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Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Stop-and-search works. We hear again and again from police that [they] need to be empowered."
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
In 2017-18, black people were 9.5 times more likely to be searched than white people, a gap which has grown in recent years.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
In 2017-18, black people were 9.5 times more likely to be searched than white people, a gap which has grown in recent years.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
Who cares about communities it is about saving lives.
Abbott is basically saying she would rather see people killed than saved.
Abbott is basically saying she would rather see people killed than saved.
This is a very difficult issue. But I think it is needed.
Police will search where they think they may find knives, there is not a lot of point in them looking where they will not
Certain communities have to accept this, if that is where the crime is most predominate, it saves lives in their communities as well.
I regard all human beings as equal regardless of any differences in race, creed or colour.
Police will search where they think they may find knives, there is not a lot of point in them looking where they will not
Certain communities have to accept this, if that is where the crime is most predominate, it saves lives in their communities as well.
I regard all human beings as equal regardless of any differences in race, creed or colour.
Abbot is silly in this, police are trying to prevent loss of life in her own communities, as well as all others.
Abbot is silly in this, police are trying to prevent loss of life in her own communities, as well as all others.
Operation Trident started in 1998 to tackle black on black gun crime. It's no longer called OT and has been swallowed up into general policing.
Political Correctness has dictated that profiling is racist. As others have said the PC mob would rather focus on that than black lives being lost.
The black population in Jamaica is of course over 90%. They have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Question for Abbott - would she advocate stop and search in Jamaica?
Political Correctness has dictated that profiling is racist. As others have said the PC mob would rather focus on that than black lives being lost.
The black population in Jamaica is of course over 90%. They have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Question for Abbott - would she advocate stop and search in Jamaica?
From @Angoose's post:
Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Stop-and-search works. We hear again and again from police that [they] need to be empowered."
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
In 2017-18, black people were 9.5 times more likely to be searched than white people, a gap which has grown in recent years.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
A rather more nuanced position than the Abbot-bashers on this fred would have you believe.
Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Stop-and-search works. We hear again and again from police that [they] need to be empowered."
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
In 2017-18, black people were 9.5 times more likely to be searched than white people, a gap which has grown in recent years.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
A rather more nuanced position than the Abbot-bashers on this fred would have you believe.
'Community relations' is a laughable phrase. We have areas of our country given over to gangs of criminals who carry and use knives. There is no community, it's a jungle where the most violent get the spoils, they should be eradicated.
Police harassment of innocent people quickly builds resentment behind which the villains can hide; they can even prosper by posing as defenders of the community (the claim that launched a thousand protection rackets).
That's classically been the problem with stop and search. Too many innocent people stopped and searched. Not enough guilty.
Diane Abbott knows that, and so did Theresa May, so it is hardly a left/right point. Just common sense.
That's classically been the problem with stop and search. Too many innocent people stopped and searched. Not enough guilty.
Diane Abbott knows that, and so did Theresa May, so it is hardly a left/right point. Just common sense.
That is a point, what worries me is that all young men get into the habit of carrying knives.
Young men fight, if they use knives then it can be fatal.
Still if police stop and search is only going to create more ill feeling...that is a fair point.
ps
Remember watching 'West Side Story' years ago, gangs using knives in 50's New York, great film
Still the Us has solved that they now use guns instead
Young men fight, if they use knives then it can be fatal.
Still if police stop and search is only going to create more ill feeling...that is a fair point.
ps
Remember watching 'West Side Story' years ago, gangs using knives in 50's New York, great film
Still the Us has solved that they now use guns instead
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
That's not doing nothing, it's focussing on evidence based stop-and-search.
But that takes thought, planning, intelligence, so bugger that.
Instead, let's take the easy option of random stops, allowing conscious and unconscious bias influence our randomness.
That's not doing nothing, it's focussing on evidence based stop-and-search.
But that takes thought, planning, intelligence, so bugger that.
Instead, let's take the easy option of random stops, allowing conscious and unconscious bias influence our randomness.
Flabbot is thick and has always played the race card, she knows no other way.
If you stop and search a gang of black kids together, more often than not, they will have something illegal on them ..NAP
If you stop and search a gang of black kids together, more often than not, they will have something illegal on them ..NAP
When I was younger 60's and 70's gangs did not usually knives.
Miss Dynamite knew the score but the bruvvers and their apologists didn't listen bits of her song it takes more;
The **** that you promote, fightin, ****, like you don't want 2 grow.
You talkin so much sex, but you nah tell the youts bout Aids and you tell them bout consequence, no!
You talkin like you a G, but you killer killing your own, your just a racist mans ****.
Tell me who you wants 2 know, what, when, who, where or how you do your hoe.
And we can all chat bout gats and blacks on blacks
Enforce the hypes and all be stereotypes
This black on black lark has been going on for 20 years+ this song was from 2002 they know what's been going on and what the issues are but the do gooders that play unlimited race cards at anyone wanting it to stop have allowed it to go on.
The **** that you promote, fightin, ****, like you don't want 2 grow.
You talkin so much sex, but you nah tell the youts bout Aids and you tell them bout consequence, no!
You talkin like you a G, but you killer killing your own, your just a racist mans ****.
Tell me who you wants 2 know, what, when, who, where or how you do your hoe.
And we can all chat bout gats and blacks on blacks
Enforce the hypes and all be stereotypes
This black on black lark has been going on for 20 years+ this song was from 2002 they know what's been going on and what the issues are but the do gooders that play unlimited race cards at anyone wanting it to stop have allowed it to go on.
still no news on the supermarket bike gang 
they could have been carrying stolen goods ...saw them loitering around the fruit aisle on the video
they could have been carrying stolen goods ...saw them loitering around the fruit aisle on the video
Police should just confiscate things like weed, it is the knives they should look for and hard drugs of course dambuster imo, I don't know???
Miss Dynamite could've cried no money,no opportunities etc. but she didn't the real issues are the people themselves and the authorities allowing it to happen.
The line 'but you killer killing your own your just a racist man's p u ssy' says it all.
The line 'but you killer killing your own your just a racist man's p u ssy' says it all.
Our Di should have a few Mojito's and Keep out of it .
Aug 11, 2019 -- 6:40PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
Ideas from her and her ilk have done enough
Meant do gooders and gangster protectionists before the race brigade pipe up.
How is this going to be implemented exactly? I honestly don't think I've seen a copper on 'the beat' this year here in South London.
You would like to think that there is a detailed plan behind this statement.
A bit of substance beyond the "Tories are tough on crime" pre-election posturing.
Let's hope that there is.
A bit of substance beyond the "Tories are tough on crime" pre-election posturing.
Let's hope that there is.
Diane Abbott is quite right.
No one should be stopped and searched if they are doing nothing.
If the police have no evidence against someone they should leave them the fk alone.
No one should be stopped and searched if they are doing nothing.
If the police have no evidence against someone they should leave them the fk alone.
If it pees them off then why not?
Gives them something to moan about.
Gives them something to moan about.
A pilot scheme making it easier for police to search people without reasonable suspicion, in places where serious violence may occur, is being extended to all 43 forces across England and Wales.
In March, when he was home secretary, Sajid Javid first introduced the scheme in seven police force areas: London, the West Midlands, Merseyside, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, South Wales and Greater Manchester.
The latest move will see restrictions over using section 60 stop-and-search lifted more widely, giving officers across England and Wales a limited time period to search anyone in a designated area in order to prevent violent crime.
Inspectors will now be able to use section 60 without seeking the authorisation of a senior officer and there will be a lower threshold for its use, with police only needing to reasonably believe that violence "may" occur, not that it will.
The Home Office and Number 10 said their decision to extend stop-and-search was based on "initial feedback" from the three-month trial in seven areas.
Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Stop-and-search works. We hear again and again from police that [they] need to be empowered."
She said powers needed to be used in the "right, legal and professional way" but their use was supported by families of victims of knife crime, from "communities that have suffered so much trauma and pain".
Elena Noel, co-chair of Southwark's anti-knife crime forum, said action was needed to halt the "crisis" but "independent data does not show that stop-and-search stops knife crime and violence".
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
Labour accused the Conservatives of trying to "appear tough" instead of dealing with the root causes of crime.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
The Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman Ed Davey accused Mr Johnson of repeating the "failed policies of the past" and said extending stop-and-search disproportionately affected black, Asian and minority ethnic communities.
In March, when he was home secretary, Sajid Javid first introduced the scheme in seven police force areas: London, the West Midlands, Merseyside, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, South Wales and Greater Manchester.
The latest move will see restrictions over using section 60 stop-and-search lifted more widely, giving officers across England and Wales a limited time period to search anyone in a designated area in order to prevent violent crime.
Inspectors will now be able to use section 60 without seeking the authorisation of a senior officer and there will be a lower threshold for its use, with police only needing to reasonably believe that violence "may" occur, not that it will.
The Home Office and Number 10 said their decision to extend stop-and-search was based on "initial feedback" from the three-month trial in seven areas.
Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Stop-and-search works. We hear again and again from police that [they] need to be empowered."
She said powers needed to be used in the "right, legal and professional way" but their use was supported by families of victims of knife crime, from "communities that have suffered so much trauma and pain".
Elena Noel, co-chair of Southwark's anti-knife crime forum, said action was needed to halt the "crisis" but "independent data does not show that stop-and-search stops knife crime and violence".
A study of stop-and-search over a decade in London by the College of Policing found it to be "inconsistent" and "weak" as a deterrent.
Labour accused the Conservatives of trying to "appear tough" instead of dealing with the root causes of crime.
Ms Abbott said evidence-based stop-and-search was an important tool, but "random stops have only poisoned police community relations" and were a "tried and tested recipe for unrest".
The Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman Ed Davey accused Mr Johnson of repeating the "failed policies of the past" and said extending stop-and-search disproportionately affected black, Asian and minority ethnic communities.
I don't like to see people giving the police ''attitude.''
Would make sense to target the types in society that are committing these crimes,oh hang on as they aren't poor white people that's discrimination.
I am all for stop and search
Innocent people should be in favour of stop and search. Today we have recording equipment that can record abuse by bigoted Police Officers.
You have to feel for parents who live in these dodgy areas who worry if their kids will come home safely.
Typical stupid reaction from the Home Secretary though imho. What is she going to do about the drugs gangs. Wasn't she for a time part of a Government that cut 20,000 Police Officers. Wasn't BJ part of the Government for some time?
Drugs policy and Laws are not working.
I do not understand the Labour Party's attitude. Poor people are the ones getting killed. Poor people are the ones who will be robbed and mugged. The Police Force should be there to protect all our people.
I do not understand some Black people's attitude. Who wants knife wielding drug gang members walking around as untouchables?
I believe that fella in Tottenham got murdered by the Police. I think it was wrong and we do not want our Police Force to go round assassinating people but do I care if Duggan is dead....NO! One less piece of scum not making peoples lives and communities miserable.
Innocent people should be in favour of stop and search. Today we have recording equipment that can record abuse by bigoted Police Officers.
You have to feel for parents who live in these dodgy areas who worry if their kids will come home safely.
Typical stupid reaction from the Home Secretary though imho. What is she going to do about the drugs gangs. Wasn't she for a time part of a Government that cut 20,000 Police Officers. Wasn't BJ part of the Government for some time?
Drugs policy and Laws are not working.
I do not understand the Labour Party's attitude. Poor people are the ones getting killed. Poor people are the ones who will be robbed and mugged. The Police Force should be there to protect all our people.
I do not understand some Black people's attitude. Who wants knife wielding drug gang members walking around as untouchables?
I believe that fella in Tottenham got murdered by the Police. I think it was wrong and we do not want our Police Force to go round assassinating people but do I care if Duggan is dead....NO! One less piece of scum not making peoples lives and communities miserable.
Whisperingdeath that is the best post you've made on here has your account been hijacked?
bigoted Police Officers.
Those are the best types, they go in there with a will and get things sorted.
Those are the best types, they go in there with a will and get things sorted.
If randomly searching people is such a great idea because you will find a few guilty ones why not extend it to other serious crimes ?
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
If randomly searching people is such a great idea because you will find a few guilty ones why not extend it to other serious crimes ?
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
Denzil
I am not really in favour of the Police having vast stop and search powers but society is getting worse for ordinary people. There is now a class that operates below the Law. They seem untouchable. Should they go to prison they will be meeting up with their mates. These people are bloodsuckers destroying our society.
I believe many knife killings occur just after school ends for 2 or 3 hours. I think that would be a great time to stop and search people even kids for knives. I don't think it will solve the problem but it might give some comfort to parents who want their kids to come home from school safely.
You and me have more in common and these scum are enemies of us both! Black white brown musso's I don't care. I want scum off the street.
I am not really in favour of the Police having vast stop and search powers but society is getting worse for ordinary people. There is now a class that operates below the Law. They seem untouchable. Should they go to prison they will be meeting up with their mates. These people are bloodsuckers destroying our society.
I believe many knife killings occur just after school ends for 2 or 3 hours. I think that would be a great time to stop and search people even kids for knives. I don't think it will solve the problem but it might give some comfort to parents who want their kids to come home from school safely.
You and me have more in common and these scum are enemies of us both! Black white brown musso's I don't care. I want scum off the street.
If randomly searching people is such a great idea because you will find a few guilty ones why not extend it to other serious crimes ?
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
Good point. If they can produce cookies and trackers to find out what type of tooth paste we use and who we vote for why not use the technology!
and the Financial criminals and Tax Dodgers!
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
Good point. If they can produce cookies and trackers to find out what type of tooth paste we use and who we vote for why not use the technology!
and the Financial criminals and Tax Dodgers!
never ending more well off rich people likely to be avoidinmg tax lets hound the cooonts
lets empty all traveller site,turn over gypo caravans looking for stolen gear
lets profile every football fan looking for racist chanting
lets stage nightly wildcat searches turning over middle,upper class homes in London looking for cocaine,starting at mr gove,s and sarah vines 7 nights a week on the hour every hour we,ll get a tickle eventually,
lets empty all traveller site,turn over gypo caravans looking for stolen gear
lets profile every football fan looking for racist chanting
lets stage nightly wildcat searches turning over middle,upper class homes in London looking for cocaine,starting at mr gove,s and sarah vines 7 nights a week on the hour every hour we,ll get a tickle eventually,
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
They already track those white paedo types online through age/gender related profiling.
They already track those white paedo types online through age/gender related profiling.
Suspect you mean a banned forumite,if he's been at it online they'll have had him in there are vigilante mobs all over the country working with police and there tech.
I told him earlier I'd been doing the peedo bait thing and he logged out.
Would love to see the old SPG smashing in the doors at wealthy middle class dinner parties looking for white powder.
Aug 11, 2019 -- 8:31PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
Would love to see the old SPG smashing in the doors at wealthy middle class dinner parties looking for white powder.
Given our esteemed prime minister claims to have tried snorting, erm, icing sugar, it may be a while before you get your wish.
For every black person the police stop and search for knives..
they should stop and search one white old age pensioner as well
Those 80 year old grannies are devils for concealing knives about their person
they should stop and search one white old age pensioner as well
Those 80 year old grannies are devils for concealing knives about their person
An unpleasant task when they've applied the lily of the valley perfume somewhat too liberally.
I should think so Mouse
But we cannot have discrimination!
Search all Ministers of the Church as well
They may not have a knife but could be sneaking off with the lead from the Church roof.
They may not have a knife but could be sneaking off with the lead from the Church roof.
When you see a priest at a sporting event he's 1.01 to have some form of courtsiding device concealed in his vestments.
Just rememberLiam Byrnes words whisperingbobharris , THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT. LABOUR left no options but cost cutting ,the police was probably the wrong choice but when THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT, difficult choices have to be made.
courtsiding mouse
The Tories have been in for a bit now flushgordon, they cannot go on using that excuse for ever?
The Tories have been in for a bit now flushgordon, they cannot go on using that excuse for ever?
They generally have to come in and fix Labour fook ups ,the coalition and mad may were not a sucess to be fair.
I am pretty sure they will not be stopping little old black ladies
It seems young black youths are both the most common perpetrators and the victims of this...
But nothing can be done, a pity
But nothing can be done, a pity
So tobermory is all for stabbing, what world does he live in ?
There are lots of things that would reduce stabbings and other crimes by reducing the liberty of everyone.....
10PM curfew for everyone, except those with special permission from the government, to be enforced by the military with a shoot to kill policy.
There would be fewer murders, robberies etc. Are people in favour of that ? If not, are they in favour of murders and robberies ?
10PM curfew for everyone, except those with special permission from the government, to be enforced by the military with a shoot to kill policy.
There would be fewer murders, robberies etc. Are people in favour of that ? If not, are they in favour of murders and robberies ?
FWIW I do think we are too soft on criminals.
When you see the post trial reports on these gang murderers there is always a long list of previous convictions for violence and very little jail time had been served. If they were locked up for mugging etc they would not be on the streets to do the stabbings.
Anyone using a knife in a mugging, even if they don't stab anyone, should be charged with armed robbery the same as if they did it in a bank, so 7+ years sentence.
The prison capacity is too small but it costs a lot to expand it.
My issue with stop and search is that no one should be treated like a suspect unless they have done something to warrant it.
When you see the post trial reports on these gang murderers there is always a long list of previous convictions for violence and very little jail time had been served. If they were locked up for mugging etc they would not be on the streets to do the stabbings.
Anyone using a knife in a mugging, even if they don't stab anyone, should be charged with armed robbery the same as if they did it in a bank, so 7+ years sentence.
The prison capacity is too small but it costs a lot to expand it.
My issue with stop and search is that no one should be treated like a suspect unless they have done something to warrant it.
I wonder if the police will keep a record of the racial details of people they stop and search. They will have to, since not making the minorities feel suppressed is basically a big agenda today.
What'll be more amusing is if they get a quota they have to fulfill. Such as stop and search 1 white man for every 2 non-white?
What'll be more amusing is if they get a quota they have to fulfill. Such as stop and search 1 white man for every 2 non-white?
They should make public the racial stats for knifings,shootings,robberies etc. and if there are any patterns pertaining to targets/victims and use that information for a more thorough evidence based targeted stop and search system,instead of playing the fake race hate game if they GENUINELY want to stop those young kids killing eachother and running the streets.
They've been doing what they did in the US from the 80s onwards (until the Hispanic millitants changed the game),they gave them drugs and weapons and allowed them to get on with it instead of enforcing the actual law.
Now we're hearing all the same cries of woe in London as were being pumped out in South Central LA 20 odd years ago Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming.
From tupac Changes;
I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth living should I blast myself?
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black
My stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
Pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
One less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal the brothers
Give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
Two shots in the dark now Huey's dead
Now we're hearing all the same cries of woe in London as were being pumped out in South Central LA 20 odd years ago Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming.
From tupac Changes;
I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth living should I blast myself?
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black
My stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
Pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
One less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal the brothers
Give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
Two shots in the dark now Huey's dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkC2VYkA2UA
This documentary is from years ago to prove they know what's been going on for years,how it's been developing and in my opinion the deliberate failures of the government to ensure it's continuation.
This documentary is from years ago to prove they know what's been going on for years,how it's been developing and in my opinion the deliberate failures of the government to ensure it's continuation.
once you,ve through out the unsuitables, failures, leavers etc,etc to think there,s a pool 0f 100,000 under 40,s begging to be allowed the chance of working in the police,prisons in most cases working for private companies g4s etc on shoite money,conditions etc ,shows how out of touch mp,s are in todays world,
for the majority of people theres not enough money in the world for them to even consider working in the police,prison system
for the majority of people theres not enough money in the world for them to even consider working in the police,prison system
I have heard most of th3 stabb8ngs occur between 4 and 8pm
A 10 o clock curfew would not be of much benefit!
And the point is the Government does not know what i5 is doin* with law and order. It has cut 20,000 Police Officers!
It is doin* nothing to change the failed and out dated drug laws.
Legalising drugs needs to be tried.
The BJ is dog whistling in preparation for the up coming General Election!
Black people are th3 ones who should be demanding stop and search!
A 10 o clock curfew would not be of much benefit!
And the point is the Government does not know what i5 is doin* with law and order. It has cut 20,000 Police Officers!
It is doin* nothing to change the failed and out dated drug laws.
Legalising drugs needs to be tried.
The BJ is dog whistling in preparation for the up coming General Election!
Black people are th3 ones who should be demanding stop and search!
tobemory: My issue with stop and search is that no one should be treated like a suspect unless they have done something to warrant it.
What about airport security? We're all treated like convicts.
What about airport security? We're all treated like convicts.
The moment any police stops you, you are treated as a suspect. This is a necessity. If they are searching you for a knife, in what world would they go about it with the assumption that you don't have it on you? They have to be ready to defend themselves. So you are treated as a criminal, until you show that you aren't armed.
I shared my own story a few months back where I was held on the street at night, arms above my head for about 10 min, because the police thought I was armed and won't come near me. When I complained to the police about it the next day, I was told this is normal as it has to be assumed that you are armed. This is why no one would come near me, until 6 backup guys had arrived.
So its a part of the process and the reason why stop and search cannot be popular. Boris is a temporary PM and it is quite possible they are implementing it to prove it won't work, as a result allowing the police to continue to be powerless in the long run.
I will also be surprised if any police officer is looking forward to being a part of this. You'd need balls of steel and military backup to try this in London.
I shared my own story a few months back where I was held on the street at night, arms above my head for about 10 min, because the police thought I was armed and won't come near me. When I complained to the police about it the next day, I was told this is normal as it has to be assumed that you are armed. This is why no one would come near me, until 6 backup guys had arrived.
So its a part of the process and the reason why stop and search cannot be popular. Boris is a temporary PM and it is quite possible they are implementing it to prove it won't work, as a result allowing the police to continue to be powerless in the long run.
I will also be surprised if any police officer is looking forward to being a part of this. You'd need balls of steel and military backup to try this in London.
I will also be surprised if any police officer is looking forward to being a part of this. You'd need balls of steel and military backup to try this in London.
Agree dt I posted on the other S+S thread that the police are employing the wrong types as the ones I know are there as a good long term career prospect with for all the good things this entails and are not hardened capable men who want to deal with scumbags.
Agree dt I posted on the other S+S thread that the police are employing the wrong types as the ones I know are there as a good long term career prospect with for all the good things this entails and are not hardened capable men who want to deal with scumbags.
Need a special Division to deal with our Drug and Knifemen . Ex army the Job imo .
Portable Security Arch , Empty your pockets and walk through that, No Beep you retrieve your posessions your on your way .
Hidden weapons , Fooked into the back of a van and Down to a special holding Center to be dealt with , New Laws regarding
Knifes ,Fast track 3 months , JOB DONE 2nd offence a Year 3rd ,5 years ... JOB DONE ..
Portable Security Arch , Empty your pockets and walk through that, No Beep you retrieve your posessions your on your way .
Hidden weapons , Fooked into the back of a van and Down to a special holding Center to be dealt with , New Laws regarding
Knifes ,Fast track 3 months , JOB DONE 2nd offence a Year 3rd ,5 years ... JOB DONE ..
I once finished work early when I was an apprentice engineer so I could go on the train to watch Aston villa v utd when I got off the train.the police searched me .they said they were looking for knives .I said I know I'm a bit dark and my hairs long but I'm no red indian
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