Jeremy because he challenges their money power and privilege  every time
Report anxious September 21, 2019 9:04 PM BST
Viva Jeremiah CoolCool
Report anxious September 21, 2019 9:07 PM BST
I  think you will find  the younger generation will support him  and reject trickle down and austerity
Report northanlite September 21, 2019 9:28 PM BST
takes the bbc shilling fronting the flagship bbc 4 today prog then dumps on them for bias?
anyone see a conflict of bullsh1t?
Report EvgenyKissin September 21, 2019 9:29 PM BST
Michael Foot and Spike Milligan were good friends.
Report northanlite September 21, 2019 9:43 PM BST
nick robinson  tory & former chief BBC political editor & tory
Laura Kuenssberg  tory & chief BBC editor

doesn't make them bad people i suppose.
i'm not saying there isn't left wing bias in the bbc but if there was right wing bias
no chance anyone even close to the centre gets a say in anything. the right claims
freedom of speech as it breaks your jaw.
Report Dr Crippen September 22, 2019 10:03 AM BST
The problem people like Humphrys have is one of credibility.
For all those years in the BBC he kept quiet and racked up the millions, perfectly happy to go along with the bias which he now condemns.

Then as he leaves he puts the knife in simply to attract attention and kickstart his story, in order to make even more money from exposing his former employer.

I'm not really interested in what a person like that has got to say, because he'll simply say what's required in order to swell his own bank account.
Report sixtwosix September 22, 2019 10:09 AM BST
Yer another 'former' who suddenly gets a strong opinion ......pathetic.
Report treetop September 22, 2019 6:00 PM BST
Understandable that Humphreys had to play the game to further his career. Anyone in public life that speaks out gets quietly eased out and denied advancement. Happens throughout the NHS,Education and elsewhere. I do wish I had been able to walk around the BBC the day after the referendum.
Report elisjohn September 22, 2019 6:09 PM BST
I liked the joke he cracked during one Labour conference in the 1990s: "The only tory who wins anything these days is Frankie Dettori!" Laugh He may have said it after Dettori won the seven races at Ascot.
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