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jefferz
07 Sep 19 15:23
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The laws that were in place on the day of the referendum should be the only laws that apply to that vote.
So the new law banning a no deal should not be able to apply imho.
Applying new laws to things that happened 3 plus years ago is a dangerous move.

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By:
Escapee
When: 07 Sep 19 15:27
What's so great about Brexit?

Apart from the inflation, the  job losses and the delicious chlorinated chicken.


How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?
By:
jefferz
When: 07 Sep 19 15:30
The point is the people voted to leave so that's what should happen in a democracy whether it's great or no so great.
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Sep 19 15:32
3 years ago a no deal was a million to one according to the new pm.
3 years ago we were told it would be the easiest deal in human history.
By:
Escapee
When: 07 Sep 19 15:38
@jefferz   


How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?
By:
jefferz
When: 07 Sep 19 15:45
I didn't,for example, vote for Tony Blair in the past but accepted he was PM.I knew some people would benefit and some wouldn't.
Depends on your circumstances.
To answer your question i don't think it will make much difference to me.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 19 15:48
what they should do is make a criminal act out of lying to the electorate, democracy is only as good as the validity of the information given to those who vote.

so 'democracy' here isnt worth a damn thing
By:
Emitdeb
When: 07 Sep 19 15:54
We're not leaving the EU this year or next year.. or ever imo.. None of this BS concerning no deal on the table or off is an issue... They have conspired to keep us in. hth.
By:
jefferz
When: 07 Sep 19 16:03
I predict major civil unrest,riots etc after 31 OCT from both sides of the argument.
By:
macarony
When: 07 Sep 19 18:17
I disagree it is only a small vocal argumentative fringe on both the remain and leave that have a problem, unfortunatley these people dispropotionatley in a position of authority
By:
Angoose
When: 07 Sep 19 18:24
Such is the deep understanding of the issues, I predict a widespread outbreak of calm and civility.
By:
1st time poster
When: 07 Sep 19 18:30
people forgetting that boris no longer has anywhere near a majority so when commons resits after eu council,the opposition can play their joker,bring the government down and install a leader to pass the extension through the EU, the EU no this they were dialled by the opposition,the ragbag opposition as described by right wing media,nutjobs have ran rings around cummings in the last week
By:
bigmo
When: 07 Sep 19 18:32
What's so great about Brexit?

Apart from the inflation, the  job losses and the delicious chlorinated chicken.


How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?


Well first and foremost. It'll get right up your nose which will be extremely pleasing. I'm so bored with this ****fest that I may not come back to this, but you get my gist?
By:
1st time poster
When: 07 Sep 19 18:36
to quote mrs may the only way the ultra,s can take an extension of the table is to vote for a deal LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh, cummings is my new hero tearing the tory party and bojo apart hour by hour,it gets better each news bulletin enraged brexiteers screeching down the screen, my cherry on the cake is

come on monsieur francopis where are you are you frit get on tv your grandfather francois is ashamed of you,where are you hiding,are you filling out your Brexit party application form LaughLaughLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 07 Sep 19 18:37
the front page of the express is a mass of screeching,fuming spittle, Laugh
By:
Escapee
When: 07 Sep 19 18:57
@bigmo

Have I offended you?


(if I have, I dunno how, nor had any intention too)



maybe I missed an amusing nuance in your post, but your response seems rather abrasive towards me.

I thought "How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?" was quite a good question.
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Sep 19 19:29
Escapee • September 7, 2019 6:57 PM BST
I thought "How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?" was quite a good question.

I thought "How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?" was quite typical of the questions asked by remainers who seek to ignore the fact that they lost the referendum and are attempting the usual "Leavers didn't know what they were voting for" angle .
Bottom line : 'Leave' won by securing a majority of the votes cast and therefore , whether any of them will personally benefit or otherwise , we as a nation should leave forthwith . If nobody benefits and the country is plunged into an infinite chasm of depression and hardship then so be it . Then , and only then , can those who wish or wished to remain turn their anger , ire and venom onto the leavers . Until then they should keep their opinions and what they perceive to be clever or awkward questions to themselves . Their opinions have been irrelevant since May 2016 !

nb. I am not a 'leaver' . I didn't vote leave and have no definitive view as to our membership of the EU . My only interest is in seeing democracy (Will of the People) implemented in full .
By:
Angoose
When: 07 Sep 19 19:35
Until then they should keep their opinions and what they perceive to be clever or awkward questions to themselves . Their opinions have been irrelevant since May 2016 !

How very democratic.
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Sep 19 19:44
Angoose , I'm sick and tired of the division that has been caused by 3 years of procrastination . If we had left the EU at the earliest opportunity the country would be in a far more harmonious place than it is currently .
I stand by my words you have quoted and highlighted . Democracy should have been implemented on or soon after the referendum count was completed . That was democratic , not the ensuing mud slinging from both sides .
By:
1st time poster
When: 07 Sep 19 20:10
if it had left the day after we,d still be in all sorts of trade,security,immigration talks, this is just a bill to leave or ano deal followed by years and years of talking
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Sep 19 18:15

Sep 7, 2019 -- 4:03PM, jefferz wrote:


I predict major civil unrest,riots etc after 31 OCT from both sides of the argument.


Hope so would love to see the police horses baton charging the sour-faced brexiters.

By:
bigmo
When: 09 Sep 19 19:18
Escapee. No, you haven't offended me and apologies are in order here. I'm just so fed up with this whole Brexit thing. Our politicians have totally failed us here. We are a laughing stock around the world because of it. People are so angry and so entrenched with their views it's just become pathetic.

Just looked up and I see dave1357 posted

Hope so would love to see the police horses baton charging the sour-faced brexiters.

What a sad sorry individual to actually post that. In his defence, there are others on the leave side that feel the same. I so fed up with the whole immigration, Muslim, Brexit thing that'll I'll no longer be posting on any of these subjects.
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Sep 19 22:01
Well what do you expect?  I suppose you cheered when Thatcher's police beat down the miners?
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