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RICHARD Leonard has met John McDonnell to try to fix their row over an independence referendum - but appears not to have changed the shadow chancellor’s mind.
The Scottish Labour leader was humiliated by Mr McDonnell on Tuesday, after the latter said a UK Labour government would not block Indyref2
Speaking on the Edinburgh Fringe, Mr McDonnell said: "It will be for the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish people to decide that. We would not block something like that.
“We would let the Scottish people decide. That's democracy.”
His comments flatly contradicted Mr Leonard’s position in March, when he said Labour would block a new vote, even if the Scottish Parliament wanted it.
Now Mr Leonard has broken his silence on the issue after a meeting with Mr McDonnell.
He said he had told Mr McDonnell that Indyref2 was unwanted, unnecessary, and that the two men agreed that independence would lead to "turbo-charged austerity".
However Mr Leonard conspicuously failed to say if Mr McDonnell had backed down and whether a Labour government would now block a referendum.
Mr Leonard said: “I met with John this morning, and I made clear to him that a second independence referendum is unwanted by the people of Scotland and it is unnecessary.
“The 2014 referendum was a once in a generation vote.
“There is no economic case for independence, especially with the SNP’s new position of ditching the pound and new policy of turbo-charged austerity to bear down on the deficit.
“On that John McDonnell and I are in firm agreement - what Scotland needs is radical reforming Labour governments at Holyrood and Westminster.”Mr McDonnell’s message caused delight in the SNP and despair among some Labour MPs.
Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson said Labour’s U-turn was a “rank betrayal” of the 2m voters who backed the Union in 2014.
RICHARD Leonard has met John McDonnell to try to fix their row over an independence referendum - but appears not to have changed the shadow chancellor’s mind.
The Scottish Labour leader was humiliated by Mr McDonnell on Tuesday, after the latter said a UK Labour government would not block Indyref2
Speaking on the Edinburgh Fringe, Mr McDonnell said: "It will be for the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish people to decide that. We would not block something like that.
“We would let the Scottish people decide. That's democracy.”
His comments flatly contradicted Mr Leonard’s position in March, when he said Labour would block a new vote, even if the Scottish Parliament wanted it.
Now Mr Leonard has broken his silence on the issue after a meeting with Mr McDonnell.
He said he had told Mr McDonnell that Indyref2 was unwanted, unnecessary, and that the two men agreed that independence would lead to "turbo-charged austerity".
However Mr Leonard conspicuously failed to say if Mr McDonnell had backed down and whether a Labour government would now block a referendum.
Mr Leonard said: “I met with John this morning, and I made clear to him that a second independence referendum is unwanted by the people of Scotland and it is unnecessary.
“The 2014 referendum was a once in a generation vote.
“There is no economic case for independence, especially with the SNP’s new position of ditching the pound and new policy of turbo-charged austerity to bear down on the deficit.
“On that John McDonnell and I are in firm agreement - what Scotland needs is radical reforming Labour governments at Holyrood and Westminster.”Mr McDonnell’s message caused delight in the SNP and despair among some Labour MPs.
Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson said Labour’s U-turn was a “rank betrayal” of the 2m voters who backed the Union in 2014.
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Not mentioned above but JM refers to the ‘English Parliament”.
Used to think he spoke sense but the guy is deranged.
Used to think he spoke sense but the guy is deranged.
He wants a Labour Marxist government at any cost, the maths doesn't work so he's desperate to keep the SNP on side in the hope he can cut a support deal down the line, so he'd risk breaking up the UK to do it. He said as much (something like "the most important thing is getting a Labour government") but it's not in your pasted bit above.
As to the recent poll, well large sections of the supposedly "balanced" media are vociferously anti Brexit (portraying it as the end of the world caused by little Englanders) and just as anti Boris, both are what are driving any polling changes, so if Scotland breaks away I do wonder if the self important d1cks at the BBC etc will accept any responsbility in the political chaos and the possible break up of the UK. I doubt it.
As to the recent poll, well large sections of the supposedly "balanced" media are vociferously anti Brexit (portraying it as the end of the world caused by little Englanders) and just as anti Boris, both are what are driving any polling changes, so if Scotland breaks away I do wonder if the self important d1cks at the BBC etc will accept any responsbility in the political chaos and the possible break up of the UK. I doubt it.
Scottish Labour politicans apparently told him not to say this beforehand as it's not policy but he said it anyway and they are going Begbie with rage?
A theory apparently is that Corbyn Labour have given up on getting their Scottish seats back and Corbyn's Puppetmaster is happy to further damage Scottish Labour's slim electoral chances if it means he can get SNP support instead down the line. No wonder Scottish Labour are a little unhappy!
A theory apparently is that Corbyn Labour have given up on getting their Scottish seats back and Corbyn's Puppetmaster is happy to further damage Scottish Labour's slim electoral chances if it means he can get SNP support instead down the line. No wonder Scottish Labour are a little unhappy!
Maybe "Punch and Krankie" can do a panto when Scotland sees sense and they both get punted out.
amazing how the lefties never enter their own topics. Embarrassed? Ashamed?
There was an SNP MSP done for wife beating about 5 years ago, if the Mr Punch wants some tips for acting out a panto Mr Punch, he could get some tips from his former colleague?
I'm sure the SNP will have decided it was the fault of the Tories and Westminster though 
Would've been if Jon Sopel had been covering the story.
it's fair to say he isn't your favourite person, JC
He is employed at vast license fee payer expense for a one man personal hate campaign.
very little mcdonnell will not do if it means getting into power. rather cheeky to say the least everyone accusing the tories threatening to break up the union when labour are prepared to actively facilitate it
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