How has Boris's first week in parliament as PM gone so far?

He can resign tomorrow as pm , and stay as Tory party leader

That means he will be leader in any new election , to be elected as pm

Any problem with that ?

How does he resign without a no confidence vote?

Who becomes PM....sooty?

It can be an interim pm , sooty or even Corbyn
That’s fine

Dusty it’s like any job , if you want to resign then you hand in your notice

If you get sacked that’s a vote of no confidence
Don’t confuse one situation with the other

But how does the tory leader resign from PM and stay tory leader, while in government?

an interim pm , or sooty , or ken Clarke or Corbyn
That’s fine

so whos the government with sooty as PM?

Now you can be sure Boris will not ask for another extension
Let Corbyn do it

there will be no interim PM, that was offered and blown out. Boris is buggered all ends up

How is he if he has resigned as pm , but not as Tory leader
That’s ideal

so somebody just steps in because boris has decimated his own party's slender majority?

If the Tory party and Boris refuse to ask for an extension
No one can force them

If the Labour Party or libdems want to they will have to do it themselves

They are in power....until the government is disolved its their duty
or do they only want to do wednesdays and fridays?
ffs

No , they are not in power if they are being forced to do something they do t want to
Of this magnitude
If they want it fine , then Corbyn or Clarke or sooty can ask

The tories do not have to do anything between now and Oct

This isnt a game, they cant choose only the fluff and hand over the tricky stuff
They need a 2/3rd vote for an election, until that point they are in power

No. they can’t be forced to stay in power if they are being forced to do something against the parties wishes
Do you know stormont hasn’t been in place for over 2 years ?

It’s been closed , I think close to 3 years
Well the tories can stand down for 3 weeks or 3 months
If necessary

Until we have an election

Now by my calculations we are out of the EU by then

So you are saying they can choose to renage rather than disolve government and remain a legitimate political party ready to fight an election, with a PM who had his face wiped while being PM, put him in a box until the election is called and have anybody who wishes to do the stuff the tories dont like?

This is getting more remarkable by the minute

So will it be an election , or not ?

Of course  , the tories can step down from power tomorrow
Why not ?

If the tories abandon power I dont see why that would matter no f ucker will vote for them who run off over the hill cos they didnt like it

That means an election , if you’re stupid enough to blame the tories that’s up to you

I'd be stupid for suggesting people would look on the tories as feckless because they just p issed off home and denied it was their responsibility and took their ball home?

There are set ways an election can be triggered....dispair isnt one of those ways as far as Im aware

Let’s get  this clear not the Labour Party or  the libdems nor anyone else is going to make the Tory party do something it doesn’t want to do

Come on then John Wayne
Lets see what you got

Try and understand that simple fact

My money is Boris having no option but to fall on his sword and an election being called after 31st Oct (or very close to it)

Theres no other conceivable way in rational world

Why should he ?( of course there has to be an election)

Tories renage power ffs

Why should anyone outside the Tory party decide its leader

Because he cant disolve government simply because the job turned out not to fit into his delicate sensibilities

Im not bothering any more ffs
Go look at the ways an election is possible

There will have to be an election , it matters not when
And Boris will be the Tory leader
Why not ?

Time will tell

There will have to be an election
But it wont be just because the tories want one f ucking hell

They are an ineffectual dead duck who cant pass water right now

The tories don’t want an election , don’t be stupid

The tories dont want one?

They HAVE to have one
Boris might say he doesnt want one, but boris cant piss straight let alone be sincere

Dusty the tories don’t want an election they have to have one

So what and your point is ?

what the fook are you talking about?
go back to your bottle of meths ffs

You’re not making much sense
What’s wrong with an election ?

Have you something against elections  ?

Nothing
But the tories need it more than anyone else atm so they wont get one cos the tories cant demand one
Fixed term parliament rules dictate
They'd have to vote no confidence in themselves and thats political suicide

Why is it ?

Go and find out, its only been a rule for 10 years

I know that.  I’m asking why is it political suicide to want an election?

To vote no confidence in yourselves in order to get one
Why would anyone vote for them after that?
Im done schooling you

Let me explain, they will be voting no confidence in themselves not because they have no confidence in themselves

But to get an election , understand ?

Too subtle ?

Tea time

They would be voting no confidence because they sacked their own MPs and lost a majority
There own infighting would have caused it
Not exactly a selling point

Now Im done with you cos as hard as I try...you really do my **** in man

Sep 6, 2019 -- 5:41PM, dustybin wrote:

what the fook are you talking about?go back to your bottle of meths ffs

Sorry dusty any credence you may have had goes out of the window with posts like that.

Play nice guys,

Well thats unfortunate
Lfc tries to be condescending while saying stuff I cant even recognise
He thinks boris can call in sick for a bit while s hit settles down the take over again when somebody else has mopped up

Fair enough.

This is how it works , the government decides what to do , not Parliament
Parliament cannot force the elected government , the tories , to do anything it doesn’t want to do

When you understand that basic fundamental of democracy you will understand that boris cannot be forced to ask for and extension after oct31
And the tories can’t be forced to ask for it if they don’t want to   , no law or anything else can make them

Try and understand that

it's all gone very swimmingly for Bozo; as for "losing his brother" he won't be crying too many tears over that; far too many dummies on here & the outside world take way too much notice of the MSM

I switch off to anything that is said by MSM.

How do you see this panning out now Bap?

Hey HGS, I owe you an apology, meds and red wine a bad combination, not an excuse but a reason, sorry bud, also JC.

No worries fox. Hope all is well.

All good thanks.

What will happen next ? Boris to stand for the Brexit party next election

Now that would be summat!

Brexit party wins election , game over :)

lfc1971 • September 6, 2019 6:58 PM BST
This is how it works , the government decides what to do , not Parliament

Why all the faffing around then? They know what they want to do but can't. Why not? Because of Parliament.

That’s true , my point is Parliament cannot tell the government what to do

It can of course stop things , if it has the numbers

But Parliament doesn’t tell the government  , the tories , that they must go to Brussels
No , they don’t

And no law can make them

It’s merely an exercise in logical thinking

I don’t know the law , but I can think logically

Hey HGS, I owe you an apology, meds and red wine a bad combination, not an excuse but a reason, sorry bud, also JC.


It's Friday man! Say what you fceking like! I know we always disagree but if a man can't take meds and red wine well, what is the point!

I don't take drugs much anymore but if any Doctor said to me don't drink when taking these I took it as a good way to save some money but to be fair I never got drink any quicker. I think it might just be an example of the EU Conspiracy!

Hey Whisperingdeath, I'm not aware we disagree all the time, fair play to you if we do, now where is that bottle,

I am on the rum and coke!

Sorry boxing. Not sure what you wrote to upset folk tbf. Hope it wasn't bad in case I get banned!

Boris to drop in to Old Trafford tomorrow on his way back to London, rumour is that he will be the concussion substitute for Ben Stokes

Can't recall exactly, but I'm sure it was uncomplimentary phish.

What is Boris going to do now...seek a deal with the EU?

We cannot now leave without a deal it has been passed into law

Or do we just stay in the EU?

or do we go on the drink with Stokes!

LFC

Never mind all your cracked pottedness these are the only options as I can see

By Monday the bill will have got royal ascent and therefore becomes law demanding whoever is responsible at the time to request an extension.
He could
1.Refuse....go on I double dare you ffs
2. Attempt to pass a bill through the house that negates the fixed term parliament.....how? Who is going to help him cos non of the opposition will.
3. Keep badgering the opposition with attempts to get 2/3rds to vote for an election......the opposition have him where they want him, why would they break rank now?
4. Get a deal....now you are having a laugh, even his fans don’t realistically think this will happen
5. Try and get an EU member to break rank and veto an extension.....then the EU will look responsible for ‘no deal’ default, why would they risk it when it’s a British brain f uck?
6. Resign
7. Send somebody else and pretend it isn’t him going back on his word.....(this is actually the most likely, but the electorate won’t buy that as a ruse, he’d have got his bluff called and everyone knows it) He said there would deffo be a deal, what odds did he offer again?
8. Recall May’s deal.....somebody tried that the other day, it got trounced.
9. Vote no confidence in themselves.....ahhahahahahaha is only thing I’m going to say on that, hang no I’ll add....ahahahahahahahah

That pony you spat out about government not being controlled by parliament is wrong. Parliament hold the cards now the government can barely break wind

You are incorrect in regard to your point 8.

May’s deal could well be brought back for another try, highly debatable if it would pass, but an option and the Benn Bill amendment makes provision for just that.

Dustybin there is knowledge , and there is understanding
don’t confuse one with the other , that’s where you are going wrong
Angoose also

Matthew d'Ancona, editor of the slow-news outlet Tortoise, told Newsnight Mr Johnson had had a "disastrous week in political showbusiness".

"One minute you're Stormzy and the next minute you wake up and you're Michael Barrymore. 

"That's what's happened. He was sold to us as this guy who is a winner, he could do all the things that Theresa May hadn't been able to do, and he could unite the party and the country by the sheer bringing of confidence and charisma.

"He's like a person pressing the button on the app on his phone in fury, saying why is it not happening the way that he wants it to.

"The reason is that Brexit is fabulously difficult to achieve. We are untangling 40 years of legal, constitutional and commercial arrangements."

Boris is just bluff, bluster and bullsh!te.

brian cloughs 44 days at leeds would be regarded as a triumph in compariosn.

Sep 5, 2019 -- 11:46AM, lfc1971 wrote:

He hasn’t put a foot wrong , so far

That tickled me so well done lfc.

When backed up with:
lfc1971 • September 7, 2019 1:36 AM BST
Dustybin there is knowledge , and there is understanding

From a person (lfc) who has no understanding of anything is rich.

charlie

It does seem strange that the Tories elected Boris Johnson as leader

and then oppose everything he tries to do

Unless that was the reason????

Amber Rudd quits the cabinet and the party.
That poor puppy could be in big trouble

That dog is dead ffs

I see on the red button today..A no-deal Brexit would be a failure

Boris Johnson says, in Dublin to speak to Irish PM LeoV aradkar

A bit of a change from last week, when he wanted one???????????

Trying to persuade Irish PM to help him out of the mess he is in I should think