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Corbyn has constantly asked for an election for years and yet when he is offered one he turns it down, twice. He wants a pre-nuptial taking No Deal off the table. This suggests he does not think he would win an election, for if he did win then he could do whatever with Brexit. If he's convinced that the public won't vote for him then surely he realises that the public do not agree with his views on Brexit. By seeking to delay Brexit and, in the event of Brexit, letting the EU have a deal, he is going against what the people want.
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Why change the habits of a lifetime?
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OP misses the point that Boris would then have been in control of both the election date and Brexit date. Even a thicko like Corbyn could see that elephant trap.
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can we start to interject "some of" into phrases like "what (some of) the people want" and " the will of (some of) the people"
or perhaps add in figure like "the will of 37% of the electorate" or "the will of 26% of the total uk population" just for the sake of accuracy. |
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Scandalous Scenes in the House , With the Oppo refusing to go to Lords for the Suspension , Instead staying put and Singing the likes of Keep the Red Flag and Flower of Scotland in the Commons ,the KINGDOM IS NO LONGER UNITED ,Its time to break it up ..
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It was not only Labour who opposed Boris, was it...it was his own party as well?
Don't blame it all on Corbyn The truth is none of the MP's think we should leave the EU, bar Farage, and he is not their any more ps and the majority of the electorate who think we should leave |
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It is not so much that MPs want to Remain, but that the MPs who want to leave cannot agree amongst themselves how to leave.
That is what gave us the paradox of Remainers voting to leave, and Leavers voting to remain every time Theresa May's WA bills came before parliament. It would have been Brexit but the wrong sort of Brexit, apparently. |
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ok Ramruma
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This suggests he does not think he would win an election, for if he did win then he could do whatever with Brexit
This is all wrong lybertyne although I do say his best chance of becoming Prime Minister and postponing and or stopping Brexit is now, before a General Election. It is very sad that many people cannot have an honest debate on the subject. Let me put this proposition forward. I say there is a possibility that Jeremy Corbyn can become the next Prime Minister and ask the EU for an extension to our withdrawal from the EU. I am also saying that as head of the Executive he could even revoke Article 50 with the consent of Parliament. People will say he cannot do that. They will say he cannot become Prime Minister. He cannot ask the EU for an extension but he can. In actual fact I think the possibility of him becoming Prime minister is getting stronger. I am not saying it will happen. There also seems to be a lack of honesty from the Political parties. At the impending General Election I am also convinced that battle lines will be between Leave and remain. I thought that Nigel Fromage would want to decimate the Conservatives but he is a smart operator and knows the forces ranged against Brexit will likely form an Electoral Pact. I am pretty sure he will do the same with the Conservatives. It will be fascinating to see. The big unknown apart from voter intentions is what support a Remain Government could hope for from Labour MP's. The Leave group within Labour have remained remarkably silent. The are plenty of Labour MP's in Leave Constituencies. Nothing can be taken for granted with the Government, Parliament and even the voting public. Interesting times! |
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"Wages have continued to grow at a strong pace and employment remains at record highs, official figures show."
Today's news, god help us if Labour get in....I though as soon as we voted brexit, mass unemployment and hell on earth....lies! |
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It is not lies doridu it is an opinion that might prove right or wrong after the event. What was lies was £350 million for the NHS after Brexit.
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Um no, George Osbourne and all the remain gimps said mass unemployment, sky rocket prices etc within 3 months of the vote, 3 years later business is booming, unemployment record low etc because business are staying, you lot would rather destroy the country....
The Facebook, Twitter remain muppets and their pic of crisps for £5 a pack etc scaremongering 3 years ago...there will be 100's of millions for the NHS if we were allowed no deal the real Brexit, but the traitors Corbyn etc need their EU bungs. |
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yes well nice to have a reasoned debate with you, thanks.
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There is a possibility of a 3 way coalition between Jezza, Jo and Wee Nicola. Gawd help us!
Boris has to find 50 seats from somewhere to get a majority. The only coalition he woudl consider is with Nigel. But he won't win many seats will he?! The dilemma for Jezza is he could fall down the chasm between Remainers and Brexiteers. He could easily lose votes from both. The Remainers I know have a few bob and would be fearful of the Reds under their beds taking it off them. So do they vote for Jo instead? Probably. Meanwhile Brexit Labour supporters may well vote for Nigel, unwilling to vote for Boris' Tory boys. I'd like a price on a 2nd GE next May!!!!! |
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There are so many possibilities it really is hard to call. I think you might be right that the first General Election may not provide any clarity. We would be in huge trouble then!
I do think there will be electoral pacts and maybe that is why Jo Swansong is so against making JC the PM thereby giving him some degree of credibility. Anyone know when JC can be challenged again for the Labour Leadership? That might be a game changer. |
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I think he can be challenged now. But I think we have enough turmoil for now.
2 rudderless parties veering towards the rocks. |
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Why would they challenge him he has wiped the floor with them twice
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Because he probably is an electoral liability, certainly a block to Labour getting a majority.
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.... to Labour having a shot at getting a majority I mean.
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They said he had no chance in 2015 when he was 100-1 and he won , the same thing happened when he easily beat owen smith , they said he would be slaughtered by chairman may in 2017 election , labour got nearly 12 milion votes the biggest share since 1945
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Of course if you listen to the rancid right wing bilionaire press and the new shock jock tory radio balloons then yes they all say he is a czech spy , a threat to the country , a terorist sympathiser etc then you will brainwashed
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The tory lie machine and the Establishment want a Labour Leader somebody who will implement trickle down policies and behave themselves ffs
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Somebody like Tory Blair
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JC's achievements of winning the leadership contest and then defeating those who tried to remove him are incredible.
Could he win a majority? I doubt it. Could he form a coalition? Most certainly. A united Tory party could send Labour into oblivion. But they're so intent on suicide it's a case of expect the unexpected. |
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There is a huge campaign to smear and discredit him anxious. Just because you don't like or agree with it that doesn't mean it has no effect. Many people will not be voting Labour because of what they perceive about him through information garnered in the press, tv, radio and MP's of all political persuasions including and especially his own MP's!
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Yes unfortunately you are correct wd
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I think though a lot of the younger generation are not interested in that sort of negative campaigning , most of the probably were not even born , they tune into social media more to access the news
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young people are getting really bored of politics.
My generation have fceked it up for them and they do not seem prepared to fight for their futures! as yet! But they do seem pro Europe so let's see what transpires. Labour would do well to get the yute vote out! |
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Poor wee r souls
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Yep these young people must be hating the record unemployment and booming economy, lets get Labour in and return to the despair
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Labour announced today "Its manifesto will promise to reach a better Brexit deal, but is not expected to commit to either Leave or Remain."
HAHAHAHA WHAT A SET OF FKIN IDIOTS! |
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Whisperingdeath • September 10, 2019 4:04 PM BST
yes well nice to have a reasoned debate with you, thanks. Oh , the irony  |
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oh reynard
Make a point! Think of something original and interesting to say. Make a case for what you believe! if you can  |
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Yep these young people must be hating the record unemployment and booming economy, lets get Labour in and return to the despair
and how many of them do you think will own a house before they are 40? |
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How many of them do you think will be living with mummy and daddy?
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^^^ who cares, renting still a roof over ya head
...and i'm a landlord  |
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yeah fcek 'em! As long as I can get an Eastern European to wipe my airse when I go do lally! |