"Too late to stop no-deal"

Can't wait, I'll be going marching in my pink leotard.

Many of the Pink leotard Chaps may well be swaying towards Brexit

They swing from side to side.

Sadly Mouse our Luvvie friends will only add fuel to the Fire that is the Far Right in this Country

I wore a pink leotard to the pub the other day. The doorman ordered me out but once I explained "leave means remain" I was allowed to stay.

I will get a bowler hat and umbrella if we have to March!

So let me get this right casemoney. The disaster you fear from a No Brexit will be marching?

What about the price of food and our food exports to the EU. What will happen there or will we all be too busy marching to acre?

I wore a pink leotard to the pub the other day. The doorman ordered me out but once I explained "leave means remain" I was allowed to stay.


You on fire boy!

tick tock

Exactly Bap

i see that Michael is sharpening his knives and trying to set Boris up for a crash,a Michael quote,"we are leaving on the 31st of October no matter what happens"and he did'nt even blush

Michael Gove ,it was he who was involved in proposing the backstop ,and Britain proposed it,and now he says "the backstop must go"and he did not blush

what price is boris's one 1000000/1 shot now?
a million to one yet in our post truth world we were apparently told all along this was a possibility
and brexit voters were fully aware of it when they voted....yeah right.

Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab claimed that he had talked of the possibility of a
no-deal Brexit during the referendum campaign in 2016.

On BBC 5 Live Breakfast, March 2nd 2016, Mr Raab initially said "there would be a free trade agreement".
When pressed on the risk of a WTO Brexit, he repeated that it was unlikely because EU barriers to
trade would "hurt them far more" and added: "That's the worst case scenario - average tariffs of 3.6%."

After days looking through the archives, we have not been able to find any other clear examples of
Mr Raab talking about the possibility of a no-deal exit before the referendum on 23 June 2016.

northanlite there will be a deal , after we have left
That’s how it works

When you and everyone else voted that was the understanding
Of course after the result remainers , people like yourself refused to accept the result , that’s not good

i didn't refuse to accept the result but i do refuse the accept this sort of bullsh1t from government ministers.
whatever you views you should at least accept that they are peddling an utterly false narrative.

What’s the false narrative ? There is no such thing as no deal , never was
We were to leave and then negotiate trade deals , that’s what will happen even now
That’s what was always meant to happen
Everyone knew that when they voted , so stop peddling false narratives

Once you stop using the false narrative of no deal northanlite
Then you might be getting somewhere

well as we know from other threads you are absolutely fine with lies and falsehoods as
long as they are lies and falsehoods told by liars you approve of.

northanlite I’m sorry , you’re the one peddling falsehoods here not myself so don’t preach about others ,
really I’m beginning to think there’s no end to the devious ways of remainers !

Let me say it again , there is no such thing as deal
Stop peddling falsehoods

* no deal

where did i say that? i was talking about the falsehoods now being pushed
by government ministers about the statements they made in the campaign and
subsequently and that of many who voted going along with it. That was all.

i assume a deal of sorts will be done but i suspect it will  look very much
like the one they previously rejected (with added spin so they can claim it isn't)

FWIW i don't think you are being deceitful i just think you have poor comprehension
skills.

northern , why are you worried about what anyone says about no deal

When we have just agreed that there is no such thing as no deal

Put your comprehension skills to that please .....

85 days to go

Boris Johnson said in 2007 that Gordon Brown should not have become Prime Minister after Tony Blair with no public vote.

CURIOUS!

poor Jezza

77 days - tick tock

Corbyn wont get his GE either

We live in a time of unelected PMs, the public cannot be trusted to vote Bozo as the minority PM so it wont go that far

By the rule there should be a General Election

That's all it is, the public wont be asked because its to much of a risk for the elites

You'd next Prime Minister

Corbyn, whispering

I want to see Diane Abbott given a cabinet job, just to see Trumps face when they meet

Not sure why Trump should give a Marxist government the respect of bothering to meet any members of it.

I'm noticing the love-in between Corbyn and the SNP seems to be working, with all the support they seem to be offering him now, every time the Scottish Labour politicians try to crawl out from under the bus Corbyn's clique reverse back over again .

Sturgeon hates him; if Labour want to do anything worthwhile; then i will repeat what i have said for the last 2 years, Jezza has to go. No public will vote for him to be PM, & i don't care how many members Labour have bought. The House won't vote for him to be "interim PM", anyone else would resign (except the nutcase of course) at the pure embarrassment of it all

Sturgeon may or may not hate him but she's sell her signed copy of Braveheart and sacrifice every first born child in Scotland to get another separation referendum, only thing the SNP care about, 24/7/365.

It is very simple

Corbyn is the Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition

If you want to have a chance to thwart No Deal Brexit first you have to vote No Confidence in Her Majesty's Government then you have 14 days to form a Government. If they cannot do that then we are out of the EU after Halloween and that is BJ's best hope. Idiocy and political posturing by lightweights like Swinson and Corbyn.

The Government formed would be in name only. They should seek an extension from the EU and assuming that is given they should set the date for a General Election and the Country can decide is you in or is you ain't.

you seem to be forgetting that Bozo doesn't have to resign; & he won't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3PKE8uTSp8

Resign?

you seem to be forgetting that Bozo doesn't have to resign; & he won't


Does he have a Contract of Employment?

What on earth are you talking about Baph?

He will be replaced. The Queen appoints her Prime Minister

Is that your best defence? He won't resign? or dear oh dear oh dear.

Brexit to return Parliamentry Sovereignty!

Kawlity!

At WD,how many more extensions should the EU give?none imo, UK doing nothing with the ones already granted.time to call it on the EU side and simply just kick them out(which is what the UK wants).

Enough is enough.

WD:

1/ you are assuming he will lose a vote of N/C
2/ you're are assuming Her Maj will get involved

i'm not assuming anything; he will not resign if losing a vote of N/C; therefore no need for Her Maj to get involved

Well they don't have to give any tbh and maybe they are getting fed up

But if they don't extend we have the right to revoke Article 50, which, will not be good.

I think a second referendum is a mistake and the Remain Parties should seek a mandate through a General Election. I am not sure they would win one but if there is a second Referendum and Remain wins the battle is over but the war had just begun.

I am still at a loss by these muppets who think BJ DOESN'T HAVE TO RESIGN! Lunatics!

Aceeeeeeed!

he doesn't. Take a tab & chill

No Baph,

If he doesn't lose a vote of No confidence the net sum game ends there. He will try and wait out Brexit.

Remain will have to resort to measures that will probably be decided in Court and that will not be good for the Country,

Parliament is not The Executive.

Can he create himself dictator for life?

having read plenty (and heard even more)  of legal opinions; the chances of their being a legal precedent are thin to  non-existant

The is no election for Prime Minister.

As soon as he loses ( If ) a vote of No Confidence he is no longer primus inter pares!

If he does not RESIGN the Queen will send for Corbyn to try and form a Government or anybody else who might have the confidence of the House.

The spin about him not resigning is risable. It is not his ball. He cannot take it away!

WD, surely today shows not a chance anyone else will gain the confidence of the house. corbyn not a chance in hell. enough of his own MPs won't vote him. far more than tories who might take the nuclear option of being booted out of the party if they vote for him

as for any of the other options they're absolutely risible

Hungary will vote against any extention the BBC have seen to that

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of
the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in
paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned,
unanimously decides to extend this period.

It is quite clear that "this period" can be extended. But this period quite clearly refers to the two years after the notification. "This period" was originally extended until 12th April.

I can't see anything that allows a further extension, it is only the 2 year period that can be extended and, once it has been extended, there is no longer a 2 year period to extend.

I would contend, therefore, that we left at the end of the 12th April.

Boris wont last for long though lets be honest

Corbyn wont win a vote of no confidence, if he couldn't persuade the fools to vote May down then there's no chance with Johnson in my opinion

Would be funny if Corbyn got in even for a few days

Corbyn does not want a deal and so far he hasn't put a foot wrong

Because he has not moved his feet

Apart from at the momentum 6th form disco.

2/ you're are assuming Her Maj will get involved

I think Liz has enough problems with Phil  , who thinks Churchill is running the Show .

LIZ will not be involved at any Stage  .

Could pop her clogs and Charlie jumps in.

WD, surely today shows not a chance anyone else will gain the confidence of the house. corbyn not a chance in hell. enough of his own MPs won't vote him. far more than tories who might take the nuclear option of being booted out of the party if they vote for him

I think he might win a vote of no confidence but the ability to form a Government is unlikey but there is a lot to play for for Remainer's. If they do nothing we are out!

Expect the unexpected and the Courts to be involved.

The courts have done fine job so far

flip flop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pVKZeSoAp0

After extensive research I found out that there has been no flip flop towards "yes" on the no-deal Brexit in 2019 market.

poor DS edy; as sharp as a turd as usual. No wonder the crime rate has gone up

Well, has it flipped flopped towards "yes"?

This is a thread about "No-Deal" after all.

if you're too thick or lazy (or both) to see or understand what i have posted, then don't expect me to explain it to you

I did understand what you posted. I was merely expressing the opinion that it was misplaced and silly on a thread about no-deal.

Sorry, I should've known that you need absolutely everything spelt out to you in clear terms.

Old pirates yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took i
From the bottomless pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the almighty

10 green bottles

oops, wfm!

"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act"

Well then this PM could make revolutionaries of us all.

and for my lefty friends, including the dummies like edy:

We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it

Let us please keep up a certain level of civility, shall we, lil mate?

I think there is a strong swell certainly in Parliament to stop No deal

I would say this too. We are stepping into the unknown and we do not have a clue what to do. If nothing else we need more time to sort this mess out. Today the BJ and Patel have announced an immigration crackdown. I will not argue the merits of it but we have two months to implement it. They cannot get the procedures ready in time.

I understand the Brexiters demand for us to get out and I understand that but it will not be alright on the night. There will be chaos.

I also think this second Referendum is phoney. The argument is in or out but now as it should be it is about what out means and it is this that we have to come to terms with. It is again my view that we shall not be leaving and a General Election may make the impasse in Westminster worse. The proper debate we should have had before the Referendum is taking place now. It is an unholy mess.

it can't be stopped unless the EU back down. There isn't anything any collaborating dissenter can do to stop no-deal. They can all rant rave & weep, scaremonger & plot, but it cannot be done. Start to take it in

12 pages of nonsense,give sheep grass they will eat,..

EU agreed an extension, that was quite helpful but what did they do with it? have a drawn out leadership
contest then go on holiday for 6 weeks.

the only reason they gave the last extension was to give their "pals" in the House time to concoct some other form of treachery

unfortunately for them Bozo the clown kicked that back down the pitch

"treachery" "collaborating" a bit of a theme emerging here

if the cap fits, et all

Who is treacherous and who is collaborating?

What is treachery and what is collaborating? Kindly elucidate!

Tell me something else what about the 16 million and all the young people who could not vote for Financial Suicide?

I fully don't expect an answer. I challenge you!

or are you a typical BMW?

you're right. You won't get an answer; it's already been posted so open your eyes

as for "financial suicide" grow up

Aug 19, 2019 -- 5:30PM, Baphornet wrote:

it can't be stopped unless the EU back down. There isn't anything any collaborating dissenter can do to stop no-deal. They can all rant rave & weep, scaremonger & plot, but it cannot be done. Start to take it in

Delusional.

It's quite simple, if you have the numbers you can stop no deal.

Baphornet 19 Aug 19 19:02

you're right. You won't get an answer

No surprises there then! Delusional and unable to think for yourself.

Boris says the problem is the EU insisting on hard border in N.Ireland...if they drop that we can leave with a deal???????

Boris says the problem is the EU insisting on hard border in N.Ireland...if they drop that we can leave with a deal???????

Of course he may know the EU will never agree...so is in favour of no deal Brexit

Difficult to know what he intends

No surprises there then! Delusional and unable to think for yourself.

if you're too lazy & thick to look, then suit yourself, i tend not to repeat myself to uncultured numpties. Hell will freeze over before i now reply to you; so my advice is, well besides growing up is to learn some manners. And if you can't do that, best to keep quiet because you know as much about politics as i do about rhythmic gymnastics

So sad to no longer have your invaluable insight analysis and opinion!

Has he took his ball away for good now?

ah Jerry; the witless & useless know all of these forums. Fancy a debate mouse? Go on, enlighten me pick one of your favourite subjects? Midlands ice-cream sellers 1888-1889? Btw anytime you want to put that 5k up you bragged about, i'm here for you pup

WD: read my posts, & stop relying on the Grauniad for copy & pasting your "knowledge"

Too late

You have taken your ball back!

Careful, there may be no ball but you're still taking on a self confessed outstanding wit.

well girls; the day my ball disappears from these forums because of an immature hamster & a Grauniad copier, will be the day my clogs pop. My educating of you 2 has just started

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