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TheBetterBettor
30 Aug 19 15:55
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Couple of years ago a person with dementia caused the death of fellow drivers by driving the wrong way up the motorway. ExcitedConfusedConfusedConfused
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Report TheBetterBettor August 30, 2019 3:58 PM BST
Apologies... That first 'smiley' was a typo.
Report Reynard August 30, 2019 6:38 PM BST
Let them park anywhere they want ............... then clamp them on Health & Safety grounds Mischief
Report Dr Crippen August 30, 2019 8:37 PM BST
Everyone that drives the wrong way down a motorway doesn't suffer from dementia.

How many police chases involve people that suffer from dementia is more to the point?
Report UBLE/REGY August 30, 2019 8:42 PM BST
Yes they will be letting blind drivers get blue badges next...shocking
Report akabula August 30, 2019 8:44 PM BST
Can't fathom why they qualify for a disabled parking badge.
I always though it was related to a persons mobility.
Report Super Hans August 30, 2019 8:46 PM BST
Stress and anxiety suffers will be next to benefit.
Report Dr Crippen August 30, 2019 9:08 PM BST
Of course it depends on ow far the dementia has progressed.

Someone with early onset might be perfectly safe driving, while an advanced case could be quite at a loss what to do if put in a certain position. 
But they tend to drive slower which prevents them from getting in awkward situations.

Of course older drivers make some right blunders, but that goes for all drivers.
Report akabula August 30, 2019 9:15 PM BST
But why consider any for the badge DrC.
Does dementia restrict a persons mobility?
Report UBLE/REGY August 30, 2019 9:19 PM BST
Driving tends to be mechanical, so dementia may not affect that...

But things like driving the wrong way up the motorway....entirely possible...remembering where they are may be a problem

It is slightly concerning...depends how bad it is
Report Dr Crippen August 30, 2019 9:19 PM BST
Very good point akabula.

But most of these badge holders don't have restricted mobility.

If fact I've never seen one get out of a vehicle displaying a badge and appear to be incapacitated in any way.
Report Crisp77 August 30, 2019 9:35 PM BST
Don't worry. They'll forget where they parked.
Report UBLE/REGY August 30, 2019 9:41 PM BST
Laugh crisp
Report Dr Crippen August 30, 2019 9:48 PM BST
I worked with a chap who had polio as a child.
His one leg was withered, it was little more than skin a bone, and he had to wear a club shoe to compensate for the four or five inches it was shorter than the other.
Watching him walk he was all over the place, well down on his bad side, but he made the best of it.

He couldn't get a disabled badge for that, because when they asked him how far he could walk he answered the questions truthfully, and it was too far for their tick box mentality.
It's like asking someone how far they can crawl. Depends on how motivated you are.

If he'd lied he'd have got a badge easily.
Report UBLE/REGY August 30, 2019 11:04 PM BST
Anybody who gets one gets a guaranteed parking space Dr Crippen...a very strong motive for someSad
Report casemoney August 30, 2019 11:15 PM BST
Phil  has not been seen for months Since his Crash , Probably Caged ..

Serious cases have to be under Lock and key Sad

Doesn't seem the best Idea to be allowing them to drive ?
Report TheBetterBettor August 31, 2019 7:52 AM BST
DrC

Onset or 'fullset', would you allow grandpa dementia to take the kids out for a Sunday run?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 31, 2019 10:43 AM BST
my mam had dementia, parking close to the store when shopping would have helped me dad
who couldnt leave her at home nor in the car.

its a dreadful disease, and any little help to carers will be most welcom.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 31, 2019 10:46 AM BST
we stopped mam from driving but she always forgot she had dementia and forgot
she couldnt drive. more drama everytime she wanted to go out.

had to hide keys and park car so she couldnt see it from house

as i said, its a truely dreadful disease.
Report Dr Crippen August 31, 2019 11:28 AM BST
Don't be so quick to judge TheBetterBettor, you might have early onset dementia yourself and don't realise.
Dementia can start in your thirties.

If you're over seventy and your doctor doesn't think you are fit to drive, you won't get a license unless you lie on your application.

As for allowing my grandchildren out for a Sunday drive, I'd certainly prefer them to be in the care of someone with slight memory loss, than a testosterone-fuelled numbskull who takes every corner on two wheels.
Report blackbarn August 31, 2019 3:50 PM BST
Oh dear!  The Blue Badge is not only for drivers even though is linked to the person and not a vehicle. The person does not even need to have to have a driving licence.  My father is 93, has mild dementia AND Parkinsons Disease. He is otherwise in "good" shape physically and mentally.  He has a Blue Badge which is used very occasionally when required and when he is being driven by others. Hth
Report casemoney August 31, 2019 4:06 PM BST
Yes ,ideal for Sufferers carers and family.
Report blackbarn August 31, 2019 4:17 PM BST
Correct casemoney!!   That is exactly its purpose for those "sufferers" unable to drive. Can be anyone though, Taxis, Friends etc. In fact anyone accompanied by the "sufferer".  Hth
Report akabula August 31, 2019 11:28 PM BST
Yes but it is issued because of the poor mobility of the recipient and dementia I don't think impairs ones mobility.
Report themightymac September 1, 2019 12:45 AM BST
Blue badges are not restricted to people who have limited mobility. Persons who are a risk to themselves or other people qualify.

Someone with dementia is at risk every time they leave the home. So they qualify.

You can`t take your eyes of them for a minute.
Report akabula September 1, 2019 12:50 AM BST
I know Mac my Mother was a sufferer.
My sister looked after her but I would at times take her to the shops.
We parked up and walked as she was as fit as a fiddle otherwise.
Report themightymac September 1, 2019 12:54 AM BST
Sorry to hear that Aka. It`s a terrible illness. Experienced it at close range also.
Report akabula September 1, 2019 1:00 AM BST
My Mothers long dead but it was my sister who stepped up as it were and looked after her aided by her grown up children who thankfully lived nearby.
Big game tomorrow. Had we lost v Legia I'd have bet celtic. On CS 2-1 but it could go either way.
Report themightymac September 1, 2019 1:11 AM BST
I would agree. Wouldn`t surprise me who won or if it ended a draw.

Legia was a hard tie to get through. Celtic were impressive but AIK not as good as Warsaw.

Not often you get 9/4 on Celtic in a league match though, so worth a few quid at the price.
Report themightymac September 1, 2019 1:12 AM BST
Dementia effects not only the poor person with it but also the immediate family.
Report Dr Crippen September 1, 2019 12:22 PM BST
One Tesco I use has these parking bays for disabled people.
Yet the store itself is massive, and they're constantly moving the stuff around to make you walk even further to find it. 
So they save the disabled walking a few yards on the car park, then make them walk three times as far looking for their stuff once they get in the place.

Which is hilarious - unless of course you genuinely have difficulty walking then you'd most likely find it infuriating.

I injured my foot, and had to avoided the store altogether due to the size of the place and the walking involved.
Yet the disabled bays are nearly always full.
Report Lady Faye Verrit September 2, 2019 9:14 PM BST
Ok....time (as they say) to stand up and be counted!

I have a blue badge as I have "Peripheral Neuropathy"....

I also was asked how far I could walk, but I explained that it wasn't a stamina thing, but the fact that I have no feeling in my feet,
which means I have to walk slowly, and very carefully!

If I trip I fall, as I can't recover and, just to prove the point, I attached photos of two occasions when I ended up in hospital.

Stepping onto a kerb, and worse stepping down, is scary and, on a couple of occasions, kind passers by have had to help me.

I do not abuse my badge and, for example, when I go to the "Tesco Express" there are only two disabled spaces, which I don't use
if there are other spaces free, as a short walk, and no kerbs.
Report akabula September 2, 2019 10:32 PM BST
You have a problem with mobility LFV I don't see any issues with that.
I have a similar condition caused by diabetes, maybe not as severe as yours though.
Report akabula September 2, 2019 10:34 PM BST
I don't have a badge though. Wouldn't qualify.
Report Catford Toteboard September 2, 2019 10:59 PM BST
Yes its for the carer also. When my late wife was dying of cancer we applied for a blue badge so that I could get somewhere to park when  I visited her in hospital or was taking her to appointments. Despite a note from the consultant and one from a nurse, Lewisham Council were insistent that she attend for an assessment. Poor woman had enough appointments and declined. We just started taking cabs everywhere. Yes, people who care for dementia sufferers should get blue badges. They've got enough to deal with without having search for miles around a hospital looking for somewhere to park.
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 10:19 PM BST
Can't fathom why they qualify for a disabled parking badge.

coz your a **** thats my only possible understanding.
i can't for the life of me understand what type of **** you are oh and that goes for the op aswell
Report akabula September 6, 2019 10:58 PM BST
Ha Ha pan seems an angry wee man.
Wonder what his other names are.
Report TheBetterBettor September 6, 2019 10:59 PM BST
Who knows... Triggered people may be next in line for the free disabled parking passes
Report TheBetterBettor September 6, 2019 11:00 PM BST
Who knows... Triggered people may be next in line for the free disabled parking passes
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 11:02 PM BST
so you tae piss out of people with dementia  wow
Report akabula September 6, 2019 11:03 PM BST
No just you. Laugh
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 11:04 PM BST
wow just wow
Report akabula September 6, 2019 11:06 PM BST
offered to meet you before aka the offer is still there

LaughLaughLaugh The keyboard warrior returns. What was your name again?
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 11:08 PM BST
why do you despise people with dementia and why won't you meet me
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 11:09 PM BST
you can bring your sister
Report akabula September 6, 2019 11:11 PM BST
Your an angry wee man pan.
Report pan07 September 6, 2019 11:15 PM BST
yes when twats talk bollocks who have no idea what dementia does to familys and talk bollocks about something as trivial as a blue badge
Report casemoney September 7, 2019 12:12 AM BST
I know exactly what is does to Family, Mate of Mine died of a massive Heart Attackc(38) due to the Stress of watching his father who had got the disease in his 50s and by the time he hit 60 could not even recognise his own son ..

Never Mind transporting these people around , its the Family need looking after ,Stress of having to look after sufferers for years is immense ..

There should an end of Life option for sufferers Simular to opting into Donating Body parts , I know what box I would be
Ticking when of sound mind .. Once a Person hits 80 if they have not a clue who they are never mind any one' else its time to go ,The financial Burden on Family or State  of looking after these poor people is Rediculous ......

I have personally Known a couple of Sufferers , I would not want to end up in that Condition .......
WTF would anyone want to live out their life in such a Condition Sad
Report pan07 September 7, 2019 3:33 AM BST
wtf would a **** want to be jealous about  a blue badge about? says alot about tory ****.
Report pan07 September 7, 2019 4:10 AM BST
my dad with stage 4 lung cancer has just rang me at 4am wanting to see what time we seeing my mum who has frontal lobe dementia.
congrats akabula i'll hand my blue badge in u utter ****
Report casemoney September 7, 2019 12:19 PM BST
Sad
Report impossible123 September 7, 2019 1:38 PM BST
What next? Drivers who cannot read or write?
Report Dr Crippen September 7, 2019 2:41 PM BST
I watched a programme once about people abusing disabled parking badges.
They were nabbing them one after another.
They all said they'd come to pick up the badge holder, but when they phoned the badge holder up they were miles away.
Report impossible123 September 7, 2019 3:58 PM BST
About 20 years ago a Blue Badge could be obtained from an unscrupulous council employee for a fee of about £400; keys to a council house between £2k to £5k - location dependent. They are still being abused on a regular basis in supermarkets and Inner London Boroughs - bad habits die hard.
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