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SontaranStratagem
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Report themightymac July 3, 2019 3:54 PM BST
Kids should be allowed to grow up and enjoy their childhoods without being taught all this rubbish.
Report akabula July 3, 2019 5:05 PM BST
F*cking childrens minds up with stuff they are too young to deal with.
Creating a problem where one didn't exist.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 5:06 PM BST
Exactly DELIBERATELY creating the problems.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 5:25 PM BST
They are not teaching anything about gay sex btw if they were the should be removing their kids from classes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48457650
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 5:26 PM BST
*parents
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 6:47 PM BST
The religious types have their own agenda whilst the non religious types are more worried about age appropriation,teaching someone children that someone can have 2 daddies or mammies or 1 etc. is about as far as it should go for Primary School kids don't think they go much further but coudn't find the curriculum when searching.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 6:48 PM BST
*teaching children
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 6:49 PM BST
In hindsight we knew nowt at my school we learnt most of it from 1 kid who had everyone in tears laughing daily.
Report akabula July 3, 2019 6:53 PM BST
Just because Muslims are against this shouldn't detract from the fact that primary is far too young to be bringing this chyte to our kids.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:02 PM BST
There has to be some kind of answer to a child who asks 'why has laura got two mammies?' can't just say you're too young for this chyte.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:14 PM BST
Drip drip drip effect

Play the "we've listened" bs line

Give a few months and ramp it up with the whole LGBT stuff

Parents need to shut this school down now and send a message, we are not accepting this stuff in our schools

But will they?
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:15 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:02PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:


There has to be some kind of answer to a child who asks 'why has laura got two mammies?' can't just say you're too young for this chyte.


She hasn't got two mammies, she's got one and the father isn't there for whatever reason is needed, whether they had IVF or the father got kicked out

Report akabula July 3, 2019 7:17 PM BST
Denzil that's for parents nobody else.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:21 PM BST
You can't say that because you can't control what children are going to say at any time,it's not the days of beating your kids and frightening them into don't speak until spoken to life isn't like that now kids know far more than people think.
Report akabula July 3, 2019 7:23 PM BST
I don't think its ever been like Denzil, certainly not in the last 70 years.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:24 PM BST
Kids always asked questions

But its the way they are answered that's changed. we were suppose to ****foot around it all a few years ago, now were are told to patronise them and try to poison their minds at the same time
Report Coachbuster July 3, 2019 7:25 PM BST
"We have said we don't want children in reception to be shown books with same sex relationships. Its confusing for them." Laugh
Report Shanelee1966 July 3, 2019 7:25 PM BST
The agenda is everywhere and being pushed at every opportunity. Here is how i see it.
It is designed mainly for the Muslims, aimed at the younger ones, a way of making them see a more Western way of life as opposed to traditional Islamic ways because we all know a time will come where there will be a major clash. It`s started now.
Report Coachbuster July 3, 2019 7:26 PM BST
you have to teach kids the reality or they will grow up more confused than ever , shirley ?
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 7:26 PM BST
Don't let them after the internet until they're 21.
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 7:27 PM BST
*Don't let them have
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:27 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:26PM, mouse muldoon wrote:


Don't let them after the internet until they're 21.


You must be starting a magazine business.

Report Shanelee1966 July 3, 2019 7:28 PM BST
Who`s Shirley?
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:28 PM BST
Free Handy Andies with each purchase
Report Knight Commander July 3, 2019 7:30 PM BST
Previous generations had no formal sex education whatsoever but they still managed to figure it out. Otterwise we wouldn't exist Wink
Report Knight Commander July 3, 2019 7:32 PM BST
Janet and Jane went up the hill,
to fetch a pail of water.
Jane came down with half-a-crown,
but not for fetching water.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:32 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:29PM, mouse muldoon wrote:


Jul  3, 2019 --  7:27PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:Jul  3, 2019 --  7:26PM, mouse muldoon wrote:Don't let them after the internet until they're 21.You must be starting a magazine business.First title to be published is called "Janet and Jane"


How diverse of you

Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:32 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:26PM, Coachbuster wrote:


you have to teach kids the reality or they will grow up more confused than ever , shirley ?


Or just let them learn for themselves?

When it comes to that they are going to be hit like a brick once puberty hits and girls will no longer be smelly and all that jazz

Its best to let them learn it all themselves and not mess with their heads when they are 6 year olds ffs

Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 7:34 PM BST
They aren't teaching them about sex only pointing out that people have different family set ups.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:35 PM BST
Some handle it better than others and that's what friends are for right?

Lads tend to play it differently, girls deal with it in their little groups

Eventually a lad plucks up the courage to ask a girl out and gets knocked back? what then? he goes back to his mates for a slaughter.. sorry some reassurance

Its all part of life, learning and maturing 

Now you've got people who want to play god ffs
Report Coachbuster July 3, 2019 7:35 PM BST
exactly denzil   ..the idea being that kids grow up to have a broader understanding (in feery)
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:36 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:34PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:


They aren't teaching them about sex only pointing out that people have different family set ups.


They don't need to have someone patronise them ?

They will all make their own minds up, some will take the p*** obviously but that's group think and that's never going to go away no matter how hard we try

We are tribal by nature and anything different is jumped on

Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 7:37 PM BST
this is people trying to tell them how to think and react

Its quite pathetic really
Report Coachbuster July 3, 2019 7:39 PM BST
tribal ?   we're not Red Indians  Laugh
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 7:40 PM BST
We are tribal by nature and anything different is jumped on

this is people trying to tell them how to think and react


The elders of the tribe?
Report akabula July 3, 2019 7:49 PM BST
Kids getting all type of rubbish pushed down their throats.
This LGBT stuff and self identifying gender. Why?
In the past we had little issue with the latter but now kids as young as 8 being encouraged.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 3, 2019 7:59 PM BST
weird how some people are upset about kids being taught basic truths yet not a peep about being told about some fantasy guy in the sky.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 8:00 PM BST
Its no longer the bible they are being taught

This is a new religion

The religion of man
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 8:02 PM BST
Take me to your leader.
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 8:02 PM BST
On second thoughts, that would be too scary.
Report akabula July 3, 2019 8:29 PM BST
Put a beggar on Horseback and he will ride into town.
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 8:36 PM BST
We have the responsibility to deliver a curriculum that enables our children to understand the benefits that exist in a society where diversity and difference are celebrated. In addition to this, we need our children to want to be part of that society- we have to sell that to them.  That desire may not come naturally by itself.

What is ‘No Outsiders’ about?
•Teaching children to respect and accept difference and diversity. •Using the Equality Act 2010 (British law) as a solid foundation. •Taking a pro-active approach to bullying. •Reducing potential for radicalisation (Prevent). •Preparing children for life in modern Britain. •Teaching British values.

What is the Equality Act? What does the word ‘equality’ mean? The principle of equality is that everyone should be treated fairly, without suffering prejudice or discrimination.
The Equality Act was made British law in 2010. It protects you from various forms of discrimination. There are 9 characteristics within the Equality Act.

Protected Characteristics under the Equality Act 2010 • Age • Sexual orientation • Gender identity • Marriage and Civil Partnership • Pregnancy and Maternity • Race • Religion • Gender • Disability

How is it taught?
•35 picture books (5 per year group from EYFS to year 6). •Picture books deal with the characteristics within the Equality Act. •Each characteristic is taught in context with British law. •Clear progression through key stages. •Creates and develops a whole school ethos.
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 8:38 PM BST
Can someone please explain to me what is harmful about this being within the school curriculum ?
Explain using the framework that drives the lessons, not a framework you have developed for yourself.
Report akabula July 3, 2019 8:49 PM BST
Very simple. it should be left until they are at secondary school and of a better age to understand such stuff.
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 9:03 PM BST
Are you an expert on the mental capacity of children ?
Me neither, but I'm guessing that the people responsible for putting together school curriculum's are.

You're currently engaged in a thread on the politics forum with pa lapsy regarding sectarianism.
When do you think people become infected with the twisted beliefs that fuel this ugly hatred ?

Does that only start when they reach secondary school ?
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 9:04 PM BST
Are you an expert on the mental capacity of children ?

He's been on this forum since 2008.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:05 PM BST
Why are people so determined to put this stuff in kids heads?
Report mouse muldoon July 3, 2019 9:06 PM BST
Or that they'd burn in hell for it?
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 9:08 PM BST
Have a proper look at what they are actually being taught, not what you think they are being taught.
The material is based around the Equalities Act, a piece of legislation, the law of the land.

Seriously, have a look at this

http://www.thesynaptictrust.org/files/No_Outsiders.pdf
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:12 PM BST
"equalities act"?

Oh the "act" they put into law in 2010? it really isn't the law of the land, angoose

Its an act not law, they can't bs as much as they like with saying its written into law but it really isn't
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:13 PM BST
Any act isn't law of the land

Its something made up by politicians so they can continue to enslave and dumb down the populace
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:16 PM BST
If we have law of the land why do we need "acts"

?
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 9:28 PM BST
A draft act, known as a bill, is processed.
Once approved, it becomes an act of parliament and is incorporated in to law.

Let's not quibble over the technicalities.

Kids are being taught about the need to treat various groups in society in a equitable basis.
Quite why any parent would object to this, I struggle to understand.

I have a 6 year old and a 4 year old.
Since they could talk, they have been taught the principles of equality, this will continue at school.

Again, I struggle to understand why anyone would object to this.
Report DenzilPenberthy July 3, 2019 9:32 PM BST
Think some are worried in case any of their family are turned and told that being gay is genetic.
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:36 PM BST
An act that none of us get any say over?

Its not allowed to be incorporated into law until we get a vote on it or shouldn't be

Democracy. Remember?
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 9:43 PM BST
We have a representative democracy, you vote for your MP, and they represent their constituents in parliament.
Report Shanelee1966 July 3, 2019 9:44 PM BST
Why are people so determined to put this stuff in kids heads?

I told you earlier, re-read it.............
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:46 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 9:43PM, Angoose wrote:


We have a representative democracy, you vote for your MP, and they represent their constituents in parliament.


That's an awful system as we know people are corrupted when in positions of power

Its time we took everything that is going into law to a public vote, make it a 6 month thing where we vote on a collection of "acts" and we all vote on it as a country

Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:48 PM BST
No more people aggressively pitching their s*** either, you ask us rather than tell us is the message
Report Angoose July 3, 2019 9:49 PM BST
Are you serious ?
Look at the chaos caused by one single referendum Sad
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2019 9:52 PM BST
That's the media causing the chaos

Once the vote has been made we all accept it and move on

The media are no longer allowed to talk about it after, its done and over with, they will now be officially only reporting not giving their own beliefs etc, if they do try to influence a vote they are sacked and tossed onto the streets for life
Report UBLE/REGY July 4, 2019 12:19 AM BST
Perhaps they could devise animal characters to represent the LBTQ community, or would that just confuse the kids even more?
mouse Muldoon

What animals would you suggest mouseLaugh...I will to think about that one
Report UBLE/REGY July 4, 2019 12:21 AM BST
Parents cannot completely control their kid's schooling...

There are some things all children need to be taught...
Report UBLE/REGY July 4, 2019 12:22 AM BST
As long as it is age appropriate...secondary schools better for sex education, when children reach puberty
Report mouse muldoon July 4, 2019 12:27 AM BST
What animals would you suggest mouse

Zippy, George and Bungle
Report UBLE/REGY July 4, 2019 12:34 AM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh brilliant mouse
Report DenzilPenberthy May 5, 2020 2:15 PM BST

Jul 3, 2019 -- 7:34PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:


They aren't teaching them about sex only pointing out that people have different family set ups.


I WAS WRONG
They are forcing transgender thinking on Primary school children from September 2020.
The muslim fathers were misrepresented in the media that I watched
The ongoing narrative since the early 2000s to smash heteronormativity in PRIMARY SCHOOLS is real google Ellie Barnes
I have seen a video of a transgender man in drag dancing like Miley Cyrus (which is censored on her video) to NURSERY SCHOOL CHILDREN in a library
I now have seen some of the books they are MAKING children read and find it disgusting
Below are real books from schools if this post gets removed why are these books being read by Primary school children?

I advise clicking the links as the book descriptions are too much to type

Mr Seahorse - A stunning picure book about Mr Seahorse and other MALE MOTHERS
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/631931.Mister_Seahorse

Jacob's New Dress - deliberate confusion
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jacobs-New-Dress-Sarah-Hoffman/dp/0807563730

Bill's New Frock - Bill wakes up to find he's turned into a girl
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1037891.Bill_s_New_Frock

I Am Jazz - Jazz was transgender and the doctor said SHE WAS BORN THAT WAY
https://www.amazon.co.uk/I-Am-Jazz-Jessica-Herthel/dp/0803741073

Remeber these books and others of their ilk are BEING FORCED UPON PRIMARY SCHOOL CHILDREN THROUGH A DELIBERATE AGENDA TO SMASH HETERONORMATIVITY

There is no way anyone can refute this it is happening and is rightly a deep concern to parents who know yet are being silenced and not listened to.
This is a deliberate agenda forcing confusion and mental abuse on small children which will and have been manifesting itself in years to come/
The mental health issues related to sexual issues are off the scale yet never acknowledged,the many paediatric doctors who have resigned or found themselves unable to continue due to these issues are being forced to keep quiet.
This issue needs more publicity immediately

Report DenzilPenberthy May 5, 2020 6:40 PM BST
bump
Report woundedknee May 5, 2020 7:25 PM BST
FILTH books
Report John.W.Henry. May 6, 2020 9:38 AM BST
https://twitter.com/CharriseLane/status/1257618710921129986

No one can convince me that this is the way to educate children. EVER.
Report John.W.Henry. May 6, 2020 9:39 AM BST
we are in serious trouble tbh
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 6, 2020 9:45 AM BST
transgender Kid in my 8 years class got to say kids cope with stuff Better than adults
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 6, 2020 9:54 AM BST
More things to worry about than transgender bollox like online influence trying safeguard from that
Report aaronh May 6, 2020 11:28 AM BST

May 6, 2020 -- 9:45AM, FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK wrote:


transgender Kid in my 8 years class got to say kids cope with stuff Better than adults


Kids aren't as dumb as people think

If adults, like many in this thread, are too immature to teach kids its a failure of parenting   that they are unable to explain that some people are different

Report edy May 6, 2020 11:38 AM BST
Who says they are unable to? Shilling sheeple like Denzil are perfectly able to explain that people who don't fit the narrow schematics of their masters are satanic abominations.
Report edy May 6, 2020 11:50 AM BST
Hey Aaron, can you believe that brilliant free thinking researcher Denzil, who is only ever posting provable truth, is throwing a hissy fit about a book with married male sea horses (to wimmin sea osses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) that educates children that there are animals out there where the males primarily take care of the offsprings?
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 6, 2020 11:53 AM BST
Only gripe I’ve got with my kids school
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 6, 2020 11:55 AM BST
is the fact the teachers ain’t doing few online lessons to give us a break but there ringing me up every week for there tick box excises
Report lux May 6, 2020 12:30 PM BST
It's like an increasingly warped and frantic version of Whac-A-Mole, the harder they push this "diversity" filth the more contradictions and conflicts emerge, fleetingly hammered back into place by the "Diversity is a strength" padded mantra hammer. Except, clearly, by any observable metric diversity is not a strength at all, on the contrary it is clearly a massive weakness.
Report edy May 6, 2020 12:36 PM BST
yeah, so stop having diverting thoughts, quisling.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 6, 2020 1:24 PM BST
Mental health issues relating to gender disphoria have been skyrocketing in recent years something rarely mentioned.
Falsely trying to create confused feelings at early ages t "smash heteronormativity" is wrong and as others have pointed out is AGENDA DRIVEN AND NOT IN THE INTEREST OF CHILDREN.
Alcohol issues,drug addiction,psychological abuse,suicides,suicide attempts,fluctuating sexualities and continued confusion,high sexual partner numbers,personality disorders,clinical depression,feelings of unattraciveness are commonplace amongst trans people and those with uncertain sexuality
The above symptoms are taken from titles of published studies these are tip of the iceberg and slightly dated in some cases (due to censoring or not performing such studies) the numbers are likely more shocking now imo.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 6, 2020 1:26 PM BST
The burdening of our health system and other emergency services who have to deal with the above is also forgotten on such issues.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 6, 2020 1:34 PM BST
Now there's even acknowledgements of 'over diagnosis' and 'overuse of hormone treatment' coming from doctors who have been forced to resign for not appeasing to the 'medical scandal'
Report DenzilPenberthy May 6, 2020 2:08 PM BST
https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-over-diagnosing-children-having-transgender-t...
Report woundedknee May 6, 2020 2:13 PM BST
Freak Scene .. by.. Dinosaur Jnr .. 1988.... What a mess CoolWink
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