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1. Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” An aluminium plane hitting a thick steel beam will have the same effect as steel beam being swung at the same speed and hitting the plane. It makes no difference which one is moving as to the effect on the plane and the beam. In both cases the thick steel beam will do damage to the plane and the beam will emerge relatively undamaged. The faster the speed at the point of impact, the more damage that will be done to the plane. Try punching a steel girder. No matter how fast your hand is traveling, you will not be able to break through it; you will eventually break your hand. It matters not if the girder is swung at your hand or you swing your hand at the girder; assuming the impact is at the same speed, the injury to your hand would be the same.
Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminium airplane with a fibreglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.
The massive core columns of the World Trade Center were anchored to bedrock. Thirty one of the columns were 36-by-16-inch box shaped columns made of two-inch thick solid steel at the foundation. Sixteen of the columns measured 52 inches by 22 inches triple thick steel boxes that were 5 inches thick at two ends matched perpendicularly with one 6 ½-inch and two 6-inch thick slabs of steel.
The box columns reduced in size and thickness at the upper floors, but were still substantial steel columns for which an aircraft of any size would not pose any serious threat. The minimum thickness was 2.25 inches for the columns between the impact zone for the alleged plane that supposedly hit Tower 2 (South Tower) between the 77th and 85th floors.
The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would explode. It would not enter the tower and then explode. The plane would simply be obliterated to pieces by the steel box columns and steel and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of the tower.
Newton’s First Law of Motion: “A body remains at rest or in motion with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.” The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
So over to you MEXICO. LETS HAVE YOUR REWRITTEN LAWS OF PHYSICS so i can forward them to NASA and they can rewrite the history books ( Again )
Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminium airplane with a fibreglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.
The massive core columns of the World Trade Center were anchored to bedrock. Thirty one of the columns were 36-by-16-inch box shaped columns made of two-inch thick solid steel at the foundation. Sixteen of the columns measured 52 inches by 22 inches triple thick steel boxes that were 5 inches thick at two ends matched perpendicularly with one 6 ½-inch and two 6-inch thick slabs of steel.
The box columns reduced in size and thickness at the upper floors, but were still substantial steel columns for which an aircraft of any size would not pose any serious threat. The minimum thickness was 2.25 inches for the columns between the impact zone for the alleged plane that supposedly hit Tower 2 (South Tower) between the 77th and 85th floors.
The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would explode. It would not enter the tower and then explode. The plane would simply be obliterated to pieces by the steel box columns and steel and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of the tower.
Newton’s First Law of Motion: “A body remains at rest or in motion with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.” The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
So over to you MEXICO. LETS HAVE YOUR REWRITTEN LAWS OF PHYSICS so i can forward them to NASA and they can rewrite the history books ( Again )
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Death by velocity................
A bit like Smithy.............
A bit like Smithy.............
ive been quiting sweets and chocs etc as i workout quite a bit, however i succumbed to a bag of dolly mixture and now i feel sick........
JC
The leaning tower experiment was supposedly conducted by Galileo (of Bohemian rhapsody fame. Little evidence he actually conducted the experiment there but experiment has been repeated at different locations countless times.
Pect
I am older than 14 years old - I have filled in a Betfair "know your customer " form & they believe I am older than 18 years old just because I provided them with evidence.
Peck - I don't like to repeat myself- unfortunately the uneducated tin foil hat loons refuse to answer simple questions. I noticed that you didn't bother to answer that simple Kinetic energy question.
The leaning tower experiment was supposedly conducted by Galileo (of Bohemian rhapsody fame. Little evidence he actually conducted the experiment there but experiment has been repeated at different locations countless times.
Pect
I am older than 14 years old - I have filled in a Betfair "know your customer " form & they believe I am older than 18 years old just because I provided them with evidence.
Peck - I don't like to repeat myself- unfortunately the uneducated tin foil hat loons refuse to answer simple questions. I noticed that you didn't bother to answer that simple Kinetic energy question.
I am aware you didn't bother to answer a simple Physics question on a thread about Physics.
Thank you for posting that reply. Is your hat shiny enough?
Thank you for posting that reply. Is your hat shiny enough?
It's that time of year and I was watching the seeds getting blown off some thistles (or dandelions etc do same), and the wind was catching them and they were going waaaay into the distance. Interesting to think that a thistle plant growing on the moon, the seeds would just drop straight down same speed as a cannon ball.
That's probably why they don't grow there.
That's probably why they don't grow there.
Aug 17, 2019 -- 8:57PM, detraveller wrote:
Eng lose or draw?
draw
The girder the plane hit was anchored to the rest of the building so that makes the physics questions null and void doesn't it?
Or at least changes it to a different aspect.
Talking of interesting physics, I find it interesting that all 3 buildings didn't topple. They fell into their own footprint. One of the buildings never got hit by a plane but still fell which is weird.
Some conspiracy theories are probably true, what are the odds of every single conspiracy theory being false? Very very high I would say.
What are the odds of a tall buiding falling into it's own footprint? Very high I would say, so for 3 its very high * very high * very high, so probably billions if not trillions to one against. This versus the odds of it being controlled demolitions. You choose.
Or at least changes it to a different aspect.
Talking of interesting physics, I find it interesting that all 3 buildings didn't topple. They fell into their own footprint. One of the buildings never got hit by a plane but still fell which is weird.
Some conspiracy theories are probably true, what are the odds of every single conspiracy theory being false? Very very high I would say.
What are the odds of a tall buiding falling into it's own footprint? Very high I would say, so for 3 its very high * very high * very high, so probably billions if not trillions to one against. This versus the odds of it being controlled demolitions. You choose.
Aug 17, 2019 -- 12:06AM, Mexico wrote:
June Stop crying and answer the question on a Physics thread which any 14 year old of average intelligence could answer.Btw I can answer your off topic question.The "air defences " we're not "down" as your bias question claimed.Actually the "air defences " we're not designed to shoot down passenger jets. There had been high jacking before 2001 & the "norm" was to fly to an airport rather than crashing into a building.So any chance you could attempt to answer a simple Physics question on a Physics thread?Come on Juice- a child could do it.
So protocol was to just let it crash into the pentagon
Jesus wept
Aug 17, 2019 -- 6:33PM, Charlie wrote:
JuceI've tried watching the video you gave a link to and found it the most boring thing I've ever watched. I defy anyone to follow what she's on about. If you call that evidence a plane never crashed into the Pentagon then you must have followed all the 'quotes' she gives. I have actually looked at a good few things she said and can't agree with her. She's giving her opinion which should be taken at face value and not as fact.
Charlie, can you answer why it was allowed to crash into the most heavily guarded facility in the world without any resistance?
Especially after two planes had just rammed into the twin towers!!
I think the video is easy to follow.
How did the plane not hit any obstacles on the way to hitting the pentagon? There are lights on the descent path which would have taken the wings off.
Amazing how easily people are brainwashed into believing the official stories from govts
People moan daily about how vile & corrupt our politicians are yet lap up these stories like plebs
People moan daily about how vile & corrupt our politicians are yet lap up these stories like plebs
Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, old man pedo Bush
A few of the most heinous people ever to come out of the good old US
They couldn't give two fcuks about killing people for power
Look into their involvement in aspartame, that will tell you all you need to know about those cùnts
A few of the most heinous people ever to come out of the good old US
They couldn't give two fcuks about killing people for power
Look into their involvement in aspartame, that will tell you all you need to know about those cùnts
No planes crashed into the Twin Towers or the Pentagon
Watched films of the so-called second plane over and over again.
Sorry to tell you but it's CGI and not very good CGI.
That's the only way you get a plane to crash through a building like it's slicing through butter.
Only need a few people to say they saw planes and everyone agrees.
All eye witness accounts are from actors and the deluded.
Ask yourselves this question....
WHY IS THERE NO CCTV FOOTAGE OF A PLANE CRASHING INTO THE PENTAGON...PROBABLY THE MOST SECURITY CONSCIOUS BUILDING ON PLANET EARTH?!
You can't pinch a packet of sweets from the corner shop without being caught on camera.
Watched films of the so-called second plane over and over again.
Sorry to tell you but it's CGI and not very good CGI.
That's the only way you get a plane to crash through a building like it's slicing through butter.
Only need a few people to say they saw planes and everyone agrees.
All eye witness accounts are from actors and the deluded.
Ask yourselves this question....
WHY IS THERE NO CCTV FOOTAGE OF A PLANE CRASHING INTO THE PENTAGON...PROBABLY THE MOST SECURITY CONSCIOUS BUILDING ON PLANET EARTH?!
You can't pinch a packet of sweets from the corner shop without being caught on camera.
Every conspiracy nutter starts with Why...
Great that you can ask a question that many don't have an answer to. But that doesnt prove anything.
Its just a good question thats all.
Great that you can ask a question that many don't have an answer to. But that doesnt prove anything.
Its just a good question thats all.
Only need a few people to say they saw planes and everyone agrees.
All eye witness accounts are from actors and the deluded.
wtf
All eye witness accounts are from actors and the deluded.
wtf
Why do these tin foil hat loons post so many lies
The Pentagon is not the "most heavily guarded building in the world "
FFS - it is an office building- they had tours open to the public
You did not even have to pre-book. Turn up, show your passport, have you bag X-rayed & walk through a metal detector.
And of course the son of God fans - won't bother to answer the most basic of Physics questions on a thread about "Interesting Physics " & Newton's laws of motion.
The Pentagon is not the "most heavily guarded building in the world "
FFS - it is an office building- they had tours open to the public
You did not even have to pre-book. Turn up, show your passport, have you bag X-rayed & walk through a metal detector.
And of course the son of God fans - won't bother to answer the most basic of Physics questions on a thread about "Interesting Physics " & Newton's laws of motion.
Aug 18, 2019 -- 12:49PM, Mcginty wrote:
No planes crashed into the Twin Towers or the PentagonWatched films of the so-called second plane over and over again.Sorry to tell you but it's CGI and not very good CGI.That's the only way you get a plane to crash through a building like it's slicing through butter.Only need a few people to say they saw planes and everyone agrees.All eye witness accounts are from actors and the deluded.Ask yourselves this question....WHY IS THERE NO CCTV FOOTAGE OF A PLANE CRASHING INTO THE PENTAGON...PROBABLY THE MOST SECURITY CONSCIOUS BUILDING ON PLANET EARTH?!You can't pinch a packet of sweets from the corner shop without being caught on camera.
If it was CGI where did the planes go?
Surely the take off and landing times are logged somewhere?
This jucel guy must guy as he has researched so much on it.
Juce
Charlie, can you answer why it was allowed to crash into the most heavily guarded facility in the world without any resistance?
You make it sound as if planes crashing into the the Twin Towers Pentagon is an everyday experience. I'm prepared to accept that NORAD fcked up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_response_during_the_September_11_attacks
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5654/debunking-911-myths-planes/
How it managed to evade all the lights/structures without crashing or at least taking off the wings and blowing into pieces. Most of the fuel is stored in the wings.
Wings aren't as delicate as you may think: https://www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-...
It's also well documented that the plane did hit lights before crashing:
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/10/07/bringing-closure-to-the-911-pentagon-debate/
Why do you think that the wings should have been taken off?
You could go on and on including the size of the hole in the pentagon and the debris.
What size hole do think it should have made and what debris is missing?
https://www.thejournal.ie/fbi-pentagon-911-3318220-Mar2017/
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11-attacks-investigation-and-related-materials/9-11-images
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/history/this-priest-witnessed-the-911-pentagon-plan/
Amazing how easily people are brainwashed into believing the official stories from govts
Even more amazing that people actually believe loon tube conspiritard videos without checking the facts.
Charlie, can you answer why it was allowed to crash into the most heavily guarded facility in the world without any resistance?
You make it sound as if planes crashing into the the Twin Towers Pentagon is an everyday experience. I'm prepared to accept that NORAD fcked up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_response_during_the_September_11_attacks
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5654/debunking-911-myths-planes/
How it managed to evade all the lights/structures without crashing or at least taking off the wings and blowing into pieces. Most of the fuel is stored in the wings.
Wings aren't as delicate as you may think: https://www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-...
It's also well documented that the plane did hit lights before crashing:
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/10/07/bringing-closure-to-the-911-pentagon-debate/
Why do you think that the wings should have been taken off?
You could go on and on including the size of the hole in the pentagon and the debris.
What size hole do think it should have made and what debris is missing?
https://www.thejournal.ie/fbi-pentagon-911-3318220-Mar2017/
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11-attacks-investigation-and-related-materials/9-11-images
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/history/this-priest-witnessed-the-911-pentagon-plan/
Amazing how easily people are brainwashed into believing the official stories from govts
Even more amazing that people actually believe loon tube conspiritard videos without checking the facts.
Hopefully this thread has exposed the deniers. They simply need new laws of physics applied to suit their beliefs 
Never forget this thread, hopefully the day will come when it all gets exposed for what it is ... [b]A FAIRY TALE WRITTEN, PRODUCED AND FILMED IN HOLLYWOOD. , and the real criminals are brought to face justice.
With their defence i hold them complicit to the deceit and there4 i cannot no longer engage with them . To me they are as guilty as those that fabricated this official narrative and it makes me feel sick tbh.
Never forget those that defended the indefensible .. It will help you when looking at a thread where they have participated.
They are the Liars, the goons who never bother to research for themselves and believe anything the main stream media throw at them.
The kind of lunatics that marvel at David Blaine moving through infinity and beyond, maybe he is really Buzz Lightyear ?
My next list will expose them for what they really are so any1 who has missed this will be able to cross reference their stupidity back to here.
Good .. Its progress.. ( as i anticipated it would be ) The fraudulent liars who would deny tomorrow is the next day and yesterday was the day b4 this one.... they are all on here.
The picture publishers ( time would be better spent researching properly ), the fabricators and the braindead. They have all raised their head above the parapet and as sure as eggs are eggs I will expose them for their nonsense.
Stand by,, It is on the way,[/b].
Never forget this thread, hopefully the day will come when it all gets exposed for what it is ... [b]A FAIRY TALE WRITTEN, PRODUCED AND FILMED IN HOLLYWOOD. , and the real criminals are brought to face justice.
With their defence i hold them complicit to the deceit and there4 i cannot no longer engage with them . To me they are as guilty as those that fabricated this official narrative and it makes me feel sick tbh.
Never forget those that defended the indefensible .. It will help you when looking at a thread where they have participated.
They are the Liars, the goons who never bother to research for themselves and believe anything the main stream media throw at them.
The kind of lunatics that marvel at David Blaine moving through infinity and beyond, maybe he is really Buzz Lightyear ?
My next list will expose them for what they really are so any1 who has missed this will be able to cross reference their stupidity back to here.
Good .. Its progress.. ( as i anticipated it would be ) The fraudulent liars who would deny tomorrow is the next day and yesterday was the day b4 this one.... they are all on here.
The picture publishers ( time would be better spent researching properly ), the fabricators and the braindead. They have all raised their head above the parapet and as sure as eggs are eggs I will expose them for their nonsense.
Stand by,, It is on the way,
[/b].
You often see the stumps light up but the bails don't come off...
Yet more waffle from the Waffler.
Unfortunately no answer to the physics question.
Unfortunately no answer to the physics question.
Once again John has gone into hiding after posting complete nonsense.
The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
WTF
The Poland did slow down - it came to a complete stop in less than 100m . How is than not rapid deceleration?
The plane also had big jet engine at the moment of impact.
And besides- thousands of people saw the 2nd plane strike & loads of photos, videos live TV , radar tracking etc.
The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
WTF
The Poland did slow down - it came to a complete stop in less than 100m . How is than not rapid deceleration?
The plane also had big jet engine at the moment of impact.
And besides- thousands of people saw the 2nd plane strike & loads of photos, videos live TV , radar tracking etc.
Mexico
I was going to point that out but wanted him to answer the first question first. His whole post is nonsense.
I was going to point that out but wanted him to answer the first question first. His whole post is nonsense.
Agree Charlie
I can't understand why people who were a total failure at school & can't grasp the most basic concepts of Physics or Maths would post something claiming to be "Interesting Physics " "quoting " Newton.
I can't understand why people who were a total failure at school & can't grasp the most basic concepts of Physics or Maths would post something claiming to be "Interesting Physics " "quoting " Newton.
what a clown John W Henry. Creates a thread and then goes into hiding.
anyone else think its amazing they found the passports down on the street within about 15mins when everything else was obliterated
They tossed them out of the window for notoriety...
Allah took care of everything.....
Well not everyone though......
Allah took care of everything.....
Well not everyone though......
She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was case of insanity
Her name was Pauline, she lived in a tree
She just had an abortion
She was case of insanity
Her name was Pauline, she lived in a tree
Grant
Wasn't only one passport found in New York , a few blocks away from WTC.
As suggested could the terrorist not have simply thrown them out a cockpit window? He may have wanted everyone to know it was him who murdered thousands of people. After all what is the worst that could happen- he knew he would be dead 10 seconds later.
Funny how this "interesting Physics " thread does not contain much interesting Physics. It is as if John & the SOG fan club don't understand maths, Physics, logic or common sense.
Wasn't only one passport found in New York , a few blocks away from WTC.
As suggested could the terrorist not have simply thrown them out a cockpit window? He may have wanted everyone to know it was him who murdered thousands of people. After all what is the worst that could happen- he knew he would be dead 10 seconds later.
Funny how this "interesting Physics " thread does not contain much interesting Physics. It is as if John & the SOG fan club don't understand maths, Physics, logic or common sense.
Indeed one passport found when everything else was turned to ashes,how does that happen?
These guys couldn't even fly a single engine plane yet fly were able to fly proper planes better than veteran pilots, sound like monumental boll0cks to anyone sane? That's because it is monumental b0llocks. Mex full marks defending this sh1t but it don't wash you clown
These guys couldn't even fly a single engine plane yet fly were able to fly proper planes better than veteran pilots, sound like monumental boll0cks to anyone sane? That's because it is monumental b0llocks. Mex full marks defending this sh1t but it don't wash you clown
Terry
You know as much about rating the ability of pilots as you do about Physics.
Generally pilots are considered good pilots if the are able to take off & land .
These lads did not do either- yet you rate them as better than veteran pilots.
I assume Terry you are still totally out of your depth on that Kinetic energy Physics question which a child could answer?
As already suggested previously Terry if a document was thrown out a cockpit window before the crash it would not be destroyed in the impact because it would not be in the plane what the plane crashed.
You know as much about rating the ability of pilots as you do about Physics.
Generally pilots are considered good pilots if the are able to take off & land .
These lads did not do either- yet you rate them as better than veteran pilots.
I assume Terry you are still totally out of your depth on that Kinetic energy Physics question which a child could answer?
As already suggested previously Terry if a document was thrown out a cockpit window before the crash it would not be destroyed in the impact because it would not be in the plane what the plane crashed.
"Hans Christian Mexersen " He may have wanted everyone to know it was him who murdered thousands of people" Do you p1ss yourself laughing at this fantasy you post?
For the third time, explain how WTC7 come down exactly like the twin towers without being touched and how the BBC report it coming down 40 minutes before it actually did."Its not important" wont do or will no reply.
For the third time, explain how WTC7 come down exactly like the twin towers without being touched and how the BBC report it coming down 40 minutes before it actually did."Its not important" wont do or will no reply.
How the fcuk do you throw your passport out iof the cockpit window travelling at the speed they were. As Terrry might say 'Monumetal bow locks'
I doubt you can just wind the window down like a car window. ffs
I doubt you can just wind the window down like a car window. ffs
The way mex puts it puts me in mind of an 'Airplane' movie scenario.
Drink
Not sure you understand Physics or have ever been in a moving vehicle.
The plane is moving at great velocity in relation to the ground but those people inside the plane (I.e doomed passengers & terrorists ) are not moving relative to the plane.
If there is a small hole in the cockpit- shall we call it a window then somebody could push a small passport sized object through the window.
At the instant that passport is released it will be traveling at the same velocity as the plane but won't have any forward thrust applied & will slow down due to air resistance.
Drink, Terry. What part of putting a small object through an open window do you find impossible to comprehend?
Drink & Terry you have both forgot to answer that children's Physics question on this Physics thread. Hardly a surprise from Terry as he has managed to avoid answering any question on any thread.
https://scandinaviantraveler.com/en/aviation/ask-the-pilot-can-the-windows-really-be-opened
Not sure you understand Physics or have ever been in a moving vehicle.
The plane is moving at great velocity in relation to the ground but those people inside the plane (I.e doomed passengers & terrorists ) are not moving relative to the plane.
If there is a small hole in the cockpit- shall we call it a window then somebody could push a small passport sized object through the window.
At the instant that passport is released it will be traveling at the same velocity as the plane but won't have any forward thrust applied & will slow down due to air resistance.
Drink, Terry. What part of putting a small object through an open window do you find impossible to comprehend?
Drink & Terry you have both forgot to answer that children's Physics question on this Physics thread. Hardly a surprise from Terry as he has managed to avoid answering any question on any thread.
https://scandinaviantraveler.com/en/aviation/ask-the-pilot-can-the-windows-really-be-opened
Mad to suggest it was thrown out the window, but far more plausible is it was in the cockpit with the bad guys flying it, the cockpit was far ahead of the rest of the plane so when it all went "bang" it was riding the front of the blast wave with other debris going out the othe side.
That's a much better theory i would say 
. Throwing it out the window makes no sense, even if it was possible.
@JC The problem with your theory however, as OP clearly mentioned, is that it defies Newton's laws. The plane should have crushed on impact. End of story.
As OP said:The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would explode(there goes your passport in flames). It would not enter the tower and then explode. The plane would simply be obliterated to pieces by the steel box columns and steel and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of the tower.
Newton’s First Law of Motion: “A body remains at rest or in motion with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.” The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
. Throwing it out the window makes no sense, even if it was possible.@JC The problem with your theory however, as OP clearly mentioned, is that it defies Newton's laws. The plane should have crushed on impact. End of story.
As OP said:The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would explode(there goes your passport in flames). It would not enter the tower and then explode. The plane would simply be obliterated to pieces by the steel box columns and steel and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of the tower.
Newton’s First Law of Motion: “A body remains at rest or in motion with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.” The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.
Passports are fairly hardy heavy little things, they aren't bits of A4 paper. I'll place bets you could throw one a fair distance.
"@JC The problem with your theory however, as OP clearly mentioned, is that it defies Newton's laws."
No it doesn't and I'm not going to entertain the idiotic scientifically clueless copy/paste b/s of the OP, end of story.
"@JC The problem with your theory however, as OP clearly mentioned, is that it defies Newton's laws."
No it doesn't and I'm not going to entertain the idiotic scientifically clueless copy/paste b/s of the OP, end of story.
Aug 19, 2019 -- 8:44PM, edy wrote:
Is "Snakes on a plane" a movie worth watching?
Internet says:
GREAT movie! one of the best worst movies of all time. The hype, that doz guy gettign the tattoo..the movie itself was a riot!!!
It is, simultaneously, one of the worst and best movies I’ve ever seen. Read full review
I've never seen it. Always wondered if "sharknado" is worth a watch for being totally ridiculous.
Conditor, you are showing a better understanding of Physics & Maths than John/Terry.
You ready to solve some Newtonian differential equations?
Funny how none of the uneducated fans of the son of God are able to answer simple Physics questions on a Physics thread .
You ready to solve some Newtonian differential equations?
Funny how none of the uneducated fans of the son of God are able to answer simple Physics questions on a Physics thread .
Who’s this god person,the chap seems to be busy elsewhere.mexico?
On reflection I have been really silly thinking it is possible to pot a small object out of a window- clearly nobody would do that as littering is very naughty & if caught in Bew York the culprit could get a rather large fine.
So obviously those thousands of witnesses were wrong, the radar data was wrong, the photos were wrong, the videos were wrong, the phone calls were wrong.
After all Newton said a 300,000kg object travelling at over 100m/s will just bounce off a glass & steel building & land across the Hudson in New Jersey.
So obviously those thousands of witnesses were wrong, the radar data was wrong, the photos were wrong, the videos were wrong, the phone calls were wrong.
After all Newton said a 300,000kg object travelling at over 100m/s will just bounce off a glass & steel building & land across the Hudson in New Jersey.
Aug 19, 2019 -- 9:11PM, Just Checking wrote:
FFS Mexico is imagining numbers now!
+1
Conditor, if you have a point to make, make it clearly. The 2+2 thing that you post when you're exposed is too old. You have an opinion, say it.
I can understand it maybe hard for you, as you are a believer in OP's physics. But I can't respond if all you're going to say is 2+2 makes 4.
Aug 18, 2019 -- 2:16PM, Charlie wrote:
JuceCharlie, can you answer why it was allowed to crash into the most heavily guarded facility in the world without any resistance?You make it sound as if planes crashing into the the Twin Towers Pentagon is an everyday experience. I'm prepared to accept that NORAD fcked up.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_response_during_the_September... it managed to evade all the lights/structures without crashing or at least taking off the wings and blowing into pieces. Most of the fuel is stored in the wings.Wings aren't as delicate as you may think: https://www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-... It's also well documented that the plane did hit lights before crashing: https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/10/07/bringing-closure-to-the-911-... do you think that the wings should have been taken off?You could go on and on including the size of the hole in the pentagon and the debris.What size hole do think it should have made and what debris is missing?https://www.thejournal.ie/fbi-pentagon-911-3318220-Mar2017/https://v... how easily people are brainwashed into believing the official stories from govtsEven more amazing that people actually believe loon tube conspiritard videos without checking the facts.
Charlie, you prove my point when you say "I'm prepared to accept that NORAD fcked up"
They are not allowed to fcuk up ever...period.
NORAD's Santa Tracker Began With A Typo And A Good Sport
https://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport
https://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport
MOON MISSILES?
NORAD conducts regular testing and drills to ensure that all systems and operators are functioning properly. However, mistakes still happen. When the BMEWS was first deployed, NORAD operators underestimated its range. When the moon rose, radar reflected off of it and generated a cluster of false signals that were initially mistaken for enemy bogies. A computer adjustment solved the moon problem.
A computer glitch in 1979 began sending intermittent reports of massive numbers of Russian missiles heading toward the United States. The numbers were so outlandish that operators knew it was a glitch, but they weren't so sure a year later, when a test program was run without putting the system into test mode. Luckily, the error was discovered before any harm was done [source: Tom Stockman].
https://science.howstuffworks.com/norad3.htm
NORAD conducts regular testing and drills to ensure that all systems and operators are functioning properly. However, mistakes still happen. When the BMEWS was first deployed, NORAD operators underestimated its range. When the moon rose, radar reflected off of it and generated a cluster of false signals that were initially mistaken for enemy bogies. A computer adjustment solved the moon problem.
A computer glitch in 1979 began sending intermittent reports of massive numbers of Russian missiles heading toward the United States. The numbers were so outlandish that operators knew it was a glitch, but they weren't so sure a year later, when a test program was run without putting the system into test mode. Luckily, the error was discovered before any harm was done [source: Tom Stockman].
https://science.howstuffworks.com/norad3.htm
World War Three, by Mistake
On June 3, 1980, at about two-thirty in the morning, computers at the National Military Command Center, beneath the Pentagon, at the headquarters of the North American Air Defense Command (norad), deep within Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, and at Site R, the Pentagon’s alternate command post center hidden inside Raven Rock Mountain, Pennsylvania, issued an urgent warning: the Soviet Union had just launched a nuclear attack on the United States. The Soviets had recently invaded Afghanistan, and the animosity between the two superpowers was greater than at any other time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/world-war-three-by-mistake
On June 3, 1980, at about two-thirty in the morning, computers at the National Military Command Center, beneath the Pentagon, at the headquarters of the North American Air Defense Command (norad), deep within Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, and at Site R, the Pentagon’s alternate command post center hidden inside Raven Rock Mountain, Pennsylvania, issued an urgent warning: the Soviet Union had just launched a nuclear attack on the United States. The Soviets had recently invaded Afghanistan, and the animosity between the two superpowers was greater than at any other time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/world-war-three-by-mistake
In any system that relies on people or software there will be mistakes.
I've still got visions of a furtive looking Lesley Neilson rolling the window down, tossing the passport out and rolling the window back up
Seriously though, I just think it's highly unlikely a passport would survive a crash like that. It smacks more of a 'convenient' find imo.
It then follows if they can lie about that they can lie about anything.
Seriously though, I just think it's highly unlikely a passport would survive a crash like that. It smacks more of a 'convenient' find imo.
It then follows if they can lie about that they can lie about anything.
Wow lots more posts appeared after I posted that.
It always smacks of desperation when conspiritards go on about a thing like finding a passport. Thousands of people died, there's innumerable witnesses of what happened, detailed video of planes crashing, irrefutable evidence of the damage caused, thousands of pages of documentation, sound recordings, and so on.
Then we have: It then follows if they can lie about that they can lie about anything.
Presumably if the passport hadn't been found then you would believe the official narrative?
Of course you wouldn't you want to find something that's not there.
Then we have: It then follows if they can lie about that they can lie about anything.
Presumably if the passport hadn't been found then you would believe the official narrative?
Of course you wouldn't you want to find something that's not there.
Is it not fair not to judge Charlie then to be opinionated bye a shallow mind?
This from a guy who lives with sheep who believes sheep is the norm, baa baa .idiot
Sorry Charlie my idiosyncratic nature does not conform ,fire away?
Chaz,explain how WTC7 come down just like the twin towers but without being "flown into" , just how could the BBC report it coming down before it actually did, simple enough to answer,i mean it had to be aided with something to crash down like that,so how was it done?
The passport is very important if it was planted there as" evidence,"to make it look like someone who didn't fly the plane did, now as it was the only thing/object found there that had not been turned to ashes,it looks somewhat fishy now wouldn't you agree chaz, I mean what a stroke of luck,a trillion to one chance
Jesus wept Terry
You still haven't answered that simple Physics question on a thread called "Interesting Physics "
The passport really not imortant at all. 4 planes crashing is what is important. It made no difference if the passport was found , or destroyed. There was enough evidence to identify the guilty anyway ( I think some even boasted of their murders on a recording).
The guy could have thrown a passport out of a window. The plane would not be pressurised at that altitude, he was about to die so unlikely he would be sent to jail. What was the downside of him throwing a passport out the window.
And of course- really not very important & has f-all to do with John totally failing to understand Newton's laws of motion. Interesting to see a "Physics " problem without a single equation or a single SI unit in sight.
You still haven't answered that simple Physics question on a thread called "Interesting Physics "
The passport really not imortant at all. 4 planes crashing is what is important. It made no difference if the passport was found , or destroyed. There was enough evidence to identify the guilty anyway ( I think some even boasted of their murders on a recording).
The guy could have thrown a passport out of a window. The plane would not be pressurised at that altitude, he was about to die so unlikely he would be sent to jail. What was the downside of him throwing a passport out the window.
And of course- really not very important & has f-all to do with John totally failing to understand Newton's laws of motion. Interesting to see a "Physics " problem without a single equation or a single SI unit in sight.
Terry
This is a gambling website
Do you really think it is a trillion to one that if someone throws a passport out a window over Manhattan that it will be found and handed in.
This is a gambling website
Do you really think it is a trillion to one that if someone throws a passport out a window over Manhattan that it will be found and handed in.
The passport story is shifty and has been used in other attacks too. Passports are conveniently found near the site. Since we are dealing with suicide bombers, its never easy to prove if the passport indeed belongs to that person or just someone the government wants to frame. I can buy all the other explanations on 9/11 theories but the passport one is laughable. Of course its possible, but I don't believe that.
Passports and similar items are routinely found at plane crash sites, for example:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh17-haunting-passport-photo-5522605
https://globalnews.ca/news/5044233/ethiopian-airlines-crash-victims-belongings/
And this gives a reasoned argument:
http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh17-haunting-passport-photo-5522605
https://globalnews.ca/news/5044233/ethiopian-airlines-crash-victims-belongings/
And this gives a reasoned argument:
http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html
mex why are you here,you are totally wasted on a tin pot nobody reads forum like this.You are a liar of epic proportions and I suggest you should apply for a job as a reporter for the elite run Observer rag, the sooner the bloody better. As for no mark chaz,he needs to go on another course as he is useless.
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