Remoaners crowing over Brecon result

+ there was a remoaner electoral pact with Plaid + the Greens also boosting the LDS. being the biggest thing here. Got the lib dems over the line.

Can someone bring up the thread from the euros where the same math was done in reverse.

If there's a message there for anyone, it has to be for Corbyn.

You can't beat a bit of bully and you can't beat a bit of over simplistic electoral analysis

He just won't get the message mouse.

Seems just as relevant as earlier.........

The Lib Dem candidate polled the most votes on the day and won the seat, the bullsh1teer lost - that's how our electoral system works don't you know?

Ah good. Brexit is safe to go ahead then. Cheers.

Been waiting 3 years for it to happen, with that majority there was never any excuse for them not to go ahead.

"with that majority there was never any excuse for them not to go ahead."
Where have you been the last 3 years? Have you been under a rock while the self serving point scoring democracy hating MPs at Westminster have made total dicks of themselves and the country?

Can anyone enlighten me to what the exact point of this thread is please? ie what point is the op trying to make?

Oh lord just when you though the quality of the replies couldn't get any worse.

Are you saying that the remain/leave vote here has altered since the referendum? Is that the point you are trying to make?

Scumbag toffs not welcome in Wales

#NotMyPM

The only thing that the vote tells you is that Tory voters are a disgrace.  A MP gets booted out for fiddling expenses and they still vote for him.

"brexit" wins all the EU elections, "remain" wins all the parliament seats

Try to unravel that little conundrum

You've got a load of "brexiteers" winning seats in the building they want out of

And you've got "remainers" winning seats in the building they want nothing to do with

Laugh a minute this show

The EU elections are basically an opportunity for a low turnout protest vote but are fairly irrelevant as far as future Westminster seats are concerned.

Politicspunter

Pretty much yeah

"brexit" will clean up in the "EU elections" despite us and those elected wanting to leave

Couldn't make it up

the Con vote appears to have gone to the Brexit Party. In fact adding them together, it was previously 50.0% adding Tories + UKIP together, NOW it's 50.3% with "Brexit no matter what" Tories+Brexit+UKIP.



it was 52% at referendum, on a higher turnout

where have all the brexiteers gone?

To the LibDems?

Welsh Labour voters are majority Leave.

If you take that into account then the by election has basically the same result as the referendum.

If the tories had put up a candidate that wasn't a convicted criminal, they might have won it.

But, before remainers crack open the Veuve Clicquot, they ought to bear this in mind: if you take the Lib Dem vote (the only party expressly pledged to remain or hold a new referendum) their share of the vote was 43.5%. Even if you add Labour's (a party with a, let's say, nebulous position) the sum is 48.7%.

By contrast, if you combine the parties pledged to leave without a deal if necessary (the Tories, the Brexit Party and UKIP) the total is 50.3%. 48.7% vs 50.3%. In other words, not a million miles away from how Brecon and Radnorshire voted in the original 2016 referendum. Not much has changed and the mandate is muddied.

there are loads less brexiteers now than in 2016

where have they gone?

Moved house?

gone to the eu ?

Gone in Paul Nuttalls spaceship to be beamed down into the next by election area?

Are not most of the Spiv mps dodgy merchants ?

Stoke and a dodgy landlord

The EU improved all out lives exponentially but i do agree they eventually tried to reach too far.
We should have fought for reform and if that failed then left.
What we are doing now is thoughtless and driven by blind nationalism

I notice the Monster Raving Loony got 1%, so Labour got a whole 4.3% more than them.

Oooooh Jeremy Corbyn .

1% , 5% , or a contrived 50.5% .....none of them got a new mp who can vote
in parliament, ....oops

Thread starter, most relevant post is @ 22.22

Aug 2, 2019 -- 9:38PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

there are loads less brexiteers now than in 2016where have they gone?

Costa Del Sol (Nap)

it doesn't make any difference who from Brecon votes in Parliament. We're still leaving;  all remainers can light their pipes now

22.22 post very relevant then

I'm the Thread Starter, punking Instigator.

for instigator read thread starter

"twisted thread starter"

Fear addicted

woo woo woo woo

The sad thing about getting older is just how many things you drag up remind you "oh they're dead now aren't they" :(

I'd totally forgotten another one the other day. Can't remember who it was now. Just as well, it's a sadness defence mechanism :)

Don't forget that the thread was bullsh1t & irrelevant, in this democracy the Lib Dems WON this time - HTH

Jo's just opened me a cider with her teeth.

Gnasher eh?

The last thing Labour want is a General election Between Brexit and Lib dem Voters they will be lucky to come 3rd

4.3% swing and ..

Oooooh screaming lord sutch!

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 30% (+3)
CON: 29% (+1)
LDEM: 16% (-3)
BREX: 15% (-1)
GRN: 5% (+1)

via @ComRes, 26 - 28 Jul
Chgs. w/ 25 Jul

boris bounce over ?

nah; he has the Labour Party (they really should change that name) to bounce all over come September

A bouncing balloon has to come down sometime.

hopefully right on Emilys noggin; i doubt she'd feel it though. Where there's no sense etc etc

More of a hot air balloon, so should stay up for a while yet.

Aug 2, 2019 -- 8:53PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

You've got a load of "brexiteers" winning seats in the building they want out of And you've got "remainers" winning seats in the building they want nothing to do with Laugh a minute this show

Why do remainers want nothing to do with parliament? It's the leavers talking of shutting it down, not the other way around.