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10 Aug 19
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Whatever it was you'd think they'd change it up a bit, some new material perhaps? like he was chased down by a wild boar who proceeded to eat him alive or something like that
Suicide has been used since the dawn of our species by the elitists and its their go to cover story every time.
Suicide has been used since the dawn of our species by the elitists and its their go to cover story every time.
Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein has killed himself in prison ahead of facing trial on sex trafficking charges, according to US media.
The 66-year-old, who was being held without bail in a Manhattan jail, was accused of abusing dozens of underage girls as young as 14 in New York and Florida.
Epstein, who denied the charges, was found at 7.30am on Saturday morning according to officials, who spoke to NBC. They said he had hanged himself.
Last month, he had reportedly been found unconscious with neck injuries on the floor of his cell. His lawyers declined to comment at the time.
The 66-year-old, who was being held without bail in a Manhattan jail, was accused of abusing dozens of underage girls as young as 14 in New York and Florida.
Epstein, who denied the charges, was found at 7.30am on Saturday morning according to officials, who spoke to NBC. They said he had hanged himself.
Last month, he had reportedly been found unconscious with neck injuries on the floor of his cell. His lawyers declined to comment at the time.
Bumped off more like. Too many bigwigs involved. No court case now.
I doubt he was bumped off but it is curious that in a top American prison, and after a failed "suicide" just last month, that Epstein was not under 24x7 suicide watch.
So imo not murder but Epstein was deliberately allowed the space and time to kill himself.
So imo not murder but Epstein was deliberately allowed the space and time to kill himself.
yank reporter saying if he's a suicide watch or high threat to life - killer prison rule he shouldn't of been in a special housing unit - like semi open prison
Must have got to him being in prison during the school holidays.
Savile
Cyril Smith
Jenner
Epstein
Death before trial. Coincidence?
Cyril Smith
Jenner
Epstein
Death before trial. Coincidence?
Wow. Looks like they think we are stupid. I think they will find out there are enough that are not.
I'm more interested in who are WE.
If it's the general public then it matters feck all if they find out.
If it's the general public then it matters feck all if they find out.
The general public don't matter, they are easily manipulated
If anyone has any bright ideas about going after these people they'd be wise to know they are nothing more a "conspiracy domestic terrorists", and the "general public" will have no sympathy for them, and will actually side with the media/elites.
If anyone has any bright ideas about going after these people they'd be wise to know they are nothing more a "conspiracy domestic terrorists", and the "general public" will have no sympathy for them, and will actually side with the media/elites.
I think some are hoping the "sheep" will stick up for them, the sad and true fact is you'll be sitting in a prison cell all alone and not a pot to p*** in, the "sheep" will be at home watching X Factor. And when they see the news of your arrest they'll call you "a nutter then".
The end
The end
You look at the BBC and the amount of people complaining about their agenda. Yet the next thread they create has a BBC link as the source.
Look at brexit. Two PMs resigned because they didn't want it. Now the people think the third one will do it.
In Germany we even Chose Merkel after she imported a million people not wanted at all.
I can go on and on but the point is, general public is the easiest to control. So WE aren't doing anything, even if we find out the truth of this case.
Look at brexit. Two PMs resigned because they didn't want it. Now the people think the third one will do it.
In Germany we even Chose Merkel after she imported a million people not wanted at all.
I can go on and on but the point is, general public is the easiest to control. So WE aren't doing anything, even if we find out the truth of this case.
Exactly Detrav
And the media tell them they don't want Brexit and they want millions of immigrants despite voting against it
And the media tell them they don't want Brexit and they want millions of immigrants despite voting against it
he wasn't under suicide watch so he may have had extra long shoelaces in his Tom Fords. Or of course his bedsheets could have been from JC Penneys, enabling him to rip them with his bare hands. No Egyptian cotton sheets for Epstein, mark my words
detraveller • August 10, 2019 8:27 PM BST
You look at the BBC and the amount of people complaining about their agenda. Yet the next thread they create has a BBC link as the source.
Look at brexit. Two PMs resigned because they didn't want it. Now the people think the third one will do it.
In Germany we even Chose Merkel after she imported a million people not wanted at all.
I can go on and on but the point is, general public is the easiest to control. So WE aren't doing anything, even if we find out the truth of this case.
not according to your fellow German who goes by the name of Edy, these "refugees" were wanted by the majority of Germans
You look at the BBC and the amount of people complaining about their agenda. Yet the next thread they create has a BBC link as the source.
Look at brexit. Two PMs resigned because they didn't want it. Now the people think the third one will do it.
In Germany we even Chose Merkel after she imported a million people not wanted at all.
I can go on and on but the point is, general public is the easiest to control. So WE aren't doing anything, even if we find out the truth of this case.
not according to your fellow German who goes by the name of Edy, these "refugees" were wanted by the majority of Germans
They were obviously welcome at first. People had no clue about the size of the influx. By the time Merkel was reelected everything was clear.
My point was there isn't much the general public can do even if they know the truth.
My point was there isn't much the general public can do even if they know the truth.
People have to stop calling these events "fake", yes they may well be fake and probably are
But people have to start looking at them as legitimate events and very real on an "official narrative" standpoint
Because they are altering your laws with these events, and they are bringing in new legislation with every passing one
Its time people started picking apart the holes in the official narrative they are currently pushing, yes he killed himself, but why was he left alone so soon after trying to commit suicide previously? Why isn't anyone being sacked for gross misconduct? sheer incompetence?
You've got a bloke ready to sing to the crowd, here is a bloke who can progress your career if you get him to sing, and you just leave him despite being totally depressed and suicidal?
Its nice to see more youtubers asking these questions, for to long they've just jumped on these events and called them fake, but people are asking questions regarding the official narrative now
So much so that CNN have actually reported that the attorney general is opening an investigation, we now await their bull s*it, and then we pick apart that bull s*it
Awaiting some "false flag" event to brush this under the carpet though, but I think this story could be the start of people finally picking apart the narrative and asking questions
But people have to start looking at them as legitimate events and very real on an "official narrative" standpoint
Because they are altering your laws with these events, and they are bringing in new legislation with every passing one
Its time people started picking apart the holes in the official narrative they are currently pushing, yes he killed himself, but why was he left alone so soon after trying to commit suicide previously? Why isn't anyone being sacked for gross misconduct? sheer incompetence?
You've got a bloke ready to sing to the crowd, here is a bloke who can progress your career if you get him to sing, and you just leave him despite being totally depressed and suicidal?
Its nice to see more youtubers asking these questions, for to long they've just jumped on these events and called them fake, but people are asking questions regarding the official narrative now
So much so that CNN have actually reported that the attorney general is opening an investigation, we now await their bull s*it, and then we pick apart that bull s*it
Awaiting some "false flag" event to brush this under the carpet though, but I think this story could be the start of people finally picking apart the narrative and asking questions
Maybe this is why they are now calling these people "conspiracy theorist terrorists" ??
Because they are starting to question these "events" and treating them as actual events, which is actually f*cking up their narratives?
They want people to scream "fake" because it basically hides the truth in plain sight, people don't listen to "fake" do they, people need substance and questions, just calling something "fake" isn't going to achieve that
By asking questions and calling it out it adds substance to their arguments, and they are absolutely petrified of this
Even if they change the story its going to follow them round, more people will question and ask very uneasy one's at that, the more people asking the more they have to move the stories along, the quicker they get called out, the holes in their narrative get picked to pieces, the quicker they have to bury the stories
Screaming fake for so long allowed them to just sell the narrative, no one questioned, they simply moved on to the next one. Now they are having to dub everyone who is asking questions "domestic conspiracy terrorists"
Because they are starting to question these "events" and treating them as actual events, which is actually f*cking up their narratives?
They want people to scream "fake" because it basically hides the truth in plain sight, people don't listen to "fake" do they, people need substance and questions, just calling something "fake" isn't going to achieve that
By asking questions and calling it out it adds substance to their arguments, and they are absolutely petrified of this
Even if they change the story its going to follow them round, more people will question and ask very uneasy one's at that, the more people asking the more they have to move the stories along, the quicker they get called out, the holes in their narrative get picked to pieces, the quicker they have to bury the stories
Screaming fake for so long allowed them to just sell the narrative, no one questioned, they simply moved on to the next one. Now they are having to dub everyone who is asking questions "domestic conspiracy terrorists"
I'm hearing there was a 5G mast right outside his cell window.
That's another question
Who are these "sources" ? We need to see them and if they don't we call them "bull s*itters" simples
Who are these "sources" ? We need to see them and if they don't we call them "bull s*itters" simples
Has to be Phil's men, unless Andy or Don are smarter than what we give them credit for.
Phil was the back-up.
If Epstein walked Phil was gonna give him a lift home.
If Epstein walked Phil was gonna give him a lift home.
What's happened to Iran?
Weren't we on the cusp of Universal War ?
Why no mention of them in weeks ?
Weren't we on the cusp of Universal War ?
Why no mention of them in weeks ?
So tell me again, why is everyone here convinced he's dead?
Last month Epstein was found semi-conscious in his cell after an apparent suicide attempt.
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio has called for a full investigation, calling it "way too convenient".
"What a lot of us want to know is, what did he know?" said Mr de Blasio, who is also running for the Democratic presidential nomination, told reporters in Iowa.
"How many other millionaires and billionaires were part of the illegal activities that he was engaged in?
"Well, that information didn't die with Jeffrey Epstein. That needs to be investigated, too."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49309317
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio has called for a full investigation, calling it "way too convenient".
"What a lot of us want to know is, what did he know?" said Mr de Blasio, who is also running for the Democratic presidential nomination, told reporters in Iowa.
"How many other millionaires and billionaires were part of the illegal activities that he was engaged in?
"Well, that information didn't die with Jeffrey Epstein. That needs to be investigated, too."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49309317
Rumours circulated on Saturday that the cameras supposedly monitoring Epstein had mysteriously “malfunctioned” at the time of his death, adding fuel to the theories of foul play already circulating. However, these rumours can be traced back to an unsubstantiated tweet by right wing commenter Michael Coudrey, which was picked up and spread by a suspicious public.
Though it may still emerge that there was a “camera malfunction” overnight, that claim has not yet been verified.
What happens next?
Pending further investigation, rumours will likely continue to circulate. Epstein’s death came at a suspicious time, occurring just one day after court documents were unsealed alleging that Epstein had procured young girls for some of the world’s most powerful and wealthiest men, including British prince Andrew, billionaire investor Glenn Dubin, former governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson, and a number of other unnamed foreign political and business figures.
As Epstein was the only defendant in the case against him, the trail now goes cold.
However, in a court filing last month, the government said it was pursuing an "ongoing investigation of uncharged individuals" connected to Epstein, and US Attorney Geoffrey Berman confirmed on Saturday that the investigation will continue despite Epstein’s death.
Though it may still emerge that there was a “camera malfunction” overnight, that claim has not yet been verified.
What happens next?
Pending further investigation, rumours will likely continue to circulate. Epstein’s death came at a suspicious time, occurring just one day after court documents were unsealed alleging that Epstein had procured young girls for some of the world’s most powerful and wealthiest men, including British prince Andrew, billionaire investor Glenn Dubin, former governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson, and a number of other unnamed foreign political and business figures.
As Epstein was the only defendant in the case against him, the trail now goes cold.
However, in a court filing last month, the government said it was pursuing an "ongoing investigation of uncharged individuals" connected to Epstein, and US Attorney Geoffrey Berman confirmed on Saturday that the investigation will continue despite Epstein’s death.
Epstein was very well connected and had links to very powerful people , life is cheap as they say and in cases like this the real truth never comes to the public domain
Correct John W your analysis is spot on especially - here they have no fear of the potential fallout they control everything - indeed and their money , power and privilege can buy anything
News coming from reuters is he choked on his own penis.
We need to find out as much of the truth as possible here. There should be enough to get hold of Maxwell and force her to tell the truth. If she doesn't I just hope she gets locked away for the rest of her life.
I also hope people are not trying to make political capital out of this. We should be able to hold our leaders to account whatever their political persuasion and also the powerful men who are intricately linked with them.
I also hope people are not trying to make political capital out of this. We should be able to hold our leaders to account whatever their political persuasion and also the powerful men who are intricately linked with them.
it will be interesting to see if Ghislaine Maxwell actually gets a pull over this case
Aug 11, 2019 -- 5:51AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
We need to find out as much of the truth as possible here. There should be enough to get hold of Maxwell and force her to tell the truth. If she doesn't I just hope she gets locked away for the rest of her life.I also hope people are not trying to make political capital out of this. We should be able to hold our leaders to account whatever their political persuasion and also the powerful men who are intricately linked with them.
I thought you were talking about Big Show 
are you insinuating the US President is somehow involved in this, detraveller?
it will be interesting to see if Ghislaine Maxwell actually gets a pull over this case
I wonder if she will get extradited. Shirley she knew something. Plenty have been saying she was a procurer of girls. Has she been investigated, questioned?
I wonder if she will get extradited. Shirley she knew something. Plenty have been saying she was a procurer of girls. Has she been investigated, questioned?
I don't think any associate of Epstein has ever faced charges.
Perhaps now they will?
Perhaps now they will?
"News coming from reuters is he choked on his own penis. "
Certainly preferable to going via choking on someone else's penis.
Certainly preferable to going via choking on someone else's penis.
Low and behold, they start getting asked questions and the media just casually move onto a new story
They are reporting on Bozo, some asian countries are about to collapse and a man holding a dog in the air
Gotta love the dirty media
They are reporting on Bozo, some asian countries are about to collapse and a man holding a dog in the air
Gotta love the dirty media
Bozo is a good one
No majority? so how is he able to "govern"? that's a question I've been asking since Bonkers May lost the majority ffs, but still no answer from the media
No majority? so how is he able to "govern"? that's a question I've been asking since Bonkers May lost the majority ffs, but still no answer from the media
We didn't "elect" Bozo either, so why is he allowed to wobble round the country barking orders on behalf of his handlers?
An answer would be nice, BBC/SKY/ITV/C4
An answer would be nice, BBC/SKY/ITV/C4
Best move on from Bozo eh
Get on something you can possibly answer a question on, like paedophiles in your corporation, BBC??
Get on something you can possibly answer a question on, like paedophiles in your corporation, BBC??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48850490
Nah that's more your level eh, BBC
Best stick to that sort of c**p
Nah that's more your level eh, BBC
Best stick to that sort of c**p
People talk as though boris Johnson is the first unelected pm.plenty of previous examples,Brown,Callaghan,Major,Douglas hume
The past 2 have been unelected, barrow
Corbyn was so bad yet May lost a majority ffs, she was never wanted in the first place either, another unelected PM there
3 out of the last 4 have been unelected, and Cameron had to do a sly deal with the Lib Dems to get in in 2010 as well
Corbyn was so bad yet May lost a majority ffs, she was never wanted in the first place either, another unelected PM there
3 out of the last 4 have been unelected, and Cameron had to do a sly deal with the Lib Dems to get in in 2010 as well
Johnson needed to call a GE by rule?
You can't just waltz in like he has and not call one, he needs a majority to govern, if he can't get a majority he needs support from whoever and if he can't get that he resigns, but that's not what happens now
May gave a load of money to DUP who still didn't prop her up its a disgrace they are getting away with it without one question being asked
You can't just waltz in like he has and not call one, he needs a majority to govern, if he can't get a majority he needs support from whoever and if he can't get that he resigns, but that's not what happens now
May gave a load of money to DUP who still didn't prop her up
its a disgrace they are getting away with it without one question being asked
Luckily he converted to Islam before he died ,so he has got another 72 virgins.
It works both ways
If he was murdered where is the autopsy report? and to be honest we want to see the body and we want our own man/woman doing the autopsy
If he was poisoned we want actual evidence of this and not just some "source" reporting to Alex Jones ffs, so many sources and none of them are ever haired
The corporate media are claiming suicide and you know the questions that need to be asked there
It seems "sources" tell with no actual hard evidence to back it up, if you ask questions you're simply ignored and called "conspiracy theorist" and Alex Jones has been using that term lately to describe his none fans, absolutely amazing isn't it
If he was murdered where is the autopsy report? and to be honest we want to see the body and we want our own man/woman doing the autopsy
If he was poisoned we want actual evidence of this and not just some "source" reporting to Alex Jones ffs, so many sources and none of them are ever haired
The corporate media are claiming suicide and you know the questions that need to be asked there
It seems "sources" tell with no actual hard evidence to back it up, if you ask questions you're simply ignored and called "conspiracy theorist" and Alex Jones has been using that term lately to describe his none fans, absolutely amazing isn't it
Where's the footage of him being murdered? oh the cameras went down, well you don't have back up CCTV? no they were down as well
Who the f**k is running these joints then, the lights and TVs were still working? yes!, so why weren't the cameras?....
So what you're saying is the government is totally inept and incompetent? or just plain corrupt?
Either way some heads need to roll, because quite frankly there seems to be a lot of cameras going down when there's a "death".
Who the f**k is running these joints then, the lights and TVs were still working? yes!, so why weren't the cameras?....
So what you're saying is the government is totally inept and incompetent? or just plain corrupt?
Either way some heads need to roll, because quite frankly there seems to be a lot of cameras going down when there's a "death".
Irony:
Imo,Epstein likely ran a video recording blackmail scheme.
All the video recorders around him failed when he died.
Imo,Epstein likely ran a video recording blackmail scheme.
All the video recorders around him failed when he died.
Breaking news Epsteins guard is killed in a car crash tomorrow.
Would imagine the maxwell woman will be looking over her shoulder too.
EvgenyKissin 11 Aug 19 18:58
Good evening, Facts.
What is your view on Trident?
I will answer your query politely.
I don't believe in nuclear weapons of any kind. What's the point of them ? They will either :-
A) never be used
B) be used
If B ) the planet is fcked !
There is no such thing as ' limited ' nuclear war.
I find it astonishing that the Federales only went into Epstein's pleasure Island to look for evidence yesterday!
WTF have they been doing? Rumours of what this filth has been doing must have lead to the suspicion that there is evidence of his and others misdeeds all over the place. They might as well have let the journalist who blew the story to have the search warrants!
Really terrible.
WTF have they been doing? Rumours of what this filth has been doing must have lead to the suspicion that there is evidence of his and others misdeeds all over the place. They might as well have let the journalist who blew the story to have the search warrants!
Really terrible.
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