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It's something I think about whenever the subject of slavery crops up.
I hate the idea of treating animals like slaves even those bred for work so the idea of treating people this way is incomprehensible to most of us alive today.
As far as the progression of humanity goes for people of African heritage has the sacrifices made by the enslaved been a positive for the African races strewn around the world? I say this as from what I've read half of the African population still lives in poverty without the basics of food and clean water and about 40% can't read or write add in the various epidemics and it's a tragic scenario.
Has Africa got any further forward than it otherwise would have without the slave trade? Should those born of African descent start looking at the slave trade in a different way because without it there's every chance they'd be still living like Africans are now had their ancestors not been taken? Or were things much better before the evil slave traders raided these countries and natural progression would've put them on par with this side of the world?
Any history buffs know what life was like in the slavery affected countries before the crime took place?
I hate the idea of treating animals like slaves even those bred for work so the idea of treating people this way is incomprehensible to most of us alive today.
As far as the progression of humanity goes for people of African heritage has the sacrifices made by the enslaved been a positive for the African races strewn around the world? I say this as from what I've read half of the African population still lives in poverty without the basics of food and clean water and about 40% can't read or write add in the various epidemics and it's a tragic scenario.
Has Africa got any further forward than it otherwise would have without the slave trade? Should those born of African descent start looking at the slave trade in a different way because without it there's every chance they'd be still living like Africans are now had their ancestors not been taken? Or were things much better before the evil slave traders raided these countries and natural progression would've put them on par with this side of the world?
Any history buffs know what life was like in the slavery affected countries before the crime took place?
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As I said before your opinion is worthless because it is bigoted
Lots of ifs and maybes in history
Without that colonial wealth would Britain have won the first world war?
Now the Chinese have got their dirty mitts into everything in Africa. Not sure that will end well at all
Without that colonial wealth would Britain have won the first world war?
Now the Chinese have got their dirty mitts into everything in Africa. Not sure that will end well at all
Jul 31, 2019 -- 11:08AM, jucel69 wrote:
Lots of ifs and maybes in historyWithout that colonial wealth would Britain have won the first world war?Now the Chinese have got their dirty mitts into everything in Africa. Not sure that will end well at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQV_DKQkT8o
The British Empire stopped the evil that was the thuggies in Indian for example whose murders ran into millions over time before the British arrived
We stopped the religious practice of putting their wives on funeral pyres
We brought civilisation
We stopped the religious practice of putting their wives on funeral pyres
We brought civilisation
education , medicine, infrastructure , roads , harbours airports , the civil service , the rule of law
There is a reason the African population exploded after colonialism
There is a reason the African population exploded after colonialism
When the British were in Indian the local leaders told one of our gererals ( forget his name his statue is in trafalgar sq)
That it was their religious practice and culture to burn their wives on the funeral pyres of dead husbands
The British officer told them well in Britain we have a culture also and it is to hand from the scaffold anyone who attempts this
He told them go ahead ..
That put a stop to it
That it was their religious practice and culture to burn their wives on the funeral pyres of dead husbands
The British officer told them well in Britain we have a culture also and it is to hand from the scaffold anyone who attempts this
He told them go ahead ..
That put a stop to it
It wasn't the British public who made men and women into slaves it was the few rich elite who made them into slaves.These people keep saying it was the British who are to blame 99.9% of the British public lived lives in very poor working and living conditions with no health care and very little wages and little food .They had no slaves and had to work hard with little reward
Blame the few rich elite not the British Joe public
Blame the few rich elite not the British Joe public
General Sir Charles Napier , that’s the guy
You can see his statue in trafalgar sq.
You can see his statue in trafalgar sq.
What they burned the wife on the pyre if the husband died.Serious.
Thought maybe possessions or keepsake but not their wife.How barbaric.
“ be it so . This burning of widows is your custom, prepare the funeral pile. But my nation also has a custom . When men burn women alive we hang them , and confiscate all their property . My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed . Let us all act according to national customs “
Now I don’t know if Charlie thinks the Indians should have been allowed to continue murdering millions of their fellow citizens and wives , on going for centuries , it was their ‘ culture’
Or whether they should have been stopped
Or whether they should have been stopped
Chicken George was my fav slave .I will never forget him taking his new born baby out side when he held it up in his arms and spoke to the star covered sky and said .
One day my son you will be a free man and you too can have a mortgage and an electric and gas and water and community tax and car tax and national insurance and PAYE tax .and car insurance bill etc like all the other free men
One day my son you will be a free man and you too can have a mortgage and an electric and gas and water and community tax and car tax and national insurance and PAYE tax .and car insurance bill etc like all the other free men
I think Charlie’s mind might be too blinded by hatred and anti British sentiment to know
You know fck all about me lfc. Well done on managing to avoid the topic and return to your blinkered view of history as you always do.
Jul 31, 2019 -- 11:26AM, lfc1971 wrote:
General Sir Charles Napier , that’s the guy You can see his statue in trafalgar sq.
Can't even get his history correct. Try Bentinck.
I visited the mandinka tribe in Gambia,and saw the chief .we were told to take bags of toffees for him .we gave them him and he gave them to his tribe to sell to the other visitors .He said that the writer of the book roots and the film makers promised them the world if they helped and permitted them to write about them and make the film .but they got nothing .
It was the best excursion that I ever went on .we stopped at a very small island on the way where they used to have a few cells to hold naughty prisoners and it was very earee and very moving
It was the best excursion that I ever went on .we stopped at a very small island on the way where they used to have a few cells to hold naughty prisoners and it was very earee and very moving
The quote is there Charlie , you haven’t answered
Until you do your opinion is worthless
Go ahead ....
Until you do your opinion is worthless
Go ahead ....
Read those wise and indeed beautiful words
General Sir Charles Napier
Do you think the Indians should have been allowed to continue murdering millions of their own people
Because it was their ‘ culture ‘
What do you think ?
General Sir Charles Napier
Do you think the Indians should have been allowed to continue murdering millions of their own people
Because it was their ‘ culture ‘
What do you think ?
Well it was Britain that put a stop to that , thank god
ps Napier was opposed to slavery also
We put a stop to that also , thank god
ps Napier was opposed to slavery also
We put a stop to that also , thank god
I suggest you read those cool and clear and wise and indeed beautiful words of that British general as well
detraveller , read them again , read them slowly
And try to understand how lucky we were
detraveller , read them again , read them slowly
And try to understand how lucky we were
And how lucky they were also that Napier and the British were there
Centuries of terror brought to an end with those fine and beautiful words
( the millions murdered by the religious fanatics the thugees also brought to an end)
Be thankful
( the millions murdered by the religious fanatics the thugees also brought to an end)
Be thankful
jucel69 thinks so much of the UK he **** off to Thailand to live 
Interestingly perhaps, if you go to Google and type in “When did the slave trade begin?” you’ll be presented with page after page of references to the Transatlantic trade. Just another example of the progressive Bulls**t fountain in full insidious, normalized effect.
Maybe you should learn how to google, try 'history of slavery in Africa' as that is what you are asking as almost anyone with any knowledge of the subject knows that 'the slave trade' is the Atlantic slave trade -simple innit? That search will take you to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
and whilst it is wiki, so comes with the usual caveats, it is a fair rep. I can't be arsed ploughing through pages of this thread as i can guess what most of it says so apologies if already covered but basically they went east across land as opposed to west across the sea. Google 'Mansa Muna 1' who was so rich from (primarily) slavery that on his trip to Mecca he basically bankrupted all the countries he went through from giving away too much gold (it's said he was the last nail in the Egyptian coffin) and something to get you lot esp excited - google 'barbary slave trade'.
Of course while in theory we didn't have slavery in 'advanced' Europe there was serfdom which is basically the same and that was only replaced by industrialisation which can easily be argued was another form of slavery.
Maybe you should learn how to google, try 'history of slavery in Africa' as that is what you are asking as almost anyone with any knowledge of the subject knows that 'the slave trade' is the Atlantic slave trade -simple innit? That search will take you to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
and whilst it is wiki, so comes with the usual caveats, it is a fair rep. I can't be arsed ploughing through pages of this thread as i can guess what most of it says so apologies if already covered but basically they went east across land as opposed to west across the sea. Google 'Mansa Muna 1' who was so rich from (primarily) slavery that on his trip to Mecca he basically bankrupted all the countries he went through from giving away too much gold (it's said he was the last nail in the Egyptian coffin) and something to get you lot esp excited - google 'barbary slave trade'.
Of course while in theory we didn't have slavery in 'advanced' Europe there was serfdom which is basically the same and that was only replaced by industrialisation which can easily be argued was another form of slavery.
Africans had slaves or serfs themselves which I know until today but hardly surprising:
African societies practiced human bondage long before the Atlantic slave trade began. Famine or fear of stronger enemies might force one tribe to ask another for help and give themselves in bondage in exchange for assistance. Similar to the European serf system, those seeking protection or relief from starvation would become the servants of those who provided relief. Debt might also be worked off through some form of servitude. Furthermore, prisoners of war between different African societies oftentimes became enslaved.
Typically, these servants became a part of the extended tribal family. There is some evidence of chattel slavery, in which people were treated as personal property, in the Nile Valley. It appears there was a slave-trade route through the Sahara that brought sub-Saharan Africans to Rome, a global center of slavery.
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/precontact-and-early-colonial-era/before-contact/a/african-societies-and-the-beginning-of-the-atlantic-slave-trade
African societies practiced human bondage long before the Atlantic slave trade began. Famine or fear of stronger enemies might force one tribe to ask another for help and give themselves in bondage in exchange for assistance. Similar to the European serf system, those seeking protection or relief from starvation would become the servants of those who provided relief. Debt might also be worked off through some form of servitude. Furthermore, prisoners of war between different African societies oftentimes became enslaved.
Typically, these servants became a part of the extended tribal family. There is some evidence of chattel slavery, in which people were treated as personal property, in the Nile Valley. It appears there was a slave-trade route through the Sahara that brought sub-Saharan Africans to Rome, a global center of slavery.
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/precontact-and-early-colonial-era/before-contact/a/african-societies-and-the-beginning-of-the-atlantic-slave-trade
One thing is for sure, trying to judge historical events using modern day values is impossible.
The word racism wasn't even a word til the 20th century.
Just seen this on the BBC website, which just goes to show what powerful people thought of Africans even as late as the 70s
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49177034
The word racism wasn't even a word til the 20th century.
Just seen this on the BBC website, which just goes to show what powerful people thought of Africans even as late as the 70s
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49177034
Denzil
You can use whatever weasel words you want but throughout the thread you've been belittling Africa. I noticed you didn't comment on the links I gave. Why is that?
You can use whatever weasel words you want but throughout the thread you've been belittling Africa. I noticed you didn't comment on the links I gave. Why is that?
Charlie why the aggressive stance?
I hadn't read your links from earlier as delegating too much time on here isn't beneficial to me,since you are clearly the instigator with this post can you show where I've belittled Africa especially as my posts are based on proven retrievable fact.
Weasel words come on you're better than that I can remember some proper discussion with you in the past where we both provided cogent evidence no need to be like this on a subject because it involves non-whites,that in my book is racist you are better than that surely.
I hadn't read your links from earlier as delegating too much time on here isn't beneficial to me,since you are clearly the instigator with this post can you show where I've belittled Africa especially as my posts are based on proven retrievable fact.
Weasel words come on you're better than that I can remember some proper discussion with you in the past where we both provided cogent evidence no need to be like this on a subject because it involves non-whites,that in my book is racist you are better than that surely.
Fwiw I'm learning quite a bit from this thread it was a good choice of subject especially when the racially sensitive leave their toys in the pram.
The Britush Empire was the greatest force for good in the history of the world lfc1971
Well you believe this I know it, it is not for me to disillusion you.
The reason Britain and other more technological developed countries invaded countries who
were admittedly a little behind us, was to MAKE MONEY!, nothing else.
We did it for our sake, not theirs,
So Charlie is essentially right.
Just my own opinion
Well you believe this I know it, it is not for me to disillusion you.
The reason Britain and other more technological developed countries invaded countries who
were admittedly a little behind us, was to MAKE MONEY!, nothing else.
We did it for our sake, not theirs,
So Charlie is essentially right.
Just my own opinion
Yes money rules the world ebul but that doesn’t explain all the good things Britain did , so doubtless a little bit of love here and there as well
We did gain out of it Ebul and it was our objective but the countries involved still benefitted from us being there.
The only people who can answer this are the indigenous people themselves.
We cannot.
We seem to have stopped building Empires, but multi national companies, still exploit countries.
Also a lot depends on which countries built their Empires.
The Belgian Congo saw appalling treatment of the indigenous people. Sadly even though the Belgians are long gone
the Congo is still in a poor state, Multi Nationals seem to be exploiting it for it's mineral wealth.
I think Britain tried to teach various countries our values, but were they appropriate?
Also these countries were given no choice.
Perhaps Britain did some good I dont know?
But it is honest if we admit our Empire was to benefit us not them
We cannot.
We seem to have stopped building Empires, but multi national companies, still exploit countries.
Also a lot depends on which countries built their Empires.
The Belgian Congo saw appalling treatment of the indigenous people. Sadly even though the Belgians are long gone
the Congo is still in a poor state, Multi Nationals seem to be exploiting it for it's mineral wealth.
I think Britain tried to teach various countries our values, but were they appropriate?
Also these countries were given no choice.
Perhaps Britain did some good I dont know?
But it is honest if we admit our Empire was to benefit us not them
No different from any other Empire Ebul and not something I feel any guilt over.
Go back to the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire. Both were savage but countries benefitted in the long term.
We shouldn't judge them by todays standards.
Go back to the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire. Both were savage but countries benefitted in the long term.
We shouldn't judge them by todays standards.
No you should not feel guilt over it Akabula..
It is quite natural that countries do create Empires, or has been in the past, because they do it by war.
Since we disapprove of war now, except in defence, we should not be seeing many more Empires being created.
But it is only the people of the countries who have become part of another countries Empire
who can answer this question, although they may not agree on this themselves
It is quite natural that countries do create Empires, or has been in the past, because they do it by war.
Since we disapprove of war now, except in defence, we should not be seeing many more Empires being created.
But it is only the people of the countries who have become part of another countries Empire
who can answer this question, although they may not agree on this themselves
Some Empires are created by countries voluntarily amalgamating, one could see the EU as this.
It is then the people of the amalgamated countries who can give an opinion, like voting for BREXIT
It is then the people of the amalgamated countries who can give an opinion, like voting for BREXIT
I’m sorry e bul if the Indians want to put their wives on the fire and burn them alive and the Africans want to put each other in the pot and eat them and we tell them they can’t and stop them , as we did
Then we are right and they are wrong no matter how much they plead that it is their ‘ culture’
I’m not sure what Charlie’s view on the matter is , he’s conflicted by his hatred and anti British outlook and can’t answer
disgraceful really
Then we are right and they are wrong no matter how much they plead that it is their ‘ culture’
I’m not sure what Charlie’s view on the matter is , he’s conflicted by his hatred and anti British outlook and can’t answer
disgraceful really
10 Atrocities Committed by the British Empire that They Would Like to Erase from History Books
https://historycollection.co/10-atrocities-committed-by-the-british-empire-that-they-would-like-to-erase-from-history-books/
10 Evil Crimes Of The British Empire
https://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/
Crimes Against Humanity: The British Empire
https://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-the-british-empire/5597781
Disgraceful really.
https://historycollection.co/10-atrocities-committed-by-the-british-empire-that-they-would-like-to-erase-from-history-books/
10 Evil Crimes Of The British Empire
https://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/
Crimes Against Humanity: The British Empire
https://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-the-british-empire/5597781
Disgraceful really.
We are not trying to erase those things from history Charlie , the Indian famine at a time when Britain was fighting the most evil of foes in Nazi gernany .. to save both India and the civilised world
The Mau Mau uprising the most savage and merciless of foes who came in the dead of night to murder innocent men women and children
The massacre in India ( mercifully something that shocked Britain itself )after the Indian mutiny savage in its murder of innocent men women and children ...I could go
But Britain won the Second World War and saved India , and the rest of the world and brought peace and civilisation to every country in the Empire overall
Now you haven’t answered , do you think the Indians should have been allowed to continue burning alive their wives on the fire , or the thugees allowed to continue to murder millions as they had done for centuries etc and the Africans to put each other in their ‘culture’
Or were we right to stop them , as we did
Go ahead .....
The Mau Mau uprising the most savage and merciless of foes who came in the dead of night to murder innocent men women and children
The massacre in India ( mercifully something that shocked Britain itself )after the Indian mutiny savage in its murder of innocent men women and children ...I could go
But Britain won the Second World War and saved India , and the rest of the world and brought peace and civilisation to every country in the Empire overall
Now you haven’t answered , do you think the Indians should have been allowed to continue burning alive their wives on the fire , or the thugees allowed to continue to murder millions as they had done for centuries etc and the Africans to put each other in their ‘culture’
Or were we right to stop them , as we did
Go ahead .....
Well of course you don’t have to answer , you gave avoided answering for a long time
That tells us quite a lot right there , disgraceful really
Sometimes the question is more important than the answer
But let’s see ?
That tells us quite a lot right there , disgraceful really
Sometimes the question is more important than the answer
But let’s see ?
Just another area where Britain was way ahead of the game, having abolished the burning of heretics in 1677.
Forgive me , do you think that the British were right to stop those barbaric practices , on going for centuries not individual mistakes but part of the ‘ cukture’
Or not ?
Or not ?
You are a loony who denies what really happened. It's about time you took the Union jack out of arse and looked at the facts not your made up fairy stories. You are the most blinkered fool by far I have ever come across.
... as a reminder of what was done to India by the British, who conquered one of the richest countries in the world (27 per cent of global GDP in 1700) and reduced it, over two centuries of loot and exploitation, to one of the poorest, most diseased and most illiterate countries on Earth by the time they left in 1947.
I bet you're so proud of that.
... as a reminder of what was done to India by the British, who conquered one of the richest countries in the world (27 per cent of global GDP in 1700) and reduced it, over two centuries of loot and exploitation, to one of the poorest, most diseased and most illiterate countries on Earth by the time they left in 1947.
I bet you're so proud of that.
The British conquest of India,” Durant writes, “was the invasion and destruction of a high civilization by a trading company utterly without scruple or principle […] bribing and murdering, annexing and stealing, and beginning that career of illegal and legal plunder.” Britain profited enormously from what Durant calls the “rape of a continent,” so much so that on the eve of independence, the vast majority of Indians were living in poverty. It was, as Durant put it, “the most sordid and criminal exploitation of one nation by another in all recorded history.”
Makes you proud I suppose.
Makes you proud I suppose.
Charlie you haven’t answered , do you think the British were right to stop the Indians burning their wives on the funeral pyre , and destroying the thugee religious cult responsible for the murder of millions if Indians
It’s a quite simple question , go ahead
Because until you do your opinion is worth nothing because it is blinded by hatred and bigotry
Now let’s see , go ahead ....
It’s a quite simple question , go ahead
Because until you do your opinion is worth nothing because it is blinded by hatred and bigotry
Now let’s see , go ahead ....
His point was simple. India had enough food supplies to feed the starving - why had the government instead let them die? While Orissans perished in droves in 1866, Mr Naoroji noted that India had actually exported over 200m pounds of rice to Britain. He discovered a similar pattern of mass exportation during other famine years. "Good God," Mr Naoroji declared, "when will this end?"
It did not end anytime soon. Famines recurred in 1869 and 1874. Between 1876 and 1878, during the Madras famine, anywhere from four to five million people perished after the viceroy, Lord Lytton, adopted a hands-off approach similar to that employed in Ireland and Orissa.
By 1901, Romesh Chunder Dutt, another leading nationalist, enumerated 10 mass famines since the 1860s, setting the total death toll at a whopping 15 million. Indians were now so poor - and the government so indifferent in its response - that, he stated, "every year of drought was a year of famine."
Yeah blame it on the war.
It did not end anytime soon. Famines recurred in 1869 and 1874. Between 1876 and 1878, during the Madras famine, anywhere from four to five million people perished after the viceroy, Lord Lytton, adopted a hands-off approach similar to that employed in Ireland and Orissa.
By 1901, Romesh Chunder Dutt, another leading nationalist, enumerated 10 mass famines since the 1860s, setting the total death toll at a whopping 15 million. Indians were now so poor - and the government so indifferent in its response - that, he stated, "every year of drought was a year of famine."
Yeah blame it on the war.
Sati or suttee[note 1] is a largely historical Hindu funeral practice in India in which a widow sacrifices herself by sitting atop her deceased husband's funeral pyre.[2][3][4][5]
It was suicide not murder. It was probably a good idea to stop it.
Now then what about the rest of the stuff or are you not man enough to address those things without giving a biased and obviously incorrect view?
It was suicide not murder. It was probably a good idea to stop it.
Now then what about the rest of the stuff or are you not man enough to address those things without giving a biased and obviously incorrect view?
lfc1971 is mentally ill. The biggest wind-up merchant on here. He doesn't believe the nonsense he comes out with.
The sad reality is he has nothing better to do with his pathetic life than spout rubbish on here 24/7.
He deserves pity.
The sad reality is he has nothing better to do with his pathetic life than spout rubbish on here 24/7.
He deserves pity.
All of that ( if true ) is not good ( ps the distribution of food sent by Britain and America was hampered by the tensions and i cooperation between the local Muslims and Hindus ) , slavery was not good , it had been going on for centuries , we abolished it and used our military power to impose that and bring in trade and investment
Now about that question Charlie , go ahead ...
Now about that question Charlie , go ahead ...
You are right Mr Eboue I shan't waste any more time on him.
No answer from Charlie , that tells you all you need to know
Disgraceful really
Disgraceful really
You see when someone like that , and cry baby Eboue start to preach
Something within me starts to laugh , and jeer
Maybe I shouldn’t do that , but no answer from Charlie
Something within me starts to laugh , and jeer
Maybe I shouldn’t do that , but no answer from Charlie
Charlie says it was ‘ probsbky’ a good idea to stop wives being burnt alive on their husbands funeral pyre , lol
That shows you the twisted mentality of someone like that right there
That shows you the twisted mentality of someone like that right there
When someone gives an answer like that I would not trust them on anything whatsoever
do blinded and and bigoted and dishonest is the answer
do blinded and and bigoted and dishonest is the answer
Weasel words , and disgraceful and disgusting words
Unlike the clear and cool and wide and indeed beautiful words of British general in India
All that time ago
Unlike the clear and cool and wide and indeed beautiful words of British general in India
All that time ago
Oh well , I think we have heard enough of Charlie’s opinions and views
They would be laughable in their badness, if not so serious in what it reveals
They would be laughable in their badness, if not so serious in what it reveals
Disgraceful really , almost unbelievable
Here it is again , these are Charlie’s words
“ it was suicide not murder. It was ‘probably’ a good idea to stop it “
The burning of woman on the funeral pyre
That tells us all we need to know about Charlie , we don’t need to see anything else
We already see too much
Here it is again , these are Charlie’s words
“ it was suicide not murder. It was ‘probably’ a good idea to stop it “
The burning of woman on the funeral pyre
That tells us all we need to know about Charlie , we don’t need to see anything else
We already see too much
lfc1971
Would you like another country to invade this country Britain, and completely change our way of life.
If anyone objected they were killed.
I suspect you would not, well most people would not like it.
Even if in hindsight we may have benefitted in a few things.
This is how people of our wonderful Empire felt.
They were glad to take back control when they were offered, when we dissolved our own Empire.
Would you like another country to invade this country Britain, and completely change our way of life.
If anyone objected they were killed.
I suspect you would not, well most people would not like it.
Even if in hindsight we may have benefitted in a few things.
This is how people of our wonderful Empire felt.
They were glad to take back control when they were offered, when we dissolved our own Empire.
Countries prefer to decide their own destinies, they don't want other countries deciding it for them.
One reason we voted to leave the EU, although the EU did not actually occupy us.
One reason we voted to leave the EU, although the EU did not actually occupy us.
Britain disbanded it's Empire after WW11, because the USA, another country you admire lfc1971, demanded we did.
The USA felt it contradicted Human Rights.
The USA felt it contradicted Human Rights.
uble, your comments won't make sense to lfc. I remember once I mentioned to him that over a million people had died in Iraq in the 2003 war and his reply was, the Iraqis should be thankful for it because this gives them a chance to rebuild like Germany and Japan.
The guy probably does drugs which is sometimes evident from the diarrhea of his posts.
The guy probably does drugs which is sometimes evident from the diarrhea of his posts.
I keep telling lfc he was born a hundred years too late. He's still not out of that colonial mindset, even though the capital of that colonial empire is now almost completely controlled by the colonial subjects of those times.
Aug 1, 2019 -- 11:51AM, UBLE/REGY wrote:
Countries prefer to decide their own destinies, they don't want other countries deciding it for them.One reason we voted to leave the EU, although the EU did not actually occupy us.
I've told him this too.
His response is some countries should be allowed to decide their own destiny, and some not.
I hope you can hear from him so you don't have to take my word for it. But you should have seen lfc in 2017. He and moisok almost know the Koran by heart by now, such was their hatred of the arabs and africans.
I agree detraveller
There is only one lfc1971, he is definitely not going to change.
There is only one lfc1971, he is definitely not going to change.
detraveller you shouldn’t tell lies about what I said , that’s not good
Now you have just posted that I said the Iraqis should be thankful that over a million Iraqis had died , now I didn’t say that
So don’t do that again , thanks
So don’t do that again , thanks
What I said was the Iraqis should have been thankful that a murderous dictator was overthrown
The same as the Germans with Hitler
That’s what I said
The same as the Germans with Hitler
That’s what I said
Aug 1, 2019 -- 12:17PM, lfc1971 wrote:
What I said was the Iraqis should have been thankful that a murderous dictator was overthrown The same as the Germans with Hitler That’s what I said
no you didnt.
but its ok.
You’re going to have to prove that detraveller , or apologise
Just for the record:
Cultural Imperialism or Rescue? The British and Suttee
http://www.victorianweb.org/history/empire/india/suttee.html
Now I've pointed out how lfc works will he comment on this or answer the questions I asked above?
Cultural Imperialism or Rescue? The British and Suttee
http://www.victorianweb.org/history/empire/india/suttee.html
Now I've pointed out how lfc works will he comment on this or answer the questions I asked above?
Charlie your credibility on any given subject can no longer be trusted given your shocking and repulsive views on the ‘ culture’ of burning woman alive on funeral pyres , so shocking as to be almost unbelievable
I think you should be silent for a while and reflect on what you said , by being silent you can avoid causing the least possible damage
Have to go and play golf
I think you should be silent for a while and reflect on what you said , by being silent you can avoid causing the least possible damage
Have to go and play golf
Aug 1, 2019 -- 1:43PM, Charlie wrote:
Or most likely just keep attacking me. Exciting times.
1.01 landed 
Well I suppose we should be grateful someone thinks well of the British Empire..
The final judgement has to be made by the countries themselves....do they think they benefitted form being part of our Empire
Oh yes, something you posted earlier lfc1971...you said Australia was empty of people when we claimed it for our Empire
Not true...it was occupied by the Aborigini people....although our Empire Builders rather ignored them as well.
The final judgement has to be made by the countries themselves....do they think they benefitted form being part of our Empire
Oh yes, something you posted earlier lfc1971...you said Australia was empty of people when we claimed it for our Empire
Not true...it was occupied by the Aborigini people....although our Empire Builders rather ignored them as well.
There’s no point reading words ebul , and detraveller ......
If you don’t understand words
If you don’t understand words
It's quite hilarious how some posts have been removed. Keep deleting them please. One of them was how to play lfc. He undoubtedly will ask a question and repeat it ad nauseam. Just keep ignoring him and ask him questions. He'll ignore your questions and keep repeating his.
His question will be trivial so ignore it and ask him more important questions. He will ignore them. After a while just answer his trivial question. He wont like your answer though. Then ask him to answer your questions. He wont.
His question will be trivial so ignore it and ask him more important questions. He will ignore them. After a while just answer his trivial question. He wont like your answer though. Then ask him to answer your questions. He wont.
Nobody likes to be a slave...we all prefer to make our own choices
There some people from this country who did genuinely try to improve the lives of the people in the countries
we occupied...not sure it was too successful
Our primary reason for creating our Empire was always to make money for ourselves, this has to be admitted
There some people from this country who did genuinely try to improve the lives of the people in the countries
we occupied...not sure it was too successful
Our primary reason for creating our Empire was always to make money for ourselves, this has to be admitted
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